$10,000usd/btc or bust

[Dafar]

Did everyone forget the dream?? I keep hearing people talk about $250---$270---$300---$500.. fuck that! We've crushed those numbers before. It's pretty sad we've come so low, but you guys need to remember the dream of $10k/btc. If that dream isn't realized then btc has failed as far as I'm concerned

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maybe people have realized that imagination alone won't get us anywhere.

not reaching $10k doesn't mean that bitcoin have failed. heck, most people won't consider btc failed even if it never reach that amount.

[jacee]

Maybe some of these people starts to think of the short erm price change in bitcoins and not the long term change it will soon be in. Ya know, the constant change of up and down price of btc makes peoplw think that the price will only in a certain amount in which the price is playing.

[dre1982]

maybe people have realized that imagination alone won't get us anywhere.

not reaching $10k doesn't mean that bitcoin have failed. heck, most people won't consider btc failed even if it never reach that amount.

What does everyone has with that $10k? They already start up a currency from nothing. It's already a success. Just let see what the future brings, but don't pin yourself at a high value.

[randy8777]

there is no point in thinking about $10,000 per bitcoin right now as we can't even manage to break through the $300 price level. my targets are more in the range of $500-$700 for the comming years.

[kwukduck]

It already has failed for many reasons.
The protocol doesn't even scale anywhere near the adoption level that would be required to get to 10k usd

[ssmc2]

Awww wook! A cute wittle duck. 

[Pursuer]

Did everyone forget the dream?? I keep hearing people talk about $250---$270---$300---$500.. fuck that! We've crushed those numbers before. It's pretty sad we've come so low, but you guys need to remember the dream of $10k/btc. If that dream isn't realized then btc has failed as far as I'm concerned

I had never had such a dream of 10,000 USD / 1 BTC

to be honest I have always found it ridiculous. and it was mostly FUD and hype if you ask me. you cant just assume bitcoin goes to such a high value without any valid reason.

but at the same time this does not mean that bitcoin has failed or anything. staying at 230-250 USD for this long proves that there is still enough buy support that can keep the price up. and this can even grow higher.

[maartenhaha]

another fiat slave out to destroy bitcoin by dribble and noncense?

yeay!

[solid12345]

to be honest I have always found it ridiculous. and it was mostly FUD and hype if you ask me. you cant just assume bitcoin goes to such a high value without any valid reason.

It's not wholly unreasonable when you consider companies like Twitter which produce practically nothing are valued at $30 billion dollars or Facebook at 90 billion.

[Foxpup]

It already has failed for many reasons.
The protocol doesn't even scale anywhere near the adoption level that would be required to get to 10k usd

I wouldn't have believed it, but the Opposite Oracle has spoken. This rally is real and will take us to $10,000. Everyone, get your cheap coins while they last!

[OmegaStarScream]

I blame BitcoinXT for making panic for awhile , even if it didn't hurt Bitcoin price that much ... Honestly I don't see it as a dream but a long term reality . we will get there .. eventually .
Also we can't lie to ourselves , Silk road did indeed play a big role on bitcoin price and now it's down .

[Dafar]

It already has failed for many reasons.
The protocol doesn't even scale anywhere near the adoption level that would be required to get to 10k usd

lol classic kwukduck, how many btc did you lose buddy?

to be honest I have always found it ridiculous. and it was mostly FUD and hype if you ask me. you cant just assume bitcoin goes to such a high value without any valid reason.

It's not wholly unreasonable when you consider companies like Twitter which produce practically nothing are valued at $30 billion dollars or Facebook at 90 billion.

And the btc market cap would be much higher too if it had the number of people as facebook and twitter do

[btcxyzzz]

Silk road did indeed play a big role on bitcoin price and now it's down .

Visit /r/Darknetmarkets, you'll see around 20 replacements for Silk Road. Still yes, it played big role in the early stages.

[OmegaStarScream]

Silk road did indeed play a big role on bitcoin price and now it's down .

