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Hello everybody ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I'm a happy owner of a "old" Raspberry Pi (model B, and not B+). I installed cgminer, and joined Slush's pool. I managed to make the USB ASIC miner block erupter 330MH/s working. However, the rewards i got are extremely low. Therefore, i was wondering which device i should buy, to get a reward superior to the power consumption. My budget is around $100, although the absolute maximum would be $160. Thanks in advance for your help. Regards,
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October 18, 2015, 02:18:23 PM Last edit: October 18, 2015, 02:35:44 PM by --Encrypted-- |
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you won't get any profit with that kind of budget. nowadays it's almost impossible to earn a sizable profit using a 1TH ASIC that is worth over $350.
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October 18, 2015, 02:36:27 PM |
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If electric is quite cheap a pair of S3 could do well. Not a lot of profit (about $50/month total return right now, something like that?) but certainly better than a block erupter.
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October 18, 2015, 04:44:52 PM |
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Hello everybody ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I'm a happy owner of a "old" Raspberry Pi (model B, and not B+). I installed cgminer, and joined Slush's pool. I managed to make the USB ASIC miner block erupter 330MH/s working. However, the rewards i got are extremely low. Therefore, i was wondering which device i should buy, to get a reward superior to the power consumption. My budget is around $100, although the absolute maximum would be $160. Thanks in advance for your help. Regards, With the block erupters 1 of siehacks compac's can bet them by quite a bit. Compare 333 MHz to 8GHz normal and up to 16 GHz without much work. Also what is your electricity price? If cheap enough there are options on used miners.
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October 19, 2015, 07:22:00 AM |
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Hello, Thanks everyone for your answers. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) If electric is quite cheap a pair of S3 could do well. Not a lot of profit (about $50/month total return right now, something like that?) but certainly better than a block erupter.
I just checked my electricity bill. The company EDF (Electicité de France) sells 1 kWh for 0.10€, then i have to pay a first tax of 0.01€ per kWh, and of course the VAT: 19,6% here in France. I think that most of our electricity is produced from nuclear power stations ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) . In the early 70's (even if i was not born ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ) we were told that it would be the cheapest method of producting electricty but it turns out that it is not the case. We have very old nuclear power plants and it costs a lot to close them cleanly ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Just wondering: do you pay more or less than me? Cheers, P.S.: I would be very happy to earn $50/month. That's even more than expected ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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October 19, 2015, 07:27:00 AM |
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Hello, Thanks for your message. It looks indeed very interesting. I'm going to dig deeper into the subject thanks to the links provided ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Regards,
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October 19, 2015, 07:56:10 AM |
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Hello, Thanks for your message. It looks indeed very interesting. I'm going to dig deeper into the subject thanks to the links provided ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Regards, To be honest there is not much to research. If you want a stick miner to mine. Go get one of sidehacks compacs. No other usb stick can do 8gh let alone 16gh when oc. Raspberry PI is nice as it uses very little power.
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October 19, 2015, 08:44:36 AM |
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Hello, To be honest there is not much to research. If you want a stick miner to mine. Go get one of sidehacks compacs.
No other usb stick can do 8gh let alone 16gh when oc. Raspberry PI is nice as it uses very little power.
It's just that i know it's rude to ask questions without reading first every topics the members provide ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Still this USB device "sidehacks compacs" looks amazing: cheap and as powerful as the big equipments. Any drawback? Would i have to join the sidehacks pool too? I mean is it just recommended or mandatory? Thanks again ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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October 19, 2015, 08:46:54 AM |
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Hello, To be honest there is not much to research. If you want a stick miner to mine. Go get one of sidehacks compacs.
No other usb stick can do 8gh let alone 16gh when oc. Raspberry PI is nice as it uses very little power.
It's just that i know it's rude to ask questions without reading first every topics the members provide ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Still this USB device "sidehacks compacs" looks amazing: cheap and as powerful as the big equipments. Any drawback? Would i have to join the sidehacks pool too? I mean is it just recommended or mandatory? Thanks again ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) If i'm not mistaking, sidehack uses the same component as the S7, so there shouldn't be to much downsides ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ps: i THINK i'm correct, but my memory sometimes fails, check the specs before buying a stick ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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October 19, 2015, 09:04:00 AM |
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Hello, To be honest there is not much to research. If you want a stick miner to mine. Go get one of sidehacks compacs.
No other usb stick can do 8gh let alone 16gh when oc. Raspberry PI is nice as it uses very little power.
