Trendon Shavers-Philip Moustakis-United States Securities & Exchange Commission

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LoupGaroux

Unless you are a tax/securities attorney or specialist, please do not troll this thread.
We don't need anymore FUD then is already spread else where on these boards.

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[BCB]

Request for info
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120880.new#new

[ErebusBat]

Very interesting, I will be watching this.

[LoupGaroux]

LoupGaroux

Unless you are a tax/securities attorney or specialist, please do not troll this thread.
We don't need anymore FUD then is already spread else where on these boards.

Why would you want to limit the discussion to "tax/securities attorneys or specialists" when the conversation might gain something with input from someone who has already been interviewed several times over the past couple of months? It's not FUD if it is factual, and I can categorically state that at least two PPT's are a definite focus of this investigation beyond Trendon.

I can also confirm that this investigation is willing to use subpoena powers to compel "conversations" as required.

That's only causes fear if you are a PPT and you sent ANYTHING through to pirate, in which case you might want to be looking to reimburse real fast.

[BCB]

If it is factual then I apologize.  Your ignore button is just very very orange.

Thanks.

[LoupGaroux]

Apology accepted. Like the little boy who proclaimed the Emperor as walking down the street naked, some people just hate to see the truth. So I get ignored a lot. Unfortunately for my dramatic shade of orange, a lot of them then get banned and I am stuck with the color.

[EskimoBob]

Apology accepted. Like the little boy who proclaimed the Emperor as walking down the street naked, some people just hate to see the truth. So I get ignored a lot. Unfortunately for my dramatic shade of orange, a lot of them then get banned and I am stuck with the color.

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[MPOE-PR]

Unfortunately for my dramatic shade of orange, a lot of them then get banned and I am stuck with the color.

This is a good point. I wonder if it were possible to have users that ignore someone and then get banned have their ignore count the other way, retroactively. You and me would be glowing anti-orange in short order.

[ErebusBat]

I always wondered why the color... now I know.

[Smoovious]

Unfortunately for my dramatic shade of orange, a lot of them then get banned and I am stuck with the color.

This is a good point. I wonder if it were possible to have users that ignore someone and then get banned have their ignore count the other way, retroactively. You and me would be glowing anti-orange in short order.

or at least not count the ignores of banned people against you...

-- Smoov

[Ente]

ah, right, now I see! The orange color is, in fact, a huge conspiracy!
lol

I find it correlating very well for me. By now I see a lot less orange around, and have reduced my facepalming a lot accordingly.

Ente

[Smoovious]

... The orange color is, in fact, a huge conspiracy! ...

IT'S A PONZI!!!

...

sorry... force of habit...

-- Smoov

[DutchBrat]

This has probably been discussed before:

I put money in a PPT (BitcoinMax), so not directly with pirate aka Trendon S.

Is the SEC only interested in talking to people that have directly invested with pirate or also people that have invested with PPT operators?

It seems to me the bulk of the investors have gone through ppt's (at least the bulk of the money). And I cant be sure my ppt operator actually transfered the btc to pirate or ran their own hyip, using the pirate name as some sort of 'seal of recommendation'

So any info I can give the sec is circumstancial at best....

[BCB]

I've been hesitating to post about this because what you are stating is a very real concern from many of the member who are posting.  Let me compose something and I'll post here.

EDIT:

DutchBrat, I will say that if you were an investor and you were defrauded the any information you give is perfectly valid.  The only issue may be your nationality, and only the SEC can tell you how they can take and use information you provide.


Also this is a Securities investigation.  What information, posting, prospectus or email with information about the investment did you RELY on to make your investment.  This is the crux of the investigation.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Consider that the PPT operators are not protected for they are in fact co-conspirators with Trendon in this matter. Anyone who operated a PPT was as guilty in collecting funds, and MAKING CRIMINAL MISREPRESENTATIONS, as Trendon was. They were the collection points for this scam. I'm certain the net cast in this investigation will include the lackeys in this criminal enterprise, especially any who happen to be US citizens, even if they are currently living outside the US.

And this is not snitching, unless you are a member of the criminal gang behind this.

Currently, I can not name a single PPT, but if I wanted to know for sure who there were, I do know how to search for them. I wouldn't mind if there was a place where all the know PPTs are listed for posterity.

~Bruno K~

[Nolo]

Maybe Phil will even sign up and answer your questions (but that may be a conflict of interest for him).  Theymos, if he does please let him out of the newbee sections.

This made me lol   

[ObviousSock]

Consider that the PPT operators are not protected for they are in fact co-conspirators with Trendon in this matter. Anyone who operated a PPT was as guilty in collecting funds, and MAKING CRIMINAL MISREPRESENTATIONS, as Trendon was. They were the collection points for this scam. I'm certain the net cast in this investigation will include the lackeys in this criminal enterprise, especially any who happen to be US citizens, even if they are currently living outside the US.

And this is not snitching, unless you are a member of the criminal gang behind this.

Currently, I can not name a single PPT, but if I wanted to know for sure who there were, I do know how to search for them. I wouldn't mind if there was a place where all the know PPTs are listed for posterity.

~Bruno K~

Here is a start:  http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/payb.tc

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[BCB]

There is a crowed sourced PPT list here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120880.0


I'll update the second post

[Ente]

What you guys are discussing is called securities fraud in the United States. This is exactly what the US SEC is investigating. Unfortunately Trendon and the pass throughs who may or may not have colluded with Trendon Shavors will probably walk as the word is no one is talking SEC. And without witnesses the investigation will not lead to charges and game over you lose. You are the suckers left holding the worthless investment and who ever defrauded you gets off free.  That how is works. So do something about or stop wining about it on this board.

Does that mean *noone* gave information to Philip Moustakis?
After all the drama, cries and threads in this forum, noone simply passed on some info so Philip Moustakis could do the dirty work for us and go after Trendon?
That's a shame! If we aren't even capable of that, I wouldn't be afraid of anything as Trendon. He may just as well post his phonenumber, address and a detailed confession, the worst that would happen to him would be pizza and swear calls?!?

Philip Moustakis is on our side, don't forget that please!

Come on, people!
This is the chance to get something rolling against Trendon!
In case we screw up with this simple task, we can kiss all pirated coins goodbye, and prepare for a flood of scams of biblical proportions!

Ente

[BCB]

The investigation is non-public so there is no way to be certain. Some members has posted that they were interviewed. But I'm afraid many more gave info anonymously which can not be used bring charges. And many more victims refuse to come forward for fear of exposing themselves to additional, unknown legal exposure and there is nothing anyone else can do about it. So game (has been) over, Trendon Shavors (has already) won.