Visit /r/Darknetmarkets, you'll see around 20 replacements for Silk Road. Still yes, it played big role in the early stages.

I wasn't there but last time I made a topic about it and people said that Bitcoin dropped when Silk road got shutdown so I guess these darknet websites aren't doing the same and the good job that Silk road was doing .

[gentlemand]

I wasn't there but last time I made a topic about it and people said that Bitcoin dropped when Silk road got shutdown so I guess these darknet websites aren't doing the same and the good job that Silk road was doing .

Alpaca socks aside, Silk Road was pretty much the only genuine usage of Bitcoin back in the day. These days it's rather more diverse. No idea what current darknet market turnovers are but they may be considerably higher and buried in the noise.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

10,000 USD bitcoins are still very much possible imo. It won't happen in the short term but I definitely think 10k is possible.

We won't see 1 million USD bitcoins in our lifetime but I think 10k is 100% possible, we may have to patiently HODL for maybe even 10+ years so sit back & relax.

[Mickeyb]

Did everyone forget the dream?? I keep hearing people talk about $250---$270---$300---$500.. fuck that! We've crushed those numbers before. It's pretty sad we've come so low, but you guys need to remember the dream of $10k/btc. If that dream isn't realized then btc has failed as far as I'm concerned

I think that this long lasting down trend has gotten to all of us. Which is quite normal when you think about it. It will be almost 2 years how it started.

Nevertheless, I still dream and dream big. No doubt in my mind doing that we will see one day a $10,000 coins. But to get to those $10,000, we also must pass that $270, $300, $500, etc..

[crairezx20]

10k dollars Its posible but in this following year maybe wil rise only $400-$500. dont worry we just wait for the near future. Its like a year 2010 bitcoin price is 0.08$ now the price  of bitcoin is 249.5$. So Do not worry we hold the future..

[smith coins]

When you want to speculate try to be more realistic.
Why should bitcoin price reach 10,000 USD ? I don't see any factor that can trigger this!!!
Btw, reaching next year $500 would be good as it is the double price of bitcoin now.
Maybe it can reach 10k usd but really really need decades to reach it.

[Dilla]

When you want to speculate try to be more realistic.
Why should bitcoin price reach 10,000 USD ? I don't see any factor that can trigger this!!!
Btw, reaching next year $500 would be good as it is the double price of bitcoin now.
Maybe it can reach 10k usd but really really need decades to reach it.

Technology is advancing at an exponential rate. Look where we came from decades ago. 5 years from now our world will be much different. 10k Bitcoin will not take decades if it is adopted. It will exponentially grow also.

[EsBitcoin.org]

10k $ is a realistic price, we could see it in 3-4 years

[smith coins]

When you want to speculate try to be more realistic.
Why should bitcoin price reach 10,000 USD ? I don't see any factor that can trigger this!!!
Btw, reaching next year $500 would be good as it is the double price of bitcoin now.
Maybe it can reach 10k usd but really really need decades to reach it.

Technology is advancing at an exponential rate. Look where we came from decades ago. 5 years from now our world will be much different. 10k Bitcoin will not take decades if it is adopted. It will exponentially grow also.

If bitcoin reaches the price of 1,000 USD from now then this could be called success.
I know that everything in the technology area is advancing and new innovative things came out.
But the price of 10k USD is really high to believe, i think it can take up to 10 years.

[SmoothCurves]

[Dilla]

When you want to speculate try to be more realistic.
Why should bitcoin price reach 10,000 USD ? I don't see any factor that can trigger this!!!
Btw, reaching next year $500 would be good as it is the double price of bitcoin now.
Maybe it can reach 10k usd but really really need decades to reach it.

Technology is advancing at an exponential rate. Look where we came from decades ago. 5 years from now our world will be much different. 10k Bitcoin will not take decades if it is adopted. It will exponentially grow also.

