Who will win WW3?

[Losvienleg]

Sure but in the end they would lose their support and then a good old siege would finish them and starve them to death :-/

Oh your talking about that. It's really different. My grandfather was in the Resistance and told me a lot of things about the Liberation. Imagine a country that suffered for 5 years and without any Justice instituion working. There was no justice, so the people made it themselves, and the people Justice is mostly revenge.
I don't think it was a mistake, it was a necessity. It was to purge the hate and the pain of France. It was not glorious, but it couldn't be avoided. For a few days there was no police, no army, how could have De Gaulle be able to enforce the law in the whole country while crushing the last German ligns?

I don't see what you're refering to by "other mistakes". De Gaulle was not perfect, but he was by far the best leader France had since Napoleon.

I didn't know where you lived, but where my grand-father grew up, all was cool. Even if he didn't agree with the actual government, it was the legitimate government chose by the people. If I killed Flamby, and stupid neo-collabo pro-socialist, I would go to jail, but what's good is that I would maybe left it after 7 months ... Our Justice institutions aren't working. If someone enter in my house with a gun, I can't kill him if it did not shot on me before ! What the fuck ?! Policemen are frightened to use their weapons against savage ZUP racailles. Firefighters receive rocks on their head and then they got blamed because they did not helped them.

de Gaulle, the best since Napoléon ?! Tu rigoles j'espère ! What de Gaulle did so far : creation of the Vème République, which is the worst, and the lose of all our colonies ! I wouldn't call him a great president then ...

Our Justice institution are perfectly fine and in the case your giving you wouldn't go to prison, you would be judged innocent because of legitime defense, some cases like this already happened and there was no jailtime. The law is here to protect the citizen in broad cases but very perticular cases like the one you're giving are judged by a citizen jury which wouldn't find you guilty

Ok seems like I see the problem, you're an old conservateur and I'm a progressist Socialist (a real socialist, me confonds pas avec ces sous merdes du PS qui se disent de Gauche alors qu'ils sont encore plus à droite que Sarkozy qui est pourtant quasiment aussi à droite que Marine!!!)
De Gaulle created the V which was the best that could be done given current technology (though it's totally shit now and should be replace) he was a visionnaire and gave us energy independance but also fought to regain our political status and independance. He gave us enough power to be side by side with USA and refuse OTAN. He built the EU and hence the century of peace that followed.
He lost the colonies? The colonies were already lost since WWI!!! We used the colonies in WWI like fresh meat without ever rewarding them. If we wanted to keep the colonies we should have let them as French official regions after WWI giving French citizenship and same rights after. After all, they had the duties, why not giving them the rights?

Like you will be suprised to I don't dislike your side. I only hate two parties, the Front National and the PS. I still see the PS as a leftist party, but more center-left than true leftist. The same goes for the UMP (quel nom à la con Les Républicains, ils n'auraient pas pu prendre un truc du genre Parti Républicain, ce que je dis ne veux rien dire pour quelqu'un qui n'est pas français), Les Républicains, which is a center-right party. Front National is a right party, and there's no real far-right party.

In the case of the thief, if you have a weapon, you're already a rebel, since this sould be avoided at any cost to let our unefficient Police Municipale protect us ! Now let's say that the guy who came to stole you is black, and wasn't armed, like you. He takes a chair to protect himself against you and you think that he'll beat you, and this is you who beat him and you pop his eye. Then YOU go  to jail because you're a bad racist that injuried the poor hungry thief.

You can't give the colonies the same statut as a French region, because then they could emmigrate to France, where the life is by far better, and then we're screwed up again ...

Ah ooooooooooooooooooook!
You're an American in fact ^^

So you would dominate a region and use the people and the ressources in there without giving them the same right as the metropolitan citizens?
And you think that immigration is a real threat I bet xD

Non, putain, je ne suis pas un Amerloque !

I have nothing against modernasing the African countries, why wouldn't we ? However, at this time this wasn't the case, so this was what would have happened.

What do you define as immigration ? Refugees or "les migrants" or the common immigrants ? Also, you've only reacted about one line of my post, there's still the others !

[mrhelpful]

There was a recent documentary on not exactly ww 3 situation.. but the existing cold war that held at a stand off with russia.

And its been involved into something else, since it wasnt really resolved.

Heres what I saw on the cold war 2.0 looks like straight from ground zero by vice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkW4eW7TMvM

[bryant.coleman]

I know the only winner of a WW3 and it would be Europe. Europe is protected by France nuclear weapons, able to nuke any country in the world. And Europe isn't an interesting target because there is absolutely no natural ressources of interest here. It means it's fucking dangerous and you wouldn't earn anything important. So nobody will attack Europe =)

Europe will be completely destroyed if a World War occurs in the future. The reason is that Russia is likely to nuke Europe, if NATO decides to invade them. Nuking the Americans will be difficult, so the Russians are likely to shower their nuclear bombs on the NATO member nations in Europe instead. Turkey might also get nuked.

[clangtrump]

I'm gonna vote for Russia and china but how many more damage and effects shall the people suffer? why are we at war? Economically? which country is greater?who's gonna conquer who? We are just going back to the old times.

[bitsmichel]

I know the only winner of a WW3 and it would be Europe. Europe is protected by France nuclear weapons, able to nuke any country in the world. And Europe isn't an interesting target because there is absolutely no natural ressources of interest here. It means it's fucking dangerous and you wouldn't earn anything important. So nobody will attack Europe =)

Europe will be completely destroyed if a World War occurs in the future. The reason is that Russia is likely to nuke Europe, if NATO decides to invade them. Nuking the Americans will be difficult, so the Russians are likely to shower their nuclear bombs on the NATO member nations in Europe instead. Turkey might also get nuked.

They'd lose $292 billion exports, $169 billion exports and Moscow would be gone. Europe has nukes and chemical weapons all over the world. Both Europe and Russia would be in a terrible state.

[Losvienleg]

No one will nuke no one. If you have a powerful weapon that the otehr guy doesn't have, you go ! But if he has the same, and can moreover do worst, you won't use it.

[electronicash]

I'm gonna vote for Russia and china but how many more damage and effects shall the people suffer? why are we at war? Economically? which country is greater?who's gonna conquer who? We are just going back to the old times.

Its mostly for resources. China has invaded lots of islands claiming they once own them since time. China has billions of people and they need to feed them all so they now need food on the seas and particularly fresh AIR as well. They're is polluted that they need to use gas mask when roaming the city.

[poptok1]

If its really a world war, then I think its overwhelmingly likely we will see the collapse of civilization as we know it, if not the end of human life on the planet.  Start with the disruption of world oil traffic and world food traffic and knock down the energy grid ... where do you think it will go from there?
War is not about rational behavior, and if history teaches us about war it teaches us that the consequences are usually worse than we expect and that it is very hard to limit and control.
There are no winners, we all loose.

[Losvienleg]

If its really a world war, then I think its overwhelmingly likely we will see the collapse of civilization as we know it, if not the end of human life on the planet.  Start with the disruption of world oil traffic and world food traffic and knock down the energy grid ... where do you think it will go from there?
War is not about rational behavior, and if history teaches us about war it teaches us that the consequences are usually worse than we expect and that it is very hard to limit and control.
There are no winners, we all loose.

Please mate, don't tell such bullshit ! The USA won the WW2, there's a winner. And their will be one here too. There's always a winner in a war.

[bryant.coleman]

I'm gonna vote for Russia and china but how many more damage and effects shall the people suffer? why are we at war? Economically? which country is greater?who's gonna conquer who? We are just going back to the old times.

Its mostly for resources. China has invaded lots of islands claiming they once own them since time. China has billions of people and they need to feed them all so they now need food on the seas and particularly fresh AIR as well. They're is polluted that they need to use gas mask when roaming the city.

It is not economical to transport fresh air in massive quantities. So the only alternative is to close down the polluting industries and clamp down on the vehicle pollution. That is why China is gradually phasing out gasoline with the less polluting natural gas. Also, they are moving many of the polluting industries away from the major cities.

And talking about the South China Sea islands, although the Chinese claim all of the Spratly Islands and the Paracel Islands as their own, they haven't imposed full control over all of them yet. Some of the islands in the Spratlies are still controlled by other nations, such as Philippines and Taiwan.

[McDonalds5]

Saudis Want To Arm Syrian Rebels With Anti-Air Missiles To Counter Russia

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/saudis-want-to-arm-syrian-rebels-with-anti-air-missiles-1760629284

[electronicash]

I'm gonna vote for Russia and china but how many more damage and effects shall the people suffer? why are we at war? Economically? which country is greater?who's gonna conquer who? We are just going back to the old times.

Its mostly for resources. China has invaded lots of islands claiming they once own them since time. China has billions of people and they need to feed them all so they now need food on the seas and particularly fresh AIR as well. They're is polluted that they need to use gas mask when roaming the city.

It is not economical to transport fresh air in massive quantities. So the only alternative is to close down the polluting industries and clamp down on the vehicle pollution. That is why China is gradually phasing out gasoline with the less polluting natural gas. Also, they are moving many of the polluting industries away from the major cities.

And talking about the South China Sea islands, although the Chinese claim all of the Spratly Islands and the Paracel Islands as their own, they haven't imposed full control over all of them yet. Some of the islands in the Spratlies are still controlled by other nations, such as Philippines and Taiwan.

yeah? Wait awhile.

They already have military base on these island and they're the only who have tank and hellipads on these island. who do you think controlled them when all the boats passing by are being harassed to stay away from the island. there were iamges that they also have missile silo there.

[bryant.coleman]

They already have military base on these island and they're the only who have tank and hellipads on these island. who do you think controlled them when all the boats passing by are being harassed to stay away from the island. there were iamges that they also have missile silo there.

Who is stopping the other nations from building their own military and naval stations in the islands under their control? If countries such as Philippines and Vietnam lack the necessary finances for such a measure, then the Americans should build bases on their behalf. I would have liked the UN to resolve this issue, but of late the United Nations have become a toothless organization.

[xslugx]

I know the only winner of a WW3 and it would be Europe. Europe is protected by France nuclear weapons, able to nuke any country in the world. And Europe isn't an interesting target because there is absolutely no natural ressources of interest here. It means it's fucking dangerous and you wouldn't earn anything important. So nobody will attack Europe =)

Europe will be completely destroyed if a World War occurs in the future. The reason is that Russia is likely to nuke Europe, if NATO decides to invade them. Nuking the Americans will be difficult, so the Russians are likely to shower their nuclear bombs on the NATO member nations in Europe instead. Turkey might also get nuked.

Are you dumb? Why would they?
What would Russia win nuking Europe? They would only get nuked back by France! I don't exactly call that a good news!

[xslugx]

If its really a world war, then I think its overwhelmingly likely we will see the collapse of civilization as we know it, if not the end of human life on the planet.  Start with the disruption of world oil traffic and world food traffic and knock down the energy grid ... where do you think it will go from there?
War is not about rational behavior, and if history teaches us about war it teaches us that the consequences are usually worse than we expect and that it is very hard to limit and control.
There are no winners, we all loose.

Please mate, don't tell such bullshit ! The USA won the WW2, there's a winner. And their will be one here too. There's always a winner in a war.

For sure USA won WWII... The lost nearly no soldier or ressources and fought only at the very end after earning lots of money by selling weapons but when you see how they totally destroyed the European economic and culture...

[Losvienleg]

If its really a world war, then I think its overwhelmingly likely we will see the collapse of civilization as we know it, if not the end of human life on the planet.  Start with the disruption of world oil traffic and world food traffic and knock down the energy grid ... where do you think it will go from there?
War is not about rational behavior, and if history teaches us about war it teaches us that the consequences are usually worse than we expect and that it is very hard to limit and control.
There are no winners, we all loose.

Please mate, don't tell such bullshit ! The USA won the WW2, there's a winner. And their will be one here too. There's always a winner in a war.

For sure USA won WWII... The lost nearly no soldier or ressources and fought only at the very end after earning lots of money by selling weapons but when you see how they totally destroyed the European economic and culture...

That's why they won ! They imposed their domination to the World. Hopefully, now their masterness is declining, and I truly believe the next ruling superpower will be an European country !

[jonathgb25]

They already have military base on these island and they're the only who have tank and hellipads on these island. who do you think controlled them when all the boats passing by are being harassed to stay away from the island. there were iamges that they also have missile silo there.

Who is stopping the other nations from building their own military and naval stations in the islands under their control? If countries such as Philippines and Vietnam lack the necessary finances for such a measure, then the Americans should build bases on their behalf. I would have liked the UN to resolve this issue, but of late the United Nations have become a toothless organization.

That will be the future for our country(Philippines) and I hate that because our government put a very small portion of funds into military and when they buy military equipments, they will use it as method of corrupting money from money of people and that make us piss. It is revealed when one of the biggest corrupt people(Janet Napoles) partnered with the majority of senators, congressmans, mayors, vice mayors and other crocodiles to spend their funds into her fake NGOs and they will buy secondhand military equipment at full fair market invoice price of those equipments. We only hope now for USA and other allied countries if there's a war that will happen.

[Betwrong]

If its really a world war, then I think its overwhelmingly likely we will see the collapse of civilization as we know it, if not the end of human life on the planet.  Start with the disruption of world oil traffic and world food traffic and knock down the energy grid ... where do you think it will go from there?
War is not about rational behavior, and if history teaches us about war it teaches us that the consequences are usually worse than we expect and that it is very hard to limit and control.
There are no winners, we all loose.

Please mate, don't tell such bullshit ! The USA won the WW2, there's a winner. And their will be one here too. There's always a winner in a war.

For sure USA won WWII... The lost nearly no soldier or ