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February 15, 2016, 01:52:44 AM
 #461

Found a link between Humbertin19_ and lokos1913a
That's a surprise. I know humber was trouble (know him from some other places, even before he joined bct), but I didn't take he was that much trouble.
That's the second time I see a scammer "selling" his account to Operatr, claiming to give up all his alt, and then returning/continuing with yet another.

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February 15, 2016, 02:05:33 AM
 #462

Another connection between two accounts found
ausbit and bitkilo both posted the address 1J6TkR36eUuxvwTDMiVDTLfyVfMJHsozYA

Ausbit staked it and signed a message with it here (quoted, verified and permalinked)
bitkilo posted it in a giveaway thread here

archive of bitkilo posting


I think bitkilo has some positive trust (i cant really know as my trust list is highly modified) and is currently attempting to offer escrow services,
There is also a twist, bitkilo left positive trust on ausbit's page saying they did a deal and all went cool, keep in mind that bitkilo is in default trust, bitkilo is using his position in DT to manipulate his alt's trust score, i shall be opening a scam accusation thread in a few minutes

Also, can someone snap a screenshot of the trust rating left please
trust page cant be archived and i cant take a screenshot from this pc

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February 15, 2016, 02:10:58 AM
Last edit: February 15, 2016, 02:55:58 AM by Lutpin
 #463

I think bitkilo has some positive trust (i cant really know as my trust list is highly modified) and is currently attempting to offer escrow services
That's correct. He got one fully aged trust from spartan82.

There is also a twist, bitkilo left positive trust on ausbit's page saying they did a deal and all went cool
That is correct aswell. Date of the feedback is 2015-12-29, there is no reference linked.

keep in mind that bitkilo is in default trust, bitkilo is using his position in DT to manipulate his alt's trust score
Here you go off. bitkilo is not on DT2 or above. It still isn't cool leaving positive feedback to your alts.

Also, can someone snap a screenshot of the trust rating left please
trust page cant be archived and i cant take a screenshot from this pc
Screenshot can be found here -> https://i.imgur.com/sNraQmb.png



bitkilo signed a message claiming to own the address here, while taking a loan to it:

Hi QS,
Address:
17eDS4zwUvd3whq6ep46NRN4gVegQ8JuFM
Message:
I bitkilo am taking an additional loan of $79 USD from QS with total repayment of $252.50 USD by 14/01/2015.
I also control address 1J6TkR36eUuxvwTDMiVDTLfyVfMJHsozYA for future reference.
Signature:
G922+bc0t2JAKhLWfWjTT47VhCXsT6+1EbWOx+WfbU2kd87t7hpW8zM9R1LqaEoLO8xJtHWblBb4xCiM9q0aYao=
As usual please send funds to my address:
1Js5djRnuFozdu79KAqAoSi2LZHEreAVsV
Regards: BTCitkilo.



bitkilo previously used the address 17eDS4zwUvd3whq6ep46NRN4gVegQ8JuFM while being part of the 777 campaign.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654009.msg8161393#msg8161393 (Search for the address in the code box, as it's pretty long).

And ofc also ausbit used this address, he signed and staked it
I dont see why the th last thread would get locked but hey if they do that then so be it, im just trying to help the community.
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is ausbit from bitcointalk.ord
date is 03/08/2015
I own this btc address
BTC Address: 17eDS4zwUvd3whq6ep46NRN4gVegQ8JuFM

----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE----
G9M5/cKA8zkIbv1X0Yz9GcbZjDoCEq/jlzkpQkySGLFpIJUbIpW9PnooLeixcUEkuXyD/cEdxUx3bNVGcETDims=
----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE----



ausbit uses the address 1JqhHA5YRbSGhqtrMMjSNF3T2vj25cyLY8 that is connected to the addresses 1MzanHD42LRWzQKYm5mtQ5JJGgMsjhJ2PD, 1CGpDLK7uBp6jbzL9J2aa4LMqGDhpiNY5m and 18AEV6fmCbGtQsJLWyisiaTwJFK2rwMzdW throught the transactions 3033f1dd85bb77b519db61207bb51a9fab0b3837b7a5934a759af1c0d9a01207 (Linking 1CGpD and 18AEV) and d65cd7b17e146f0e4fd9298bbdf632e4529ef06a3f4894813dda16ca89126cd2 (Linking 1CGpD, 1JqhH and 1Mzan).

ausbit posting the 1JqhH address:

I am going away from this campaign, there must be a new slot open.
I just applied, can you check please
UID: 390217 showing no free slots found.
BTC address: 1JqhHA5YRbSGhqtrMMjSNF3T2vj25cyLY8
Since there is a free slot, please join me in, i would love to be in Bitmixer campaign.
BigBoy89 is posting the 18AEV address here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1269463.msg13276186#msg13276186
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Hey, I am joining your Campaign
Name: BigBoy89
Post count: 1055 (Including this)
Position: Hero Member
Bitcoin address: 18AEV6fmCbGtQsJLWyisiaTwJFK2rwMzdW
Profile UID: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=248564
FastDice username: BigBoyBitcoins
greBit is posting the 1CGpD address here:
*Pay Per Post:
*Name: GreBit
*Post count:824
*Rank: Hero Member
*Bitcoin Address: 1CGpDLK7uBp6jbzL9J2aa4LMqGDhpiNY5m
I would like to join your campaign, please let me know about your acceptance and accordingly I will wear your signature and I have sent a PM to you.
HarHarHar9965 is posting the 1Mzan address here (aswell as on his profile):
Hi zengryt,
I would like to join in your signature campaign, Please kindly let me know about spot availability for me.Smiley
*Fixedrate or Pay Per Post: Pay Per Post
*Name: HarHarHar9965
*Post count: 1043
*Rank: Hero Member
*Bitcoin Address: 1MzanHD42LRWzQKYm5mtQ5JJGgMsjhJ2PD
Regards,
HarHarHar9965...
And now it's getting interesting. HarHarHar9965 has got negative feedback from Quickseller for this reason:
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Participating in trust farming, and faking trades. I would consider this person to be untrustworthy

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February 15, 2016, 02:54:02 AM
 #464

I think bitkilo has some positive trust (i cant really know as my trust list is highly modified) and is currently attempting to offer escrow services
That's correct. He got one fully aged trust from spartan82.

There is also a twist, bitkilo left positive trust on ausbit's page saying they did a deal and all went cool
That is correct aswell. Date of the feedback is 2015-12-29, there is no reference linked.

keep in mind that bitkilo is in default trust, bitkilo is using his position in DT to manipulate his alt's trust score
Here you go off. bitkilo is not on DT2 or above. It still isn't cool leaving positive feedback to your alts.


Also, can someone snap a screenshot of the trust rating left please
trust page cant be archived and i cant take a screenshot from this pc
Screenshot can be found here -> https://i.imgur.com/sNraQmb.png



bitkilo signed a message claiming to own the address here, while taking a loan to it:

Hi QS,
Address:
17eDS4zwUvd3whq6ep46NRN4gVegQ8JuFM
Message:
I bitkilo am taking an additional loan of $79 USD from QS with total repayment of $252.50 USD by 14/01/2015.
I also control address 1J6TkR36eUuxvwTDMiVDTLfyVfMJHsozYA for future reference.
Signature:
G922+bc0t2JAKhLWfWjTT47VhCXsT6+1EbWOx+WfbU2kd87t7hpW8zM9R1LqaEoLO8xJtHWblBb4xCiM9q0aYao=
As usual please send funds to my address:
1Js5djRnuFozdu79KAqAoSi2LZHEreAVsV
Regards: BTCitkilo.



ausbit uses the address 1JqhHA5YRbSGhqtrMMjSNF3T2vj25cyLY8 that is connected to the addresses 1MzanHD42LRWzQKYm5mtQ5JJGgMsjhJ2PD, 1CGpDLK7uBp6jbzL9J2aa4LMqGDhpiNY5m and 18AEV6fmCbGtQsJLWyisiaTwJFK2rwMzdW throught the transactions 3033f1dd85bb77b519db61207bb51a9fab0b3837b7a5934a759af1c0d9a01207 (Linking 1CGpD and 18AEV) and d65cd7b17e146f0e4fd9298bbdf632e4529ef06a3f4894813dda16ca89126cd2 (Linking 1CGpD, 1JqhH and 1Mzan).

ausbit posting the 1JqhH address:

I am going away from this campaign, there must be a new slot open.
I just applied, can you check please
UID: 390217 showing no free slots found.
BTC address: 1JqhHA5YRbSGhqtrMMjSNF3T2vj25cyLY8
Since there is a free slot, please join me in, i would love to be in Bitmixer campaign.
BigBoy89 is posting the 18AEV address here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1269463.msg13276186#msg13276186
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Hey, I am joining your Campaign
Name: BigBoy89
Post count: 1055 (Including this)
Position: Hero Member
Bitcoin address: 18AEV6fmCbGtQsJLWyisiaTwJFK2rwMzdW
Profile UID: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=248564
FastDice username: BigBoyBitcoins
greBit is posting the 1CGpD address here:
*Pay Per Post:
*Name: GreBit
*Post count:824
*Rank: Hero Member
*Bitcoin Address: 1CGpDLK7uBp6jbzL9J2aa4LMqGDhpiNY5m
I would like to join your campaign, please let me know about your acceptance and accordingly I will wear your signature and I have sent a PM to you.
HarHarHar9965 is posting the 1Mzan address here (aswell as on his profile):
Hi zengryt,
I would like to join in your signature campaign, Please kindly let me know about spot availability for me.Smiley
*Fixedrate or Pay Per Post: Pay Per Post
*Name: HarHarHar9965
*Post count: 1043
*Rank: Hero Member
*Bitcoin Address: 1MzanHD42LRWzQKYm5mtQ5JJGgMsjhJ2PD
Regards,
HarHarHar9965...
And now it's getting interesting. HarHarHar9965 has got negative feedback from Quickseller for this reason:
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Participating in trust farming, and faking trades. I would consider this person to be untrustworthy
ausbit account sold (escrowed by me) and not belongs to bitkilo( I will check exactly date)

edit: 17/12/2015

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February 15, 2016, 03:02:56 AM
 #465

ausbit account sold (escrowed by me) and not belongs to bitkilo( I will check exactly date)
edit: 17/12/2015
So he left trust to an account he just had sold, and previously owned himself, that's exactly as shady as leaving trust to yourself.
Even more considering the new group of accounts the current owner seems to possess.
Involving HarHarHar9965, who was connected by Quickseller with CEG5952, xarca, poeEDgar and others.

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February 15, 2016, 03:07:16 AM
 #466

ausbit account sold (escrowed by me) and not belongs to bitkilo( I will check exactly date)
edit: 17/12/2015
So he left trust to an account he just had sold, and previously owned himself, that's exactly as shady as leaving trust to yourself.
Even more considering the new group of accounts the current owner seems to possess.
Involving HarHarHar9965, who was connected by Quickseller with CEG5952, xarca, poeEDgar and others.
From my point of view, he did a trade with someone and subsequently left positive trust for the person he traded with because everything went smoothly.

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February 15, 2016, 03:10:54 AM
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ausbit account sold (escrowed by me) and not belongs to bitkilo( I will check exactly date)
edit: 17/12/2015
So he left trust to an account he just had sold, and previously owned himself, that's exactly as shady as leaving trust to yourself.
Even more considering the new group of accounts the current owner seems to possess.
Involving HarHarHar9965, who was connected by Quickseller with CEG5952, xarca, poeEDgar and others.
he trade with other person and I not think  It is therefore not shady.


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February 15, 2016, 03:14:12 AM
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From my point of view, he did a trade with someone and subsequently left positive trust for the person he traded with because everything went smoothly.
Let's say it's safe to asume that this deal is the sale of the account.
So you sell your alt account to someone and leave him feedback over this, to the account you owned yourself days before.
However, a neutral should sufficient.

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February 15, 2016, 03:20:13 AM
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From my point of view, he did a trade with someone and subsequently left positive trust for the person he traded with because everything went smoothly.
Let's say it's safe to asume that this deal is the sale of the account.
So you sell your alt account to someone and leave him feedback over this, to the account you owned yourself days before.
I am personally stingy in leaving positive trust, so this is not something I would do, especially considering that would likely be a deal in which I am receiving BTC first.

I would find this similar to doing a currency exchange deal with a newbie, everything going smoothly and then leaving positive trust because of the smooth deal.

I would also say that it is not safe to assume that the trust is for the sale of the account because of the time difference. According to zazarb the deal was on Dec 17, however according to the screenshot in the thread in meta(that will likely get moved to reputation), the trust was left ~2 weeks later on the 29th

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you edited your post to include
However, a neutral should sufficient.
This may or may not be true. If you feel this way then you should not take his trust ratings into consideration. Leaving trust for a trade that did not take place is something that I would consider to be scammy. Leaving trust for a trade that I feel that trust should not have been left for is something that would cause me to exclude them from my trust network

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February 15, 2016, 03:48:41 AM
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I would also say that it is not safe to assume that the trust is for the sale of the account because of the time difference. According to zazarb the deal was on Dec 17, however according to the screenshot in the thread in meta(that will likely get moved to reputation), the trust was left ~2 weeks later on the 29th

Alright, let me rephrase it. I personally got the feeling that this trust was leaved over the sale of the account (checked both accounts posts in the 2 weeks from the sale to the feedback).
But since I can't bring up any more than my gut feeling for this I came to the conclusion posted earlier:

However, a neutral should sufficient.

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February 15, 2016, 05:37:19 AM
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Alt of moon of life should get negative trust too.

#Mexxer sometimes abusing the trust system Ok fYn gave a negative just for asking a loan in private wow



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February 15, 2016, 05:39:18 AM
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#Mexxer sometimes abusing the trust system Ok fYn gave a negative just for asking a loan in private wow
Sure, good to lend from a buddy of yours even better that you are an alt of a scammer
I just got this pm :


Will you able to loan me .08 till i buy bitcoin? can payback .1 btc . i will pay back in 3 days.

i sold $100 worth of bitcoin today but need some now.

here is the my address :

https://blockchain.info/address/1MVrh1gCb8So4QGtQiHQnhk8ixqXAWakgi

you can see i have too many big transaction.

Wtf is this i am your bank?
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#Mexxer sometimes abusing the trust system Ok fYn gave a negative just for asking a loan in private wow
Sure, good to lend from a buddy of yours even better that you are an alt of a scammer
I just got this pm :


Will you able to loan me .08 till i buy bitcoin? can payback .1 btc . i will pay back in 3 days.

i sold $100 worth of bitcoin today but need some now.

here is the my address :

https://blockchain.info/address/1MVrh1gCb8So4QGtQiHQnhk8ixqXAWakgi

you can see i have too many big transaction.

Wtf is this i am your bank?

Dude..once come to swc poker i will show you how many people trust me.

you are better than that nothing to say  Wink

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February 15, 2016, 08:38:36 AM
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nothing to say  Wink
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Thank you for working with this user, as an outsider looking in on this thread it seems pretty abusive.... good for teaching a lesson yes. But it seems that lesson has been made and the user is well aware of it. I hope others take ur lead and give him a 2nd chance.

If I can be so bold as to ask you a question:

Why did you give both Alt's glowing trust for what appears to be the same transaction (given that the reference is identical)?

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x_Molotov -8: -3 / +0   2016-02-15   0.10000000   Reference   User ran an investment/betting operation on our forum www.hashclub.org . User was very professional even though he took a loss on his program he ensured everyone was paid with their said bonus as well as return on investment. Stand up user and growing Smiley mu user name is apmapm12 on the forum if u want to ask me about this user.

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nothing to say  Wink
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the one from the lunar kingdom ?  Cheesy

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February 15, 2016, 10:38:42 AM
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Thank you for working with this user, as an outsider looking in on this thread it seems pretty abusive.... good for teaching a lesson yes. But it seems that lesson has been made and the user is well aware of it. I hope others take ur lead and give him a 2nd chance.
If I can be so bold as to ask you a question:
Why did you give both Alt's glowing trust for what appears to be the same transaction (given that the reference is identical)?
The even better question is, why did both alts give him trust for this same transaction. When people start giving and getting trust from all their alts for a single transaction,
I don't want to see the mess that comes up when SulphurXX gets involved.

I also don't know how MonetaCoin can claim a risked amount of 0.1BTC
As far as I understand the situation, he was holding 0.1BTC of xavTrot6/x_Molotov in escrow, resulting in a 0 risk on his side.

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February 15, 2016, 10:54:17 AM
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I would also say that it is not safe to assume that the trust is for the sale of the account because of the time difference. According to zazarb the deal was on Dec 17, however according to the screenshot in the thread in meta(that will likely get moved to reputation), the trust was left ~2 weeks later on the 29th

Alright, let me rephrase it. I personally got the feeling that this trust was leaved over the sale of the account (checked both accounts posts in the 2 weeks from the sale to the feedback).
But since I can't bring up any more than my gut feeling for this I came to the conclusion posted earlier:

However, a neutral should sufficient.
I do not know reason for this feedback, but you free to ask bitkilo, maybe he
provide sufficient refference to you,
my suggestion- let speak, and the other side before accusing.

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February 15, 2016, 11:07:26 AM
 #480

Thank you for working with this user, as an outsider looking in on this thread it seems pretty abusive.... good for teaching a lesson yes. But it seems that lesson has been made and the user is well aware of it. I hope others take ur lead and give him a 2nd chance.
If I can be so bold as to ask you a question:
Why did you give both Alt's glowing trust for what appears to be the same transaction (given that the reference is identical)?
The even better question is, why did both alts give him trust for this same transaction. When people start giving and getting trust from all their alts for a single transaction,
I don't want to see the mess that comes up when SulphurXX gets involved.

I also don't know how MonetaCoin can claim a risked amount of 0.1BTC
As far as I understand the situation, he was holding 0.1BTC of xavTrot6/x_Molotov in escrow, resulting in a 0 risk on his side.

I gave the trust rating on both accounts as u both have stated several times on here that he is the same person.

As to the risk statement, I my self may not have had any risk or problem per say. But every user who took part in his program did take the risk of loosing their funds, regardless of escrow or not.
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