If bitcoin reaches the price of 1,000 USD from now then this could be called success.
I know that everything in the technology area is advancing and new innovative things came out.
But the price of 10k USD is really high to believe, i think it can take up to 10 years.

Bitcoin hitting 10k-15k USD per coin. That would be half of Google's market cap, a third of Apple's and 3% of the money invested in Gold.
Think about it, Bitcoin is TINY right now. It will not take a decade to reach.

[Hugroll]

you have to realize that for bitcoin to go to $10000 people have to be willing to buy at that price, since i dont think people will be willing to pay that high of a price to get some coins i dont see it happening anytime soon

[Dafar]

When you want to speculate try to be more realistic.
Why should bitcoin price reach 10,000 USD ? I don't see any factor that can trigger this!!!
Btw, reaching next year $500 would be good as it is the double price of bitcoin now.
Maybe it can reach 10k usd but really really need decades to reach it.

Wtf are you talking about and what are you basing this off? What about adoption and bigger market cap and limited supply as your factor?

When was this created? Anyone can draw lines after the fact, doesn't mean jack, id be more impressed if those lines were drawn before the current chart

you have to realize that for bitcoin to go to $10000 people have to be willing to buy at that price, since i dont think people will be willing to pay that high of a price to get some coins i dont see it happening anytime soon

Lol ok....

No they dont

[gentlemand]

you have to realize that for bitcoin to go to $10000 people have to be willing to buy at that price, since i dont think people will be willing to pay that high of a price to get some coins i dont see it happening anytime soon

Your activity level is that high and that's the best reasoning you've got?

Unless one coin is an unfeasible buy for most then it's not going to be a success.

A $10,000 coin would still only be worth 1/50th of gold's market cap. People have been known to buy less than one ounce of gold. If Bitcoin can do the same and more for them they might just buy less than a whole coin too. That's not a crime.  

[crazywack]

you have to realize that for bitcoin to go to $10000 people have to be willing to buy at that price, since i dont think people will be willing to pay that high of a price to get some coins i dont see it happening anytime soon

Your activity level is that high and that's the best reasoning you've got?

Unless one coin is an unfeasible buy for most then it's not going to be a success.

A $10,000 coin would still only be worth 1/50th of gold's market cap. People have been known to buy less than one ounce of gold. If Bitcoin can do the same and more for them they might just buy less than a whole coin too. That's not a crime.  

Won't the winkolvos twins be selling 1/8 or 1/10 BTC ETF's? I think the market could hold with that.

[gentlemand]

Won't the winkolvos twins be selling 1/8 or 1/10 BTC ETF's? I think the market could hold with that.

I believe it'll be a tenth. GBTC is a tenth as well. Nothing stopping them from reducing that either.

[pooya87]

Did everyone forget the dream?? I keep hearing people talk about $250---$270---$300---$500.. fuck that! We've crushed those numbers before. It's pretty sad we've come so low, but you guys need to remember the dream of $10k/btc. If that dream isn't realized then btc has failed as far as I'm concerned

10K USD was, as you put it , just a dream. i am not saying it is not a possibility in the far future. but it is not and easy thing to reach.
nowadays, reaching $300 and so on, seems like a dream but it is not an impossible dream and we can easily go up to even $1000 again but to get to 10K bitcoin needs a huge happening and mass adoption. like being used side by side with PayPal.

[WhatTheGox]

Did everyone forget the dream?? I keep hearing people talk about $250---$270---$300---$500.. fuck that! We've crushed those numbers before. It's pretty sad we've come so low, but you guys need to remember the dream of $10k/btc. If that dream isn't realized then btc has failed as far as I'm concerned

We just need extra time to make that dream happen, i cant see it on the next bubble at the halving but maybe the year after or the 2020 halving would be good for 10k.  Im hodling for way more than $500 etc if that makes you feel better.

[thejaytiesto]

It's not that difficult... think for a moment. Everything gets sum up with supply and demand. The supply of Bitcoin is very limited. Bitcoins keep dissapeparing therefore the supply keeps shrinking. Bitcoin keeps having halvings. Bitcoin keeps getting mentioned more and more in the mainstream media lately (even Satoshi got an award in the Economist)... i mean it's not that hard, to the math. Anyone not seeing the potential is insane. 10K is actually nothing in the long term.

[Pk880058]

i think we will be busted before the bitcoin reaches $10k/btc.
Its very very far from the actual price of bitcoins, so i can not dream that much big regarding bitcoins.
I am still waiting for bitcoins to reach $1k like in 2013.

[NeuroticFish]

10k $ is a realistic price, we could see it in 3-4 years

I'd say more like 5-10 years, but maybe I'm pessimistic.
But this will happen only if the devs start doing some more work. The latest attacks on the network should have given them all the clues what to improve first.

[RealPhotoshoper]

you need dream + act alongside. just dreaming will not work . act by doing bitcoin activity as much as you can. so it will help bitcoin development.

[Denker]

Already $334 of the way there. Just $9,666 to go

Easy going buddy!
Wait another 5 years and we might have reached that goal.
And if not in 5 we will make it in 10 years.Still pretty good timeframe I think.

[Chef Ramsay]

fart

Easy going buddy!
Wait another 5 years and we might have reached that goal.
And if not in 5 we will make it in 10 years.Still pretty good timeframe I think.

Appropriate troll name for exactly what they bring to the discussion round table here: a musty stench that emanates from the netherworld of freaks and other degenerates/miscreants. What a sad existence they must lead.

[talks_cheep]

This is how it's going to go down:

2015 - 2016: ATH will be 500, normal range 300 - 400
2016 - 2017: ATH will be 2500, normal range 500 - 1000
2017 - 2018: ATH will be 1500, normal range 500 - 1000
2018 - 2019: ATH will be 1000, normal range 200 - 500
2019 - 2020: ATH will be 5000, normal range 1000 - 1500
2020 - 2021: ATH will be 2500, normal range 500 - 1000
2021 - 2022: ATH will be 1500, normal range 500 - 1000
2022 - 2023: ATH will be 1000, normal range 200 -500
2023 - 2024: ATH will be 500, normal range 300 - 400

The cycle will repeat ad nauseam.

[Chef Ramsay]

^So the nutsack is bullish up to a certain point (notice the ath doesn't get breached) and then lol. The worse case bs is spouted on the hind end which isn't even of value nor considered at this point. The probable outcome in the 20s is immeasurable wealth that crotch-peeper won't have apart of considering the low class mind that is being offered here. Sell the slob and hold the treasure.

[gogxmagog]

10k is possible even 40k per coin, but it depends on market depth, widespread adoption, ubiquity of acceptance. If btc had 10% of visa's market share... Sure each one would be worth thousands.
Unfortunately we are nowhere near that and it doesn't look like we will any time soon.
There just aren't any real world use cases where btc has proven better than cc. Except the illegal stuff, and we all know illegal activity is unsustainable.
If you could pay your rent, bills, groceries in btc, be paid in btc and survive using only Bitcoin as easy as you can with cash then we might be getting somewhere. And I don't mean use Bitcoin to buy hurt cards or go through some other 3rd party. When everyone everywhere accepts Bitcoin the same as they accept other payment methods we will see tens of thousands valuation. Until then it is only going to be speculation and arguments

[dodgrad]

$10k is possible in 10 years when bitcoin is widly adopted. You can buy anyting with bitcoin at that time.

[Sorasliya]

If the price is not at $10k in 10 years, it means the experiment with bitcoin has failed. So the price will be 0.

[CryptoBjorn]

Well I am not that old Bitcoiner but yes that is the dream but is just a huge dream. I am happy with 1000 dollar is just a lot of money.
That only will hapen 20- 30 years in my opinion.

[bitcoin-hunter]

Did everyone forget the dream?? I keep hearing people talk about $250---$270---$300---$500.. fuck that! We've crushed those numbers before. It's pretty sad we've come so low, but you guys need to remember the dream of $10k/btc. If that dream isn't realized then btc has failed as far as I'm concerned

Well I think no one have forgoten about reaching 10K is just a high number you need to be atleast realistic.

Ans yes we want that to happend but is also good that Bitcoin will increased. little by little. Maybe one day it will but for now this is Bitcoin price so yeah.

[bitlancr]

I'm still waiting for that day to come. Of course I want 1 btc to be worth 10.000usd

It won't happen over night though. Gotta have some patience with this.

[randy8777]

I'm still waiting for that day to come. Of course I want 1 btc to be worth 10.000usd

It won't happen over night though. Gotta have some patience with this.

some patience? you mean more like 10 or 15 years of patience. the price will definitely go up, but to reach $10,000 we'll need a lot more new money comming into bitcoin.

[OrientA]

I'm still waiting for that day to come. Of course I want 1 btc to be worth 10.000usd

It won't happen over night though. Gotta have some patience with this.

In order for bitcoin to be $10,000, we need bitcoin to be used by at least 1% of world population, or 70 million people. These people on average will have 0.2 bitcoins between them. So that is about $2,000 worth of bitcoin for each of them. This is not a big amount for those people.

[AtheistAKASaneBrain]

If the price is not at $10k in 10 years, it means the experiment with bitcoin has failed. So the price will be 0.

It should be way higher than 10K if it's a success.. there's way too much money out there that could flock into the BTC ecosystem that would drive it absolutely nuts. Right now it's very small marketcap which means the price can go high really fast. When governments kill cash BTC will go to 100K+ per coin.

[fantoos]

I think in maximum 5-10 years from now on we will see price for per Bitcoin to be minimum 10000 $ which will be fair and clear in my opinion.The dream is not over yet it is only a matter of time.That day will come soon to see it over 10k$.

[USB-S]

If the price is not at $10k in 10 years, it means the experiment with bitcoin has failed. So the price will be 0.

It should be way higher than 10K if it's a success.. there's way too much money out there that could flock into the BTC ecosystem that would drive it absolutely nuts. Right now it's very small marketcap which means the price can go high really fast. When governments kill cash BTC will go to 100K+ per coin.

Governments won't kill cash, because that's the only thing that makes governments work. However if people finally chose to give up cash, price per bitcoin would be not 100k per coin but at least 2mil per coin. I think there was a site where you could use % wise of gold and fiat and other reserves to calculate the value of bitcoin. If anyone has that site please post it below.

[aciddude]

I don't post much....my bet is basically betting on the big boys.

Just look at the amount of VC money is flowing into Bitcoin.



I haven't invested much....but, look how much they invested and look at the internet we have today.

[98problems]

well that would be cool if this was possible though i dont think we will achieve such heights in at least next 10 years or so though that is just my opinion

[shamati]

well that would be cool if this was possible though i dont think we will achieve such heights in at least next 10 years or so though that is just my opinion

Friend like this soon you will be very rich    $$$$

[pissedoff]

We might reach $5000 per Bitcoin in around 5-10 years minimum but still who knows it might happen sooner.

[dodgrad]

We might reach $5000 per Bitcoin in around 5-10 years minimum but still who knows it might happen sooner.

We can see $2000 this year if the bitcoin is not split into two coins, the Core and the Classic. If there is split, then $20 for one of the coin.

[futureofbitcoin]

don't know why you would put the "dream" at an arbitrary "10k". why not 9329? or 10293?

IMO 10k is only the beginning. It tells us that cryptocurrencies are here to stay. I'm looking forward to 20k, 30k, 40k, 100k.

[vannoux]

We might reach $5000 per Bitcoin in around 5-10 years minimum but still who knows it might happen sooner.

We can see $2000 this year if the bitcoin is not split into two coins, the Core and the Classic. If there is split, then $20 for one of the coin.

Agree..
I think even when bitcoin have halving again, bitcoin prices will rise over $2000