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October 18, 2015, 02:27:20 PM
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We are happy to announce our new gambling/dice platform: Bitroll.XYZ.

If you want to test us, you can deposit just a low amount of coins - they are credited after just one confirmation.

We have a automatic bet system for high rollers.

And the best: 0% house edge for a limited time!

We have bitcoins to withdraw for big winners just right now!
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October 18, 2015, 02:31:02 PM
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Seriously? The same dumb old coindice script? Don't tell me later when the mysterious hacker who always seems to attack these kinds of sites attacks and steals all your bankroll too.
And lastly, this belongs to gambling board(reported).
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October 18, 2015, 02:36:29 PM
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Seriously? The same dumb old coindice script? Don't tell me later when the mysterious hacker who always seems to attack these kinds of sites attacks and steals all your bankroll too.

Yes, the same dumb old coindice script, but:
  • Bugs were fixed
  • We switched from old MySQL driver to PDO
  • We improved the deposit system (separation of addresses an deposits/transactions)
  • We have improved several other things
  • We will introduce a referral system within the next days
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October 18, 2015, 02:46:59 PM
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Seriously? The same dumb old coindice script? Don't tell me later when the mysterious hacker who always seems to attack these kinds of sites attacks and steals all your bankroll too.

Yes, the same dumb old coindice script, but:
  • Bugs were fixed
  • We switched from old MySQL driver to PDO
  • We improved the deposit system (separation of addresses an deposits/transactions)
  • We have improved several other things
  • We will introduce a referral system within the next days
Uhuh, and how does that make you better than any of the existing dice sites?
Bigger bankroll? Nope
Extra features? Nope
Promotions? Nope
Unique idea? Nope
Trusted owner? Nope
Care to tell me again how is this even better from the dumb old moneypot dice sites that even without doing anything special fulfill nearly all of the listed "requirements".
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October 18, 2015, 02:58:08 PM
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Trusted owner? Nope


This is not needed. If a gambling site is using moneypot API then the owner doesnt need to be trusted, that is the whole point of using moneypot. You dont even need to know who the owner is or his track record , you just need to trust moneypot because they handle your funds and keep it safe
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October 18, 2015, 03:03:11 PM
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Trusted owner? Nope


This is not needed. If a gambling site is using moneypot API then the owner doesnt need to be trusted, that is the whole point of using moneypot. You dont even need to know who the owner is or his track record , you just need to trust moneypot because they handle your funds and keep it safe

Did you visit the site before comment? This is not a moneypot app, so that's why he said like that. As what mexxer said, it is just an old coindice script site.

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October 18, 2015, 03:20:03 PM
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For now, you can just play with your coins "for free" (with no fees). The system is provably fair.

We guarantee there are enough coins to cash out winnings. If sometimes there are not, we will make bitcoins from our cold wallet available.
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October 18, 2015, 03:24:43 PM
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Trusted owner? Nope


This is not needed. If a gambling site is using moneypot API then the owner doesnt need to be trusted, that is the whole point of using moneypot. You dont even need to know who the owner is or his track record , you just need to trust moneypot because they handle your funds and keep it safe

Did you visit the site before comment? This is not a moneypot app, so that's why he said like that. As what mexxer said, it is just an old coindice script site.


i think he means if the site were using moneypot API being trusted wouldn't have been needed
which i think is not completely true, because i doubt if moneypot audits all the sites that are using their API, they are just a gambling wallet which make some things easier.

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October 18, 2015, 03:38:46 PM
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Trusted owner? Nope


This is not needed. If a gambling site is using moneypot API then the owner doesnt need to be trusted, that is the whole point of using moneypot. You dont even need to know who the owner is or his track record , you just need to trust moneypot because they handle your funds and keep it safe

Did you visit the site before comment? This is not a moneypot app, so that's why he said like that. As what mexxer said, it is just an old coindice script site.


i think he means if the site were using moneypot API being trusted wouldn't have been needed
which i think is not completely true, because i doubt if moneypot audits all the sites that are using their API, they are just a gambling wallet which make some things easier.

He quoted mexxer's post about trustworthiness, so he should not say about moneypot because this site is not using moneypot API. So it is out of topic IMO.

