If a member here gets a perma-ban, can the user still create another account?

[jacee]

So I was wondering, there is this thing called ban-evasion here. So if someone did this the result will be perma-ban, right? With this perma-ban, are all the alts get the same ban ? If then after that perma-ban of the account, Can the user still create another account without risking it to be banned?

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[shorena]

So I was wondering, there is this thing called ban-evasion here. So if someone did this the result will be perma-ban, right? With this perma-ban, are all the alts get the same ban ? If then after that perma-ban of the account, Can the user still create another account without risking it to be banned?

Ban evasion will increase your existing to the next level. Thus if you are evading your first ban you may still come back after a longer time period has passed.

A ban includes all accounts, no matter the length. The only exception is to create a new account (or use an existing unbanned one) to discuss your ban in meta.

Its essentially the person that is banned not the account

[jacee]

So I was wondering, there is this thing called ban-evasion here. So if someone did this the result will be perma-ban, right? With this perma-ban, are all the alts get the same ban ? If then after that perma-ban of the account, Can the user still create another account without risking it to be banned?

Ban evasion will increase your existing to the next level. Thus if you are evading your first ban you may still come back after a longer time period has passed.

A ban includes all accounts, no matter the length. The only exception is to create a new account (or use an existing unbanned one) to discuss your ban in meta.

Its essentially the person that is banned not the account

So that means any other account created after the perma-ban is safe to use and don't have the risk of getting banned for no reason at all? So it means that the IP of that person is already on the bad list of he forum right?

[fronti]

So I was wondering, there is this thing called ban-evasion here. So if someone did this the result will be perma-ban, right? With this perma-ban, are all the alts get the same ban ? If then after that perma-ban of the account, Can the user still create another account without risking it to be banned?

Ban evasion will increase your existing to the next level. Thus if you are evading your first ban you may still come back after a longer time period has passed.

A ban includes all accounts, no matter the length. The only exception is to create a new account (or use an existing unbanned one) to discuss your ban in meta.

Its essentially the person that is banned not the account

So that means any other account created after the perma-ban is safe to use and don't have the risk of getting banned for no reason at all? So it means that the IP of that person is already on the bad list of he forum right?

it is safe only for discussing here in the meta subforum.

[ndnh]

So I was wondering, there is this thing called ban-evasion here. So if someone did this the result will be perma-ban, right? With this perma-ban, are all the alts get the same ban ? If then after that perma-ban of the account, Can the user still create another account without risking it to be banned?

Ban evasion will increase your existing to the next level. Thus if you are evading your first ban you may still come back after a longer time period has passed.

A ban includes all accounts, no matter the length. The only exception is to create a new account (or use an existing unbanned one) to discuss your ban in meta.

Its essentially the person that is banned not the account

So that means any other account created after the perma-ban is safe to use and don't have the risk of getting banned for no reason at all? So it means that the IP of that person is already on the bad list of he forum right?

Nope. Creating another account after perma-ban and start posting that would simply get you another perma-ban.
shorena meant after a long (Edit, clarified: like ~100 years) period of time.

Yeah, the IP would get evil points.

[shorena]

So I was wondering, there is this thing called ban-evasion here. So if someone did this the result will be perma-ban, right? With this perma-ban, are all the alts get the same ban ? If then after that perma-ban of the account, Can the user still create another account without risking it to be banned?

Ban evasion will increase your existing to the next level. Thus if you are evading your first ban you may still come back after a longer time period has passed.

A ban includes all accounts, no matter the length. The only exception is to create a new account (or use an existing unbanned one) to discuss your ban in meta.

Its essentially the person that is banned not the account

So that means any other account created after the perma-ban is safe to use and don't have the risk of getting banned for no reason at all? So it means that the IP of that person is already on the bad list of he forum right?

Nope. You get perma-banned. i.e. Creating another account after perma-ban and start posting that would simply get you another perma-ban.
shorena meant after a long period of time.

Yeah, the IP would get evil points.

Sorry, I think I wrote that overly complicated.

Perma ban = all accounts of that person are banned forever. This includes accounts created later as long as the admins catch the person.
Time ban = all accounts of that person are banned for the given time, if one account evades the ban, the time increases.

[Lauda]

Perma ban = all accounts of that person are banned forever. This includes accounts created later as long as the admins catch the person.
Time ban = all accounts of that person are banned for the given time, if one account evades the ban, the time increases.

If you evade your ban the chances are higher that you will be permanently banned rather than the time period being increased.

[shorena]

Perma ban = all accounts of that person are banned forever. This includes accounts created later as long as the admins catch the person.
Time ban = all accounts of that person are banned for the given time, if one account evades the ban, the time increases.

If you evade your ban the chances are higher that you will be permanently banned rather than the time period being increased.

Thanks for the clarification I always had the impression that you just gain a level on the ban meter. I did not know you could skip a step. Makes sense though, if you consider cases where the banned user discussed the ban first only to use a different account that BadBear missed right afterwards.