Faucets - Re-investment - Trading [20 DOGE added]

[winspiral]

VIP shares have advantages and disadvantages.
VIP shares are (and for a long time normally) cheaper than free shares because the bonus is higher.
Dividends are same for free shares and VIP shares.
BUT...BUT...
VIP shares and VIP bonus shares can never be sold.

If VIP shares are cheaper, it would be helpful to mention the current value somewhere. If VIP shares can not get sold, does that also imply the system will not sell them and therefore those shares continue to produce dividends as long as the site keeps existing?

Sorry for the confusion:
Cheaper is perhaps not the right word because VIP shares are free...but have a value.

I give an example:
The base is always the same.It determinates the value of free shares,of re-invested shares,of sold shares and VIP shares.
But the bonus changes.
For the same work (a claim) you get more "VIP shares" than "normal shares"...it is why I have said they are cheaper.

Yes VIP shares produce dividends so long the site keeps existing.


The vip share are not sold means in fact they are sold but immediately it is re-invested in vip shares.
let's suppose in the system are:
0.4 shares and 0.1 VIP shares and 0.1 BTC (next payout)
After a system selling of 1%
we have in the system:
0.396 shares and 0.1 VIP shares and 0.104 BTC (next payout)

We can see that number of shares in system can increase or decrease.
But number of VIP shares in system can only increase.

[winspiral]

Why are VIP shares called "VIP shares"?

Because people who claim VIP shares are very important.
These people take risk.
Ok the risk is smoothed buy the VIP bonus.
But the profit can only be long after the claiming.

But what is made with satoshi used to create VIP shares?
The system is realistic and VIP shares are real shares which just can not be sold.
So the satoshi used for create the VIP shares are injected in the dividend pot.
So all shares (normal and VIP shares) will produce more dividends.

Having many shares is risky...Ok
But the more shares you have the more you profit from the claimed VIP shares in general bought by you or by other ones.

Have fun.

Edition 15/02/2016

Free share claim:3.6172E-6
Total pending payout:0.0151781278 BTC
Total payout:0.04684051 BTC
Number of claiming:1346 times
Number of selling:17 times.
Number of re-invest:8 times.
Number of VIP claiming:13 times.
Selling bonus:81.4117647059%
Claiming bonus:1.02823179792%
Re-invest bonus:173%
VIP bonus:106.461538462%

Now the "bonus system" is set.The market (you) will regulate it.
you have 4 possibilities:
1)...claim for free:
you get 0.00000361 shares + 0.00000003 bonus shares.
2)...selling your shares:
you get 0.00000361 BTC + 0.00000292 bonus shares.
3)...re-investing:
you reinvest 0.00000361 BTC for 0.00000361 shares + 0.00000624 bonus shares.
4)...claim for free VIPshares
you get 0.00000361 VIPshares + 0.00000382 bonus VIPshares.

This will permanently change.
Each time you can chose an operation it is different.

With this situation:
2))...we can see that a selling generates the less income for you because the BTC are from your shares and you have decrease the "risk"
1))...claiming for free is the most unrisky but the income is low too.
3))...re-investing generates a good income but you risk an reinvestment.
4))...claiming for free generates the best income but the risk is big because you can never sell the VIPshares.

Your questions are welcome...



A script error has paid pending shares 100 times more to a claimer...
I have update manually this error...
Please follow time to time your account...if you see something strange...you can use the contact link or let a message here...
...if I see a bonus worth 30000 satoshi or so...I see that it is "unormal"...



Now all is working perfectly (lol)

It is important to contact winspiral here or by contact link or by PM as soon as possible is something is wrong.
Fortunately i had only to correct 5 account manually...
All corrected accounts have get 2 or 3 satoshi more...(lol)

[winspiral]

Total accounts:217 accounts.
Total claimed for free:0.00782313 BTC
Total invested:0.36678287 BTC
Total pending investment:0.3279779824 BTC
Total VIP shares:0.00014551 BTC

Total VIP shares + pending investment:0.3281234924 BTC

Total pending payout:0.0174836329 BTC
Total payout:0.04684051 BTC
Number of claiming:1359 times
Number of selling:18 times.
Number of re-invest:8 times.
Number of VIP claiming:15 times.
Selling bonus:77.7777777778%
Claiming bonus:1.03016924209%
Re-invest bonus:175%
VIP bonus:93.3333333333%

How does it works?