It's just that i know it's rude to ask questions without reading first every topics the members provide ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Still this USB device "sidehacks compacs" looks amazing: cheap and as powerful as the big equipments. Any drawback? Would i have to join the sidehacks pool too? I mean is it just recommended or mandatory? Thanks again ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) If i'm not mistaking, sidehack uses the same component as the S7, so there shouldn't be to much downsides ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ps: i THINK i'm correct, but my memory sometimes fails, check the specs before buying a stick ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Its actually using the BM1384 chip so not S7. But what sidehack and novak did was amazing on what the dropped power to. They truly excelled at this. It's currently in-between batches but within 2 weeks I think should start shipping. If your in us it's pretty easy - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1126705.0 . Europe is a little different. But on the club it is not necessary to join. It's just a group of us that pooled ours together for fun. We are solo mining which it's a small chance of hitting it but we have fun doing it together. The club is really a group that supports sidehacks hardware current and hopefully future ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) .
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October 19, 2015, 09:09:13 AM |
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Hello, To be honest there is not much to research. If you want a stick miner to mine. Go get one of sidehacks compacs.
No other usb stick can do 8gh let alone 16gh when oc. Raspberry PI is nice as it uses very little power.
It's just that i know it's rude to ask questions without reading first every topics the members provide ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Still this USB device "sidehacks compacs" looks amazing: cheap and as powerful as the big equipments. Any drawback? Would i have to join the sidehacks pool too? I mean is it just recommended or mandatory? Thanks again ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) If i'm not mistaking, sidehack uses the same component as the S7, so there shouldn't be to much downsides ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ps: i THINK i'm correct, but my memory sometimes fails, check the specs before buying a stick ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Its actually using the BM1384 chip so not S7. But what sidehack and novak did was amazing on what the dropped power to. They truly excelled at this. It's currently in-between batches but within 2 weeks I think should start shipping. If your in us it's pretty easy - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1126705.0 . Europe is a little different. But on the club it is not necessary to join. It's just a group of us that pooled ours together for fun. We are solo mining which it's a small chance of hitting it but we have fun doing it together. The club is really a group that supports sidehacks hardware current and hopefully future ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . I can vouch for the fact that getting a stick in europe isn't easy... There is one seller AFAIK, but he hasn't sold a single stick so far (still not in stock). I've been checking his site frequently over the past month(s), but nothing so far... https://www.bitshopper.de/shop/sha-256-miner/usb-miner-bitcoin/gekkoscience-compac/![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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October 19, 2015, 11:16:34 AM |
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Hello, To be honest there is not much to research. If you want a stick miner to mine. Go get one of sidehacks compacs.
No other usb stick can do 8gh let alone 16gh when oc. Raspberry PI is nice as it uses very little power.
It's just that i know it's rude to ask questions without reading first every topics the members provide ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Still this USB device "sidehacks compacs" looks amazing: cheap and as powerful as the big equipments. Any drawback? Would i have to join the sidehacks pool too? I mean is it just recommended or mandatory? Thanks again ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) If i'm not mistaking, sidehack uses the same component as the S7, so there shouldn't be to much downsides ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ps: i THINK i'm correct, but my memory sometimes fails, check the specs before buying a stick ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Its actually using the BM1384 chip so not S7. But what sidehack and novak did was amazing on what the dropped power to. They truly excelled at this. It's currently in-between batches but within 2 weeks I think should start shipping. If your in us it's pretty easy - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1126705.0 . Europe is a little different. But on the club it is not necessary to join. It's just a group of us that pooled ours together for fun. We are solo mining which it's a small chance of hitting it but we have fun doing it together. The club is really a group that supports sidehacks hardware current and hopefully future ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . I can vouch for the fact that getting a stick in europe isn't easy... There is one seller AFAIK, but he hasn't sold a single stick so far (still not in stock). I've been checking his site frequently over the past month(s), but nothing so far... https://www.bitshopper.de/shop/sha-256-miner/usb-miner-bitcoin/gekkoscience-compac/![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) I keep thinking the will have them in sometime. Not sure of timeline though. To be honest if renderings are right I might want a Europe one - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=464496.0 . I like owning set's. So not sure if I will manage to get one of those for decent to US or if they even will sell one to US. Have you asked the seller in email or anything if they are close?
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October 19, 2015, 11:19:46 AM |
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I keep thinking the will have them in sometime. Not sure of timeline though. To be honest if renderings are right I might want a Europe one - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=464496.0 . I like owning set's. So not sure if I will manage to get one of those for decent to US or if they even will sell one to US. Have you asked the seller in email or anything if they are close? Actually, i haven't contacted them yet... I might send them a mail and ask for a timeframe tough... I don't know if they ship to the US either, if they don't ship i can easily buy one for you and send it over (don't mind using an escrow)...
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October 19, 2015, 11:23:34 AM |
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I keep thinking the will have them in sometime. Not sure of timeline though. To be honest if renderings are right I might want a Europe one - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=464496.0 . I like owning set's. So not sure if I will manage to get one of those for decent to US or if they even will sell one to US. Have you asked the seller in email or anything if they are close? Actually, i haven't contacted them yet... I might send them a mail and ask for a timeframe tough... I don't know if they ship to the US either, if they don't ship i can easily buy one for you and send it over (don't mind using an escrow)... Thank you for the offer I will have to keep it in mind. With it being Monday might toss them an email and see what they say. I would suspect once they get it going it will move pretty fast. But if they are working on first batch there could be some tinkering to get it right on their manufacture machines as I suspect they and Sidehack do not have exact same machines.
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October 19, 2015, 12:40:05 PM |
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Hello ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Thanks for the answers. Although, i live in France, i don't mind buying in the US, even if the seller doesn't ship oversea. Indeed, i know and use a very reliable mail forwarder (they have a referral scheme, so don't hesitate to contact me if interested ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ). From what i understood, both device from bitshopper.de (europe market) and GekkoScience (US market), is build from the same recycle chip board (am i right?). The first batch is already sold out, and the second batch should be available soon, although a little more expensive (but the new device might be more powerful). Did i understand correctly? Cheers, Jeff.
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October 19, 2015, 12:46:30 PM |
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Hello ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Thanks for the answers. Although, i live in France, i don't mind buying in the US, even if the seller doesn't ship oversea. Indeed, i know and use a very reliable mail forwarder (they have a referral scheme, so don't hesitate to contact me if interested ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ). From what i understood, both device from bitshopper.de (europe market) and GekkoScience (US market), is build from the same recycle chip board (am i right?). The first batch is already sold out, and the second batch should be available soon, although a little more expensive (but the new device might be more powerful). Did i understand correctly? Cheers, Jeff. Not sure of bitshoppers source of chips. But Bitmain sold 1k chips to sidehack. They are using those chips on the US/Non-Europe compacs. If you have a good mail forwarder like you said you can put in a order to get in queue. Currently it's between batch 1 and 2 it should be less than 2 weeks from when me made the announcement. The recycling of board is more for a future product from Sidehack. The pod, it is still in dev though.
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October 19, 2015, 12:46:57 PM |
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I keep thinking the will have them in sometime. Not sure of timeline though. To be honest if renderings are right I might want a Europe one - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=464496.0 . I like owning set's. So not sure if I will manage to get one of those for decent to US or if they even will sell one to US. Have you asked the seller in email or anything if they are close? Actually, i haven't contacted them yet... I might send them a mail and ask for a timeframe tough... I don't know if they ship to the US either, if they don't ship i can easily buy one for you and send it over (don't mind using an escrow)... Me too:) I would be more than happy to do our US members a favor. That beeing said, it's very likely that the two sticks are very similar. Did i miss something? Cheers, Jeff.
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October 19, 2015, 12:49:15 PM |
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I keep thinking the will have them in sometime. Not sure of timeline though. To be honest if renderings are right I might want a Europe one - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=464496.0 . I like owning set's. So not sure if I will manage to get one of those for decent to US or if they even will sell one to US. Have you asked the seller in email or anything if they are close? Actually, i haven't contacted them yet... I might send them a mail and ask for a timeframe tough... I don't know if they ship to the US either, if they don't ship i can easily buy one for you and send it over (don't mind using an escrow)... Me too:) I would be more than happy to do our US members a favor. That beeing said, it's very likely that the two sticks are very similar. Did i miss something? Cheers, Jeff. If the rendering is correct in stick forum they will have a different heatsink. So as far as usability should be the same. But it looks different ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) and i like to collect sets. So no real justification on getting one besides I like collecting sets.
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October 19, 2015, 01:03:49 PM |
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Not sure of bitshoppers source of chips. But Bitmain sold 1k chips to sidehack. They are using those chips on the US/Non-Europe compacs. If you have a good mail forwarder like you said you can put in a order to get in queue. Currently it's between batch 1 and 2 it should be less than 2 weeks from when me made the announcement.
The recycling of board is more for a future product from Sidehack. The pod, it is still in dev though.
I already sent a PM to Sidehack to know the availability. So the device is assembled from "new" spare parts? How did Sidehack manage to sell it for only $25? I mean it is the price for an "old" Asic Miner Block Erupter 330MH/s at amazon... Cheers, Jeff.
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