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October 16, 2015, 11:40:42 PM
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WASHINGTON, D.C. — An estimated 75 percent of the all U.S. military deaths and about 90 percent of the injuries linked to the ongoing war in Afghanistan have occurred under President Obama’s watch, according to a Breitbart News tally.

President Obama, citing a “fragile” security situation at risk of deteriorating, announced today that he will be extending the U.S. military presence in Afghanistan for an undetermined amount of time, handing over the conflict to his successor.

In making the announcement, the President appeared clueless as to how many Americans were killed in Afghanistan in 2014 and this year.

“Afghanistan remains dangerous; 25 brave Americans have given their lives there this year… Now, the 25 military and civilians who were killed last year, that always weighs on my mind,” said Obama from the Roosevelt Room.

According to Obama’s own Department of Defense (DOD) however, 14 U.S. service members and one DOD civilian have been killed so far this year.

A Pentagon tally shows that in 2014, at least 55 American troops lost their lives in Afghanistan.

President Obama provided an estimate of the American fatalities in recognizing the sacrifice made by U.S. troops in Afghanistan, but he made no mention of how many were wounded in action.

“They served there with extraordinary skill and valor, and it’s worth remembering especially the more than 2,200 American patriots who made the ultimate sacrifice in Afghanistan,” said Obama from the Roosevelt Room.

Since the president was inaugurated for his first term on January 20, 2009, at least 1,672 U.S. soldiers, Marines, and sailors have lost their lives, and another estimated 17,425 have been wounded in action while supporting the Afghanistan war effort.

Overall, at least 2,230 U.S. service members have been killed and another 20,127 injured in the ongoing conflict, which started on October 7, 2001.

That means about three out of every four U.S. military deaths (75 percent) and an estimated 9 out of every 10 injuries (87 percent) in Afghanistan have taken place since Obama became president.

Breitbart News’ count is gleaned from Department of Defense (DOD) casualty reports, a now-retired database compiled by The Associated Press (AP), a detailed CNN count, and various news articles.

The Pentagon’s “Afghanistan only” total death tally of 2,229, which includes fatalities under the old Operation Enduring Freedom (2,215) and the new Operation Freedom’s Sentinel (14), is one less than Breitbart News’ count.

The majority of American fatalities throughout the war have been combat-related.

Most clashes between the U.S.-led coalition and insurgents have been concentrated in areas along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border. More than half of all American casualties have taken place in and around Afghan provinces that lie along the Af-Pak international boundary.

The U.S. and Afghanistan have accused Pakistan of providing sanctuary to terrorists fighting American forces in Afghanistan.

President Obama escalated America’s military presence in Afghanistan soon after taking office in 2009, eventually bringing the number of U.S. troops to its peak of about 100,000 in 2012.

However, he is also responsible for withdrawing most American troops by the end of 2014.

President Obama ended the U.S. combat mission in December of 2014, one of the deadliest years of the war for Afghan civilian and security forces.

In January, American troops embarked on their new train and assist mission, placing the Afghan security troops in the lead of security operations.

Afghanistan has experienced a Taliban resurgence since President Obama ended the combat mission. Military officials have also warned against the rise of the Islamic State (ISIS/ISIL) in Afghanistan. ISIS, which is reportedly making major military gains in a turf battle against the Taliban, is operating in about 75 percent of all 34 Afghan provinces, according to the United Nations.

A top Russian military official recently estimated that there are about 40,000 Taliban terrorists and up to 3,000 ISIS jihadists in Afghanistan.

Today, President Obama revealed that he will be handing the Afghanistan conflict to his successor.

He said the U.S. will maintain 5,500 troops in Afghanistan beyond 2016. He did not specify how long they will remain there.

Gen. John Campbell, the top commander of U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan, recommended that America leave behind more than the 1,000 troops that the president had promised would remain in Afghanistan after 2016.