Claim free shares here:
http://u2cloudmining.winspiral.net

Send the same BTC adress in my PM box
I will give you free shares worth 2000 satoshi
reach easily 10000 satoshi next payout and i send you 10000 satoshi

do not open multi accounts...
if you have already an account...
claim for free or sell shares or re-invest or claim VIP shares and send me your BTC address in my PM box and I credit you the shares worth 2000 satoshi

This offer is limited for 10 claimers.

let just me know here that you have sent the address

[JahBit]

Thanks for the Free Shares

[winspiral]

Thanks for the Free Shares

it's me who thank you for your trust in my system.

All people can now see on their account if they have claimed the free investment worth 2000 satoshi.

Please do not try to open multi-account just for the 2000 satoshi
if the system takes you at this bad game you risk to lose all your accounts...

If you cheat you do not steal me but all other investors.

[antiuser1]

What is the deal with the 2000 Satoshi? Altogether I claimed by far more than that for free, but the site tells me I did not claim 2000 Satoshi.

[winspiral]

What is the deal with the 2000 Satoshi? Altogether I claimed by far more than that for free, but the site tells me I did not claim 2000 Satoshi.

you have just to claim the free shares worth 2000 satoshi
by PM with your BTC adress (do not let it here)
or by contact link...

hey I joined tour site today to check it out

gonna see what all the shares are about before I invest.

what's the kinda returns we can see from day investing .001

hey,


About the  daily returns i do not know more than you...
I do not know the future.
You have 2 kind of returns:
dividends and a part of your own investment.

Nowadays it is slow,very slow because every one is "seeing"
For 0.001BTC wait 100 satoshi a day or so

You can estimate by analysing the "Admin panel & Info" page.
I earn not more and not less if people invest.
It is a game among the investors.
If you are not in a hurry...why not.

If you are in a hurry to see returns...avoid.
I will put this in the topic...so other can learn about...it is anonymus.

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I am not sure if people have understood perfectly the system about the "pending investment" because I have often in private the sames questions.

With the U2cloudmining nothing is fictive...all is "logic".
Let's suppose the total pending investment is 0.5BTC and the yearly dividend 0.05BTC
Then the yearly profit is 10%
if people are interested in this profit they will invest more and the pending investment will increase let's suppose to 1BTC
then the yearly profit will decrease to 5%
if people are not interested to invest more,then the total pending investment will decrease let's suppose to 0.25BTC
then the yearly profit will increase to 20%

This is the principle.
But it depends on the income and on the possibility for the system to resell shares.

[winspiral]

The system works perfectly but slowly.
People are afraid...
People are even afraid by claiming for free.

I could give more rewards now and when more people submit at the system,tell you that all is dry because i have given to much.

No,the system is realistic and works not on fictive "cash".

I thanks here the investors who have invested "satoshi" from their poket.
They will earn,no doubt,but very slowly.
Slowly because many investors are only passive investors.

Let's suppose that 1000 investors invest in the system 0.001
if the 1000 investors are inactive (inactive means they do not claim for the bonus) then the profit will be very low because the few "free investors" will not produce enough for 1000 "paying investors"

If the system is to slow...then people will be less and less interested to claim.
It is why it is important to participe as soon as possible.
More participation means more turn over.
More turn over means as well more fun.

I could programme more turn over,but if the turn over is just programmed,the profit will be too low to be fun.

I could easily spend satoshi to promote the system.
But if i spend satoshi,they will miss for the dividends.

It is as well strange that so few people ask for the "special 2000 satoshi bonus"

I could take them 2000 satoshi...I would wonder if they would awake...(lol)

[winspiral]

On the "Admin panel & Info" you can now see a graphic about:
total investment
total shares in system
pending payout
paidout

This page  shows you the progress and helps you to guess better the future.

As you can see with the U2cloudmining system all is clear.
I could only inform you about "pink datas" but it is not my way to manage systems.

People have to see that the system works better if the system is active.
If the investors just wait of dividends,all will be slow...very slow...
The graphic will show you the "speed".
In few days we will already have a good "image".

[winspiral]

You can follow the "claim graphic"

it seems that the market has fixed the value of a claim at arround 470 satoshi.

I recall that by priciple and potentially if the value of claim goes up the profit for the investors is less and if it goes down the profit is better.

it is of course only a generality because it depends as well  on other factors:
Someone has submited at a faucet where I am the referrer and as promised all my referrer commission goes for U2cloudmining
members...if this referral is active...more profit for the system.

