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October 30, 2012, 10:17:08 AM Last edit: October 30, 2012, 06:42:07 PM by flower1024 |
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hi, i just want to share my bfl refund experience. i have send them an email and after three days i've got all my bitcoins back. obviously they gave me a few less coins because of the changed usd/btc price. i wanted a refund because i am afraid that bfl is not the first on the market and i think that i wont be able to mine back my price of the gear. i do still think bfl is the best asic vendor - at least for now edit: bitpay has a perfect service. they even came back to me because they didn't find my refund transaction in the blockchain as we both used a mtgox address. +1 for doublechecking
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October 30, 2012, 11:08:02 AM |
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hi, i just want to share my bfl refund experience. i have send them an email and after three days i've got all my bitcoins back. obviously they gave me a few less coins because of the changed usd/btc price. i wanted a refund because i am afraid that bfl is not the first on the market and i think that i wont be able to mine back my price of the gear. i do still think bfl is the best asic vendor - at least for now what made you change ur mind?
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flower1024 (OP)
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October 30, 2012, 11:09:32 AM |
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what made you change ur mind?
i wanted a refund because i am afraid that bfl is not the first on the market and i think that i wont be able to mine back my price of the gear.
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October 30, 2012, 11:12:43 AM |
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what made you change ur mind?
i wanted a refund because i am afraid that bfl is not the first on the market and i think that i wont be able to mine back my price of the gear.
So, your going to quit mining?
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
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flower1024 (OP)
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October 30, 2012, 11:14:42 AM |
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what made you change ur mind?
i wanted a refund because i am afraid that bfl is not the first on the market and i think that i wont be able to mine back my price of the gear.
So, your going to quit mining? i have quit a while ago and wanted to restart with bfl asic's but i dont see any sense in it when i loose money over it. i think its better to just buy coins. (this also saves me from discussions with my wife)
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October 30, 2012, 11:18:04 AM |
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(this also saves me from discussions with my wife)
Yep, not a trivial reason.
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
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October 30, 2012, 11:48:37 AM |
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what made you change ur mind?
i wanted a refund because i am afraid that bfl is not the first on the market and i think that i wont be able to mine back my price of the gear.
So, your going to quit mining? i have quit a while ago and wanted to restart with bfl asic's but i dont see any sense in it when i loose money over it. i think its better to just buy coins. (this also saves me from discussions with my wife) a GOOD REASON TO DITCH THE WOMAN... KIDDING.. bUYING AND SELLING IS A VERY GOOD ALTERNATIVE INDEED...
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October 30, 2012, 01:48:41 PM |
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If panic, panic first.
What if shipment is delayed to Jan 1013? Feb? March? And many, many people want refunds. Will BFL be able do this? My bet is: No. They don't have that amount of money left ...
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October 30, 2012, 02:04:33 PM |
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a GOOD REASON TO DITCH THE WOMAN... KIDDING.. bUYING AND SELLING IS A VERY GOOD ALTERNATIVE INDEED... STOP YELLING AT ME!!
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October 30, 2012, 03:57:27 PM |
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Good luck flower! I know you to be honorable from our work on bithopper.
I placed a pre-order with BFL, but something caused me to hesitate prior to paying. Then after hours of searching through archives here and elsewhere I determined I couldn't order with them and instead went elsewhere. Sure glad I did, but if I'd gone through with it then, I'd probably be making the same decision you are now.
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October 30, 2012, 05:20:05 PM |
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Good Luck to you and thank you for sharing your experience with us.
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October 30, 2012, 07:12:01 PM |
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I don't want a refund, I just want my shiny new hardware.
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October 30, 2012, 07:12:33 PM |
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If panic, panic first.
What if shipment is delayed to Jan 1013? Feb? March? And many, many people want refunds. Will BFL be able do this? My bet is: No. They don't have that amount of money left ...
Their official policy is pretty clear: Payments made for pre-orders of ASIC based products now under development should be considered non-refundable.
So far, few people have been requesting refunds. That's going to change as more and more delays happen.
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October 30, 2012, 07:35:54 PM |
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If panic, panic first.
What if shipment is delayed to Jan 1013? Feb? March? And many, many people want refunds. Will BFL be able do this? My bet is: No. They don't have that amount of money left ...
Their official policy is pretty clear: Payments made for pre-orders of ASIC based products now under development should be considered non-refundable.
So far, few people have been requesting refunds. That's going to change as more and more delays happen. Well given OP's avatar we all know he's a plant
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October 30, 2012, 07:49:20 PM Last edit: October 30, 2012, 08:50:06 PM by ZenInTexas |
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I didn't want to post this publicly in the off chance it would increase refund requests, and push more FUD onto BFL. But, since there was one post already, I figured what the heck. I requested a refund from BFL during the first week of October and received it soon after. I had paid BFL via paypal, so I was refunded the money via paypal, and paypal in-turn credited the original credit card that was used to pay BFL. My order was a pre-order of a Single -> SC upgrade. The reason for doing so because I needed the money, so much so I am also in the process of selling a BFL single. I made the difficult decision to terminate the BFL SC pre-order based on the following additional logic: - The purchase was a day or so near the end of the 60 day paypal dispute window. And based on what I read in the BFL FAQ "be considered non-refundable until products begin shipping or 1 January 2013, whichever is earlier.", I didn't want to risk having my refund denied and not being able to use paypal's dispute process. I took this FAQ statement very seriously. If I requested a refund after the 60 day window, and they refused, then the funds would most likely be tied up with no chance of winning a paypal dispute.
- If it wasn't delivered before block 210000, I felt the previously assumed ROI would be in question - estimated current block reward reduction is 3rd week of Nov
- In recent days, the number of ASICs pre-orders (BLF + others) seemed to be growing geometrically, which I had not expected, again affecting difficulty, and thus ROI - making the delivery more of a lottery win than an investment.
Since cancelling, I have followed BFL's information faucet. Ie, Inaba & Jody's release of bits of news, both here and on their own support forum. The photos of PCBs with place holder chips, were interesting. Based on my previous work with mixed signal ASICs, plus what my gut tells me, I think they are serious about getting an ASIC product out. I would guess they are just as anxious to ship as any of the pre-order folks are to receive. But, as they say...stuff happens.
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October 30, 2012, 09:24:31 PM |
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So far, few people have been requesting refunds. That's going to change as more and more delays happen they start shipping.
FTFY.
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October 31, 2012, 02:25:30 AM |
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Thanks for cancelling your order......LOL. One less to delay my order.
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October 31, 2012, 03:17:21 AM |
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Thanks for cancelling your order......LOL. One less to delay my order.
And less difficulty :p
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November 01, 2012, 02:34:47 PM |
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Thanks for cancelling your order......LOL. One less to delay my order.
And less difficulty :p I do wonder how much of the blatant FUD around here is just an attempt to keep the difficulty down by people either heavily invested in gpu or in the new asics...
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flower1024 (OP)
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November 01, 2012, 02:39:41 PM |
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Thanks for cancelling your order......LOL. One less to delay my order.
And less difficulty :p I do wonder how much of the blatant FUD around here is just an attempt to keep the difficulty down by people either heavily invested in gpu or in the new asics... i think you are right
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