Astronomers may have found alien megastructures orbiting star near the Milky Way

[Spendulus]

Space infinite, is not universe its multiverse.

Not a fact, a belief.

Universe is finite.  Beyond that is not defined.

It is not a proven fact. The only finite is our instruments. We cannot see beyond that and we assume that is edge.

Your comment is in line with mine.  "Beyond that is not defined."

Your comment "Space infinite, is not universe its multiverse" is not a proven fact.

LOL somehow I think we might actually be in agrement...

[notbatman]

We're in a giant submarine, those aren't stars and planets out there it's the ceiling. There's no space, it's distilled water we're floating in. The cuddle fish has you all mesmerized with their light show.


Air breathing life is an artificial freak show, the fish are laughing and entertained. Things like fire, snow, smoking, drinking, baked goods, cars. They can't get enough of the novelty and drama here.

[eyeknock]

Yes, they are getting ready to have everyone fooled into believing there's alien life out there, and we're insignificant specs of dust in the infinite galaxy, lol.

mmm i must disagree, talking about numbers, if we really think that the universe is infinite, then there is infinite possibilities that there is "aliens" out there and the maths will never lie

[subSTRATA]

Yes, they are getting ready to have everyone fooled into believing there's alien life out there, and we're insignificant specs of dust in the infinite galaxy, lol.

mmm i must disagree, talking about numbers, if we really think that the universe is infinite, then there is infinite possibilities that there is "aliens" out there and the maths will never lie

except the universe is finite. that aside, as large as the universe is, the possibility of extraterrestrial life is there; we as humans havent even extensively searched or even been to another galaxy yet, much less another solar system. i for one think there's alien life out there.

[MakingMoneyHoney]

We're in a giant submarine, those aren't stars and planets out there it's the ceiling. There's no space, it's distilled water we're floating in. The cuddle fish has you all mesmerized with their light show.


Air breathing life is an artificial freak show, the fish are laughing and entertained. Things like fire, snow, smoking, drinking, baked goods, cars. They can't get enough of the novelty and drama here.

“Those who are able to see beyond the shadows and lies of their culture will never be understood, let alone believed, by the masses.”

― Plato

[panju1]

Yes, they are getting ready to have everyone fooled into believing there's alien life out there, and we're insignificant specs of dust in the infinite galaxy, lol.

mmm i must disagree, talking about numbers, if we really think that the universe is infinite, then there is infinite possibilities that there is "aliens" out there and the maths will never lie

except the universe is finite. that aside, as large as the universe is, the possibility of extraterrestrial life is there; we as humans havent even extensively searched or even been to another galaxy yet, much less another solar system. i for one think there's alien life out there.

There definitely may be extraterrestrial life, given the vastness of the universe.
Whether we will ever come in contact with extraterrestrial life at all, is another matter.

[vero]

How can anyone have a real idea of what an alien would build or what it would look like? A simple look around this planet tells us architecture can be hard to second-guess.

[subSTRATA]

How can anyone have a real idea of what an alien would build or what it would look like? A simple look around this planet tells us architecture can be hard to second-guess.

well in terms of the supposed dyson sphere, theres really only 1 efficient and sensible way to go about it; youre pretty much housing a star to utilize its resources, and theres only so many engineering approaches that make sense in implementing something like that. example, youre not going to build  a triangular prism around a star, it only makes sense that a spherical-shaped structure would be used.

just judging from 1 article: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

it seems the discovery is based off of unnatural, ie man/alien made patterns.

[criptix]

How can anyone have a real idea of what an alien would build or what it would look like? A simple look around this planet tells us architecture can be hard to second-guess.

well in terms of the supposed dyson sphere, theres really only 1 efficient and sensible way to go about it; youre pretty much housing a star to utilize its resources, and theres only so many engineering approaches that make sense in implementing something like that. example, youre not going to build  a triangular prism around a star, it only makes sense that a spherical-shaped structure would be used.

just judging from 1 article: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

it seems the discovery is based off of unnatural, ie man/alien made patterns.

it is actually one of the less probale hypothesis why the light intensity of KIC 8462852 has extreme dips which are not periodic.
to be precise it is about a 15-22% fluctuation, which is very unusual. a planet with the size of saturn would for example weaken the light of the sun by 1%.

as i understand right now things point to collapsed comets which produced dust and gas which weakens/weakened the sunlight instead of alien megastructures.

[StratusOakmont]

How can anyone have a real idea of what an alien would build or what it would look like? A simple look around this planet tells us architecture can be hard to second-guess.

well in terms of the supposed dyson sphere, theres really only 1 efficient and sensible way to go about it; youre pretty much housing a star to utilize its resources, and theres only so many engineering approaches that make sense in implementing something like that. example, youre not going to build  a triangular prism around a star, it only makes sense that a spherical-shaped structure would be used.

just judging from 1 article: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

it seems the discovery is based off of unnatural, ie man/alien made patterns.

it is actually one of the less probale hypothesis why the light intensity of KIC 8462852 has extreme dips which are not periodic.
to be precise it is about a 15-22% fluctuation, which is very unusual. a planet with the size of saturn would for example weaken the light of the sun by 1%.

as i understand right now things point to collapsed comets which produced dust and gas which weakens/weakened the sunlight instead of alien megastructures.

Comets cannot produce 15-22% fluctuation unless it is one million comets.

[chennan]

How can anyone have a real idea of what an alien would build or what it would look like? A simple look around this planet tells us architecture can be hard to second-guess.

well in terms of the supposed dyson sphere, theres really only 1 efficient and sensible way to go about it; youre pretty much housing a star to utilize its resources, and theres only so many engineering approaches that make sense in implementing something like that. example, youre not going to build  a triangular prism around a star, it only makes sense that a spherical-shaped structure would be used.

just judging from 1 article: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

it seems the discovery is based off of unnatural, ie man/alien made patterns.

From what I understood from the article and didn't really understand about it, was how where they able to locate this sphere that completely surrounds a whole star?  Wouldn't that sphere just be "hidden" by the darkness of space, since within the inside would be the star? 

Honestly I'm just amazed how they were able to locate this thing from earth...

[Wilikon]

I always wondered into what the universe is expanding INto... Is there a medium?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_okcNVZqqI

[criptix]

How can anyone have a real idea of what an alien would build or what it would look like? A simple look around this planet tells us architecture can be hard to second-guess.

well in terms of the supposed dyson sphere, theres really only 1 efficient and sensible way to go about it; youre pretty much housing a star to utilize its resources, and theres only so many engineering approaches that make sense in implementing something like that. example, youre not going to build  a triangular prism around a star, it only makes sense that a spherical-shaped structure would be used.

just judging from 1 article: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

it seems the discovery is based off of unnatural, ie man/alien made patterns.

it is actually one of the less probale hypothesis why the light intensity of KIC 8462852 has extreme dips which are not periodic.
to be precise it is about a 15-22% fluctuation, which is very unusual. a planet with the size of saturn would for example weaken the light of the sun by 1%.

as i understand right now things point to collapsed comets which produced dust and gas which weakens/weakened the sunlight instead of alien megastructures.

Comets cannot produce 15-22% fluctuation unless it is one million comets.

or a really big comet
they are talking about that this is a possible double star system where a second star is attracting comets from the oort cloud.

How can anyone have a real idea of what an alien would build or what it would look like? A simple look around this planet tells us architecture can be hard to second-guess.

well in terms of the supposed dyson sphere, theres really only 1 efficient and sensible way to go about it; youre pretty much housing a star to utilize its resources, and theres only so many engineering approaches that make sense in implementing something like that. example, youre not going to build  a triangular prism around a star, it only makes sense that a spherical-shaped structure would be used.

just judging from 1 article: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

it seems the discovery is based off of unnatural, ie man/alien made patterns.

From what I understood from the article and didn't really understand about it, was how where they able to locate this sphere that completely surrounds a whole star?  Wouldn't that sphere just be "hidden" by the darkness of space, since within the inside would be the star? 

Honestly I'm just amazed how they were able to locate this thing from earth...

we would see radiation but (nearly) no outcoming light and that would point to something like a dyson sphere.

[Spendulus]

How can anyone have a real idea of what an alien would build or what it would look like? A simple look around this planet tells us architecture can be hard to second-guess.

well in terms of the supposed dyson sphere, theres really only 1 efficient and sensible way to go about it; youre pretty much housing a star to utilize its resources, and theres only so many engineering approaches that make sense in implementing something like that. example, youre not going to build  a triangular prism around a star, it only makes sense that a spherical-shaped structure would be used.

just judging from 1 article: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

it seems the discovery is based off of unnatural, ie man/alien made patterns.

it is actually one of the less probale hypothesis why the light intensity of KIC 8462852 has extreme dips which are not periodic.
to be precise it is about a 15-22% fluctuation, which is very unusual. a planet with the size of saturn would for example weaken the light of the sun by 1%.

as i understand right now things point to collapsed comets which produced dust and gas which weakens/weakened the sunlight instead of alien megastructures.

Comets cannot produce 15-22% fluctuation unless it is one million comets.

One or several gas clouds could cause such a fluctuation, but they would have to be orbiting the star.
 
It isn't impossible.

Such a thing would be gravitationally unstable.

I'm not sure we have a way to know if the phenomena in question is "long or short lived."  If it is long lived, then energy is being put into the system to cause it to stand against gravity.  If it is short lived, then it will stop the 22-15% variations of it's own accord, after some thousands or millions of years.

"Long lived," with energy inputs, would basically mean artificial.  Next question is whether the doppler shifts have been measured.  That will tell the orbits of the orbiting masses.

[Wilikon]

How can anyone have a real idea of what an alien would build or what it would look like? A simple look around this planet tells us architecture can be hard to second-guess.

well in terms of the supposed dyson sphere, theres really only 1 efficient and sensible way to go about it; youre pretty much housing a star to utilize its resources, and theres only so many engineering approaches that make sense in implementing something like that. example, youre not going to build  a triangular prism around a star, it only makes sense that a spherical-shaped structure would be used.

just judging from 1 article: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

it seems the discovery is based off of unnatural, ie man/alien made patterns.

it is actually one of the less probale hypothesis why the light intensity of KIC 8462852 has extreme dips which are not periodic.
to be precise it is about a 15-22% fluctuation, which is very unusual. a planet with the size of saturn would for example weaken the light of the sun by 1%.

as i understand right now things point to collapsed comets which produced dust and gas which weakens/weakened the sunlight instead of alien megastructures.

Comets cannot produce 15-22% fluctuation unless it is one million comets.

One or several gas clouds could cause such a fluctuation, but they would have to be orbiting the star.
 
It isn't impossible.

Such a thing would be gravitationally unstable.

I'm not sure we have a way to know if the phenomena in question is "long or short lived."  If it is long lived, then energy is being put into the system to cause it to stand against gravity.  If it is short lived, then it will stop the 22-15% variations of it's own accord, after some thousands or millions of years.

"Long lived," with energy inputs, would basically mean artificial.  Next question is whether the doppler shifts have been measured.  That will tell the orbits of the orbiting masses.

Kepler was killed by shy aliens...

[ObscureBean]

Man, I say it's high time we actually live one of those alien invasion movies, how fun would that be??  Watching it on TV just isn't getting my adrenaline pumping anymore   (it used to when I was a kid)

[ridery99]

may have found....

[Denker]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

A large cluster of objects in space look like something you would "expect an alien civilization to build", astronomers have said.  

Jason Wright, an astronomer from Penn State University, is set to publish a report on the “bizarre” star system suggesting the objects could be a “swarm of megastructures”, according to a new report.

I was fascinated by how crazy it looked,” Wright told The Atlantic. “Aliens should always be the very last hypothesis you consider, but this looked like something you would expect an alien civilization to build.”  

 

In the near future, they also want to try and point a radio dish in the direction of the star and see if they can detect any radio frequencies that a typical advanced civilization might use.  This could be absolutely nuts if they can somehow confirm this.

This would be like a dream coming true. Imagine what this could mean if we would finally being able to prove not being the only planet with intelligent life in space.
This could be the beginning of a new era.

[Wilikon]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

A large cluster of objects in space look like something you would "expect an alien civilization to build", astronomers have said.  

Jason Wright, an astronomer from Penn State University, is set to publish a report on the “bizarre” star system suggesting the objects could be a “swarm of megastructures”, according to a new report.

I was fascinated by how crazy it looked,” Wright told The Atlantic. “Aliens should always be the very last hypothesis you consider, but this looked like something you would expect an alien civilization to build.”  

 

In the near future, they also want to try and point a radio dish in the direction of the star and see if they can detect any radio frequencies that a typical advanced civilization might use.  This could be absolutely nuts if they can somehow confirm this.

This would be like a dream coming true. Imagine what this could mean if we would finally being able to prove not being the only planet with intelligent life in space.
This could be the beginning of a new era.

... Space cuisine?

"How to serve men"

"It's a cook book!"

[subSTRATA]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

A large cluster of objects in space look like something you would "expect an alien civilization to build", astronomers have said.  

Jason Wright, an astronomer from Penn State University, is set to publish a report on the “bizarre” star system suggesting the objects could be a “swarm of megastructures”, according to a new report.

I was fascinated by how crazy it looked,” Wright told The Atlantic. “Aliens should always be the very last hypothesis you consider, but this looked like something you would expect an alien civilization to build.”  

 

In the near future, they also want to try and point a radio dish in the direction of the star and see if they can detect any radio frequencies that a typical advanced civilization might use.  This could be absolutely nuts if they can somehow confirm this.

This would be like a dream coming true. Imagine what this could mean if we would finally being able to prove not being the only planet with intelligent life in space.
This could be the beginning of a new era.

unfortunately, the uneducated and ignorant masses fear what they dont know, and would rather pour money into pointless wars and the pockets of lying politicians over the space program or beneficial government programs (social security).

given the backwards trend of society i dont expect much progress to be made on the space front until aliens contact us first.