[EvilRyu]

you have not yet claimed free investment worth 2000 satoshi by contact link or forums

Can I have it?
1QFM9GVrriEP5AYmEMbWHYy4WR32SmKwLm

[winspiral]

yes but erase your address because you can have problems...if someone cheat with it.

address must be send by PM

[winspiral]

The FAQ page has been improved.
You have now more info about bonus and strategies.

Feel free to ask here or by PM if something is not clear.
Better here because so every one can profit from the answers.

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26/02/16

Total accounts:229 accounts.
Total value claimed for free:0.00863340 BTC
Total value invested:0.36777471 BTC
Total value pending investment:0.3103030698 BTC
Total value VIP shares:0.00039450 BTC

(total value VIP shares + total value pending investment)=0.3106975698 BTC

Total pending payout:0.0405359245 BTC
Total payout:0.04686208 BTC
Number of claiming:1506 times
Number of selling:23 times.
Number of re-invest:13 times.
Number of VIP claiming:52 times.
Selling bonus:77.4782608696%
Claiming bonus:1.18326693227%
Re-invest bonus:137.076923077%
VIP bonus:34.2692307692%
Info for system:250.007681648%
Bonus regulator:188
Number of active members:16.(After last update)(worst was:13)(best was:22)

The system is now under the members hands.
Tomorrow and after tomorrow payout will be done.
I'm sorry for the active members that no more active members are in this system.

Do not forget that each time the system is used in a "honnest way" your potential dividend is bigger.
If the number of active members decreases then the system will sleep in...
If the number of active members increases then the system will speed up...

I see 16 active members...30 active members would already be nice.

A big part of what you earn with this system comes from my referrer commissions.
This means that it you earn via my referral links you earn more.

Have fun.

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Analyse of a situation (we take the datas here above)

Let's suppose the "base" is 400 satoshi value
if you claim for free you earn 400 satoshi +(400*1.18/100) = 405 satoshi

If you reinvest  400 satoshi
you earn for free (400 * 137/100)= 548

Most of people are interested in earning 405 satoshi.

ok all people have not pending payout...
but people have pending payout after a selling...
Why not sell to have pending payout and then re-invest to get the high bonus?

We can see that each possibility is different and makes different profit.

I would chose the option with 548 satoshi even if you have to resell them later.

Of course if option "re-invest" is more taken the bonus will decrease...
then,once decreased it will be intereting to know what it better...reinvesting or just claim for free.

[antiuser1]

I can confirm payout. Thanks winspiral!

[winspiral]

I can confirm payout. Thanks winspiral!

You're welcome.

The system is working perfectly but the turn over is slow.
Like said before one should have more participation.
One could offer more free shares,but then the investment would be less interesting and one were more in a classic "faucet system"

Too many people are still suspicious and doubtful.And my red trust points does not help it to change it.

I have more ideas under my hat (lol) but with only 15 active members it is not fun to developpe them.

...
To make more easy graph on FAQ page has been changed.
You see now how much you earn after an operation.
It is what you earn + bonus (in percentage)

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We are just now in an interesting situation.
you can see the situation on the FAQ page (if it has not changed)

After a reinvestment claim or a VIP claim we earn the same "value"

But in one situation we risk the reinvestment but we can all resell later.
In the other situation we risk nothing but we can not resell our VIPshares.

It will be interesting to see what will be the most used.

Post Scriptum:
In the future the VIPshares will perhaps be traded by the investors,but they have to stay in the system.
So far not enough active members to programme this option.

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A new option for VIP shareholders:
VIP shares can now be destroyed for a bonus in shares.

This option has not to be used with shut eyes...other options are perhaps better.
Take in the decision the differents bonusses and the possible progress of bonusses.

[winspiral]

Total accounts:232 accounts.
Total value claimed for free:0.00890070 BTC
Total value invested:0.37805362 BTC
Total value pending investment:0.3065263280 BTC
Total value VIP shares:0.00044589 BTC

(total value VIP shares + total value pending investment)=0.306972218 BTC

Total pending payout:0.0134083969 BTC
Total payout:0.08897369 BTC
Number of claiming:1565 times
Number of selling:25 times.
Number of re-invest:16 times.
Number of VIP claiming:62 times.
Number of VIP destroying:0 times.
Selling bonus:83.96%
Claiming bonus:1.34121405751%
Re-invest bonus:131.1875%
VIP bonus:33.8548387097%
Destroy bonus:117.81483871%
Info for system:250.343552767%
Bonus regulator:431
Number of active members:16.(After last update)(worst was:12)(best was:22)

It is now interesting to see how members wull manage the system.
What is done is very impotant because it is different and the difference influates the profit.

it is important to have a look at the "FAQ" page where you see your earning after each operation.

Of course best  earning means not best choice...it would be to easy.

Re-investing is more risky than a selling.
But what is the best?
Selling or re-investing?
I really do not know...the future will tell us.

I hope BonusBitcoin will payout...because if not it will reduce the future dividends...
But you can be sure...U2cloudmining is serious and will never promise you more than it can hold.
If you reach the minimum payout you will be paid arround the beginning or end of month.

it is why winspiral's site have not so much success...
Winspiral could promise more and not hold it.
So the first investors or claimers would be paid and after a time no one would be paid...
it is not my way to do.
I prefer only few members and held what I promise.
In my management,I never count on what i have not earned...It is why if I am not paid,it will not put down the system,you just get less dividends.

Have fun.

PS:
Good news...BonusBitcoin has send me my payout.

[winspiral]

A great improvement for you.

A new page has been created: the "Best Instant Profit" page.
there you can see the profit after one of the 5 possible claims.

The profit is regulated by the market.

The more a kind of claim is used,the less is the bonus...and then the profit.

But it would be to easy...best instant profit mean not best profit in the future...

Best Instant Profit is increased  there where the people like the LESS claiming...
And you...where will you claim?
I recall:claiming is free...and you know your instant profit for each claim...
What is exactly "instant profit"?
it is the value (in satoshi) of how much your account increases.
Have fun...

Investment will be suspended 31/03/2016 or sooner.
It is only suspended to see if it generates more activity from members.
More re-investing possibilities will be given soon...A password must then be set...
If you want invest,think about before.

[winspiral]

Claim base:449.1 satoshi
Selling earning:358.416346154 satoshi
Claiming for free earning:454.834661538 satoshi
Re-invest earning:548.166176471 satoshi
VIP bonus earning:578.528125 satoshi
Destroy bonus earning:621.255 satoshi
Info for system(370):370.296216692%
Bonus regulator:335

on the best instant earning page you can see how much you earn in satoshi after a claim.
we can see that it is different for each kind of claim.
if you sell shares you earn the less.
if you destroy VIP shares you earn the most.

The earning changes after each claiming...
if people only claim 'selling"...then the selling bonus will decrease...and the other ones a little increase.
of course you can not only destroy VIP shares...you have to claim them before.
A good profit if you claim VIPshares and destroy them at the good moment...
And you?
How do you manage the 5 kind of claims?

621.255 satoshi for a claim is not so bad...each time you claim somewhere for less...think about the U2cloudmining system.

And if you believe that it is interesting to invest..;do it now...because it will be suspended soon.

This suspension will help making better profit.
Not more profit in satoshi...but in percentages (we can say better ROI)

The target is to reach only 0.20BTC or so.
This will increase the ROI 33% or so.

And do not forget to set a password on the account page.
You will need this password  soon.It is to avoid bots and cheater on accounts...


Have fun...

[assloua]

i just want to say thank you for your 2nd payment

[winspiral]

i just want to say thank you for your 2nd payment

you are welcome.

I hope you will get many more.

March 07,2016...........................................................

Claim base:436.3 satoshi
Selling earning:340.314 satoshi
Claiming for free earning:441.695221951 satoshi
Re-invest earning:520.480235294 satoshi
VIP bonus earning:554.27552 satoshi
Destroy bonus earning:632.011714286 satoshi
Info for system(370):370.42784587%
Bonus regulator:270

It is interesting to see how the market do...
Why is not the best instant profit taken?
Best instant profit is a certitude...
Best claim is only known in the future.

Nowadays the best instant profit is destroying VIPshares with earning 632 sat.
But perhaps it is better to sell with 340 sat earning if in the future the system will sleep in?
Perhaps it is better to claim VIPshares with 554 sat earning to destroy them later?
Perhaps a re-investment (436 sat) with 520 sat earning with hop that it takes good dividend and that the system does not sleep in.
Is just free claim with 441 sat a good operation?
It is what is the most taken...

The instant earning  for each "operation" will change because market regulated.
It can happen that an "operation" gives very huge instant earning...
So people will chose this one and the instant earning will then decrease for this "operation"

I hope you have understood this system.