Graphic Designer + Web Designer (for hire)

[Beefsock]

I certainly hope they're charging decently, then.  Even if it took just an hour, .185 (about 12 and fifty right now) per logo isn't exactly much.  When businesses are demanding logos left and right to fill up an entire day's worth of work, every day, non-stop, then it's a nice rate.  But once every now and then for a little extra on the side isn't a "rip-off."  It's not even part-time.

Further: those logos aren't very marketable.  They're all flash.  They look great artistically, but businesses (aside from a tattoo parlor maybe) aren't generally looking for logos like that.  I'm assuming they're using a 3D text tool and adding cool effects, which, as you say, doesn't take much time, which also implies it doesn't take much thought or effort into what the business actually needs for a logo.  Pick a font, add the effects, done.

Exactly why I gave those as an example. They're great artistically, and they only took 45 minutes. He could do one of those logo's listed in the OP in about 5 minutes if you gave him the things you wanted on it.  Saying it takes 2-3 hours is bullshit and it is a rip off, because it doesn't take that long at all if you're actually working on it. Say you're charging $60 for a layout, $25 for a logo, or whatever, but don't lie saying it takes 2-3 hours for something like that. If it does take you 2-3 hours, you're either OCD or just really slow.

He took 38 hours to make me a template (which btw, was never finished).
He's also now taking over 20 days to come up with a avatar to my forum account.

@Carlos, I am not making you an avatar. You aren't getting something for free from me? I agreed to make it but you never discussed terms further, we didn't even set a price. This is even AFTER our failed agreement earlier that exposed your ways earlier in the thread. I am a very well respected member of the bitcoin community as you know, stop the shenanigans please. By the way, the more you post the more my thread bumps and the more work I keep getting.

@Wardrick, I am professional freelance graphic designer, this means that I make 100% of my income to live through graphic design. I have a BA in graphic design/advertising and BA in studio art. If people would rather buy work from that other guy that's great and I fully support it. As an artist community everyone should support each others efforts unless they are overpricing for something. $15.00 an hour (with 2 degrees and over 13 years designing) IMO is very reasonable. By the way those logos aren't even vector.

None of my logos were made in 5 minutes, as all of my clients and anyone knowledgeable on the subject can attest to. When you rock out a clean vector logo based on client's demands in 3 hours that's what you get. I also offer 2 FREE revisions. My prices are more than reasonable as you can see by the mass amount of work I've created for the bitcoin community.

[ingrownpocket]

I certainly hope they're charging decently, then.  Even if it took just an hour, .185 (about 12 and fifty right now) per logo isn't exactly much.  When businesses are demanding logos left and right to fill up an entire day's worth of work, every day, non-stop, then it's a nice rate.  But once every now and then for a little extra on the side isn't a "rip-off."  It's not even part-time.

Further: those logos aren't very marketable.  They're all flash.  They look great artistically, but businesses (aside from a tattoo parlor maybe) aren't generally looking for logos like that.  I'm assuming they're using a 3D text tool and adding cool effects, which, as you say, doesn't take much time, which also implies it doesn't take much thought or effort into what the business actually needs for a logo.  Pick a font, add the effects, done.

Exactly why I gave those as an example. They're great artistically, and they only took 45 minutes. He could do one of those logo's listed in the OP in about 5 minutes if you gave him the things you wanted on it.  Saying it takes 2-3 hours is bullshit and it is a rip off, because it doesn't take that long at all if you're actually working on it. Say you're charging $60 for a layout, $25 for a logo, or whatever, but don't lie saying it takes 2-3 hours for something like that. If it does take you 2-3 hours, you're either OCD or just really slow.

He took 38 hours to make me a template (which btw, was never finished).
He's also now taking over 20 days to come up with a avatar to my forum account.

@Carlos, I am not making you an avatar. You aren't getting something for free from me? I agreed to make it but you never discussed terms further, we didn't even set a price. This is even AFTER our failed agreement earlier that exposed your ways earlier in the thread. I am a very well respected member of the bitcoin community as you know, stop the shenanigans please. By the way, the more you post the more my thread bumps and the more work I keep getting.

For free? Where the hell did I say I wanted it for free?

Here's my PM:

Hi,

I've deleted my posts on your topic, you should also delete the quoting you made to answer me  

I really don't like to have unfinished business with anyone, so I'm contacting you so you can have another chance to make things right.
This time is something simple, I think.
I need a unique avatar to use on my social networks, bitcointalk.org, twitter, etc...

Is should integrate Bitcoin, programming, PHP and HTML.
Doesn't need to have any direct references to any of those, those are examples to make your imagination more fertile  
(Example: https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_70642.png  )

If you agree to do this, please let me know.

Kind regards,
Carlos

Now please, quote the part I said I wanted it for free.

[Beefsock]

Carlos, if you are wanting to pay me for a simple avatar, as I said it is a pretty easy task so it won't take very long. Just PM me to discuss those terms further.

Bump.

[ingrownpocket]

Carlos, if you are wanting to pay me for a simple avatar, as I said it is a pretty easy task so it won't take very long. Just PM me to discuss those terms further.

Bump.

That's exactly what I want.
I gave you the description on the first PM, please make me questions and give me your price by PM.

[Beefsock]

Bump.  

[fwho]

Ill send a PM.

[Beefsock]

Bumpy.   

[takagari]

Any chance you worked with Concrete5? Love some help cleaing up my design, making it look nicer. etc.

www.eddiecreek.ca

[Beefsock]

Any chance you worked with Concrete5? Love some help cleaing up my design, making it look nicer. etc.

I haven't, but that doesn't mean I can't help you out. CSS is always the same and at the very least I can offer some suggestions, just drop me a PM.

[Stunna]

Quite like your work dude, hope you find something to work on.

Hey I appreciate it. Here's a logo I just made for bitchocolate.com!

Looks delicious, keep up the good work!

[Beefsock]

Looks delicious, keep up the good work!

Thanks Stunna, I'm actually working on another food related project as we speak!

[Beefsock]

Bump!

[eroxors]

Beefstock did a logo for me and I'm very happy with the result. He's professional and does great work.

[Beefsock]

Bump 

[fwho]

Just got my second logo done. Thank you.

[Beefsock]

I appreciate the kind comments. Bumparoo!

[Dreamybids]

Hello, I'm a graphic designer and web designer here to offer my services for btc. I have a BA in graphic design/advertising and a BA in studio art. I've made brochures, posters, business cards, websites, t-shirt designs, etc. Prices are negotiable depending on your specific needs. If you would like to see my personal website with more of my work just send me a PM.

• My rates are    per hour. (logos typically take around 2.5-3.5 hours to complete).

• Every design comes with 2 free revisions and all copyright to the artwork.

• I ask for 50% down payment unless you can prove your reputation is in good standing in one way or another.

• My reputation: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Beefsock

Reply to this thread or by PM and I'll be happy to accommodate you!  

I'm usually available to chat on IRC as well. My name is Beefsock on Freenode.





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My reputation: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Beefsock

Reply to this thread or by PM and I'll be happy to accommodate you!  

I'm usually available to chat on IRC as well. My name is Beefsock on Freenode.

[MagicBit15]

Holy shit your good, expect A PM in the future!!

[nottm28]

Hey I was watching the 'fantastic franks' thread but missed the end - did he end up choosing Fantastic Franks as his business name?

[fwho]

Hey I was watching the 'fantastic franks' thread but missed the end - did he end up choosing Fantastic Franks as his business name?

Sure did. I should probably update that thread huh?