Obama has vowed to end the U.S. war in Afghanistan and withdraw most American troops by the time he officially leaves the White House in January 2017.


http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/10/15/3-4-u-s-military-deaths-afghanistan-occurred-obama/


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October 17, 2015, 12:05:55 AM
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I thought the troops were supposed to pull out? American bases are like an infection that won't go away  Cheesy
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October 17, 2015, 03:36:31 AM
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I thought the troops were supposed to pull out? American bases are like an infection that won't go away  Cheesy
Though the same.
Anyway I think that the we have to blame the one who ordered to send the troops there. Surely they could find a better strategy but they chose the easiest one and repeated the same fault in Iraq and of course the consequences will appear later with his successor.
The number of soldiers killed or injured is under estimated you need to count the psychic sequel +++ which cause a heavy health problems and for some social problems (killing others for example).
War is the stupid solution for the world problems.

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October 17, 2015, 03:46:53 AM
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I thought the troops were supposed to pull out? American bases are like an infection that won't go away  Cheesy
Though the same.
Anyway I think that the we have to blame the one who ordered to send the troops there. Surely they could find a better strategy but they chose the easiest one and repeated the same fault in Iraq and of course the consequences will appear later with his successor.
The number of soldiers killed or injured is under estimated you need to count the psychic sequel +++ which cause a heavy health problems and for some social problems (killing others for example).
War is the stupid solution for the world problems.


We should blame bush for all the dead under the nobel peace prize winner? 0bama is the commander in chief of all armies. But not really, according to your logic.
Is 0bama to be blamed to this:
https://theintercept.com/drone-papers/

... Or are you willing to forgive because you are in love with 0bama?


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October 17, 2015, 04:15:09 AM
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I thought the troops were supposed to pull out? American bases are like an infection that won't go away  Cheesy
Though the same.
Anyway I think that the we have to blame the one who ordered to send the troops there. Surely they could find a better strategy but they chose the easiest one and repeated the same fault in Iraq and of course the consequences will appear later with his successor.
The number of soldiers killed or injured is under estimated you need to count the psychic sequel +++ which cause a heavy health problems and for some social problems (killing others for example).
War is the stupid solution for the world problems.


We should blame bush for all the dead under the nobel peace prize winner? 0bama is the commander in chief of all armies. But not really, according to your logic.
Is 0bama to be blamed to this:
https://theintercept.com/drone-papers/

... Or are you willing to forgive because you are in love with 0bama?



Well first didn't even mention Obama name for a reason  Wink nor defended him.
Imagine that Obama now ordered the troops to invade kim's Kingdom (north Korea) and it turns to be a big mess up few months/years after Trump got elected  with the envolvement of Chinese, Russian, Japan, S.Korea...  So you will blame who exactly? According to your logic it is Trump...  Undecided

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October 17, 2015, 07:03:48 AM
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wow that is not a good number glad im from the uk.
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October 17, 2015, 10:13:10 AM
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These deaths will continue to occur in the near future. The Americans overthrew the secular regime of Mohammed Najibullah in 1992 using the Taliban, which made it sure that the Afghans will remain as an uneducated and brainwashed people. Had Najibullah stayed in power, then Afghanistan would have been a stable and secular country now.
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October 17, 2015, 10:17:15 AM
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the fact that George Walker Bush send less troops its couse was just celules now its more taliban rule and very evil soo americans tend to die to safe all world cause no other capital countrie sees the same problem of terrorism in afgan.
its a mess out there we need machines to fight.
no to american blood spill
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October 17, 2015, 06:11:27 PM
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I thought the troops were supposed to pull out? American bases are like an infection that won't go away  Cheesy
Though the same.
Anyway I think that the we have to blame the one who ordered to send the troops there. Surely they could find a better strategy but they chose the easiest one and repeated the same fault in Iraq and of course the consequences will appear later with his successor.
The number of soldiers killed or injured is under estimated you need to count the psychic sequel +++ which cause a heavy health problems and for some social problems (killing others for example).
War is the stupid solution for the world problems.


We should blame bush for all the dead under the nobel peace prize winner? 0bama is the commander in chief of all armies. But not really, according to your logic.
Is 0bama to be blamed to this:
https://theintercept.com/drone-papers/

... Or are you willing to forgive because you are in love with 0bama?



Well first didn't even mention Obama name for a reason  Wink nor defended him.
Imagine that Obama now ordered the troops to invade kim's Kingdom (north Korea) and it turns to be a big mess up few months/years after Trump got elected  with the envolvement of Chinese, Russian, Japan, S.Korea...  So you will blame who exactly? According to your logic it is Trump...  Undecided

0bama won because he said everything bush did was wrong and, if elected, he would NOT be like bush. He was worse. AND won the nobel peace prize.

Everyone knows 0bama sees more enemies in the US than anywhere in the world. NK is safe.


Do you see the logic now?

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October 17, 2015, 08:39:01 PM
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I thought the troops were supposed to pull out? American bases are like an infection that won't go away  Cheesy
Though the same.
Anyway I think that the we have to blame the one who ordered to send the troops there. Surely they could find a better strategy but they chose the easiest one and repeated the same fault in Iraq and of course the consequences will appear later with his successor.
The number of soldiers killed or injured is under estimated you need to count the psychic sequel +++ which cause a heavy health problems and for some social problems (killing others for example).
War is the stupid solution for the world problems.


We should blame bush for all the dead under the nobel peace prize winner? 0bama is the commander in chief of all armies. But not really, according to your logic.
Is 0bama to be blamed to this:
https://theintercept.com/drone-papers/

... Or are you willing to forgive because you are in love with 0bama?
It is not Bush vs Obama. You can find reason to blame Clinton, and then bush SR, and then Reagon, etc...
Same shit, different president.
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October 18, 2015, 02:37:09 AM
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I thought the troops were supposed to pull out? American bases are like an infection that won't go away  Cheesy
Though the same.
Anyway I think that the we have to blame the one who ordered to send the troops there. Surely they could find a better strategy but they chose the easiest one and repeated the same fault in Iraq and of course the consequences will appear later with his successor.
The number of soldiers killed or injured is under estimated you need to count the psychic sequel +++ which cause a heavy health problems and for some social problems (killing others for example).
War is the stupid solution for the world problems.


We should blame bush for all the dead under the nobel peace prize winner? 0bama is the commander in chief of all armies. But not really, according to your logic.
Is 0bama to be blamed to this:
https://theintercept.com/drone-papers/

... Or are you willing to forgive because you are in love with 0bama?



Well first didn't even mention Obama name for a reason  Wink nor defended him.
Imagine that Obama now ordered the troops to invade kim's Kingdom (north Korea) and it turns to be a big mess up few months/years after Trump got elected  with the envolvement of Chinese, Russian, Japan, S.Korea...  So you will blame who exactly? According to your logic it is Trump...  Undecided

0bama won because he said everything bush did was wrong and, if elected, he would NOT be like bush. He was worse. AND won the nobel peace prize.

Everyone knows 0bama sees more enemies in the US than anywhere in the world. NK is safe.


Do you see the logic now?


Eh you avoid a direct example and here we go again with Obama...
I told you i don't like him nor care about his Nobel prize (sometimes I ask how they choose the winner, are they deaf and blind?)
Follow me here:
1- usa gave the weapons to taliban and their allies to fight the Soviet.
2- after that taliban and their allies attacked the usa. (well few people still ask questions about this point but let's admit it)
3-  mr bush declared the war and sent the troops (he could find another option rather than sending massive troops there)
4- (should we talk about Iraq and the fake proofs? No need to complicate things here (if I am not wrong soldiers that died/injured in iraq are higher, no?)
5-  Obama the actual president is blamed for the results of the war, i will not say he shouldn't be blamed at all but reading the history we should say that the first point (1) was a big mistake, (same goes for point 4), and for point 3 they took a fast decision which i don't think it made the world safer!
6- in the future the next president will be blamed too if he will keep soldiers there and they get killed in operations (he may even resend troops if things get out of control...)

Conclusion: you need to blame the whole foreign policy from many years ago (if things will remain the same maybe the future one)
Hope you can understand this point of view mate  Smiley

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October 18, 2015, 06:08:53 AM
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Its a mess out there we need machines to fight.
no to american blood spill

If you don't want to spill any American blood, then stay the fuck out of third world countries such as Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria. And only idiots will believe that the NATO went to these countries in order to bring "democracy". It was all about colonizing these parts of the world. It was about controlling the heroin trade in Afghanistan, oil in Iraq and natural gas pipelines in Syria.
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