 

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October 18, 2015, 03:38:56 PM
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For now, you can just play with your coins "for free" (with no fees). The system is provably fair.

We guarantee there are enough coins to cash out winnings. If sometimes there are not, we will make bitcoins from our cold wallet available.
Coming back to my point of wallet, is there any proof of you guys even having a balance needed to sustain a dice site? If so, is there proof available?

i think he means if the site were using moneypot API being trusted wouldn't have been needed
which i think is not completely true, because i doubt if moneypot audits all the sites that are using their API, they are just a gambling wallet which make some things easier.
I think moneypot does do that, i.e "audit" sites so that their reputation doesn't go down. AFAIK the site even has to "install" moneypot's provably fair system. And lastlt the list I had come up with compares this site with different from MP sites, with MP sites being in the advantage.
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October 18, 2015, 03:48:37 PM
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i can not find any way to see seeds or any provably fair section.
is there any way to check it?

p.s. it is funny how the high rollers section only shows winning rolls instead of both winning and losing rolls!

For now, you can just play with your coins "for free" (with no fees). The system is provably fair.

We guarantee there are enough coins to cash out winnings. If sometimes there are not, we will make bitcoins from our cold wallet available.
Coming back to my point of wallet, is there any proof of you guys even having a balance needed to sustain a dice site? If so, is there proof available?

i think he means if the site were using moneypot API being trusted wouldn't have been needed
which i think is not completely true, because i doubt if moneypot audits all the sites that are using their API, they are just a gambling wallet which make some things easier.
I think moneypot does do that, i.e "audit" sites so that their reputation doesn't go down. AFAIK the site even has to "install" moneypot's provably fair system. And lastlt the list I had come up with compares this site with different from MP sites, with MP sites being in the advantage.

oh, ok i did not know that.

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October 18, 2015, 04:03:33 PM
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i can not find any way to see seeds or any provably fair section.
is there any way to check it?

You can find it in the menu at the top under the point "FAIR?".

p.s. it is funny how the high rollers section only shows winning rolls instead of both winning and losing rolls!

Yes, that was named wrong. I changed it.
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October 18, 2015, 05:21:16 PM
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You could at least redesigned the front end for the site this is the 10th site to use this script but the plus is the nice faucet. The rolls are too slow on this script and sadly it shows the age of the script.
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October 18, 2015, 06:09:42 PM
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The site is beyond extremely vulnerable and buggy.  Shocked
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October 18, 2015, 06:32:54 PM
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I think moneypot does do that, i.e "audit" sites so that their reputation doesn't go down. AFAIK the site even has to "install" moneypot's provably fair system. And lastlt the list I had come up with compares this site with different from MP sites, with MP sites being in the advantage.

Nah, MoneyPot doesn't audit sites at all. We try be an open system, so anyone can use our platform without permission.

However, a site can only have access to the money you explicitly credit it with, and can never rig rolls (they provably fair is done by MP itself). However, there's nothing stopping them just tipping away your balance. So a moneypot site can steal from you, but if they do, you'll know. =)

Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of.
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October 18, 2015, 06:36:22 PM
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Oh looks like no more faucet and I guess no more players because of no faucet also where is it possible to change the seed
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October 18, 2015, 06:44:28 PM
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The site is beyond extremely vulnerable and buggy.  Shocked

I do not think so. The base script is buggy. But all should be fixed...

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The faucet is outsourced: Bitearn.XYZ. We will think about that again, but that was only for testing the game.
You can test it with a bet of 0 also.

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That is not possible yet, but you are right - that makes sense. I will implement that.
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October 18, 2015, 07:18:34 PM
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If you are trying to get in business please do something unique with better design.
How big is your bankroll?
I like the design of the your faucet.

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If you are trying to get in business please do something unique with better design.
How big is your bankroll?
I like the design of the your faucet.

We are working on another design Smiley

We have 7 BTC in hot wallet. Cold wallet is much larger.
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October 18, 2015, 07:39:15 PM
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We have 7 BTC in hot wallet. Cold wallet is much larger.

Would you mind signing a message using your address(es) to prove that?
It is a bit hard to believe you have much more than 7 BTC but have chosen to use a free .xyz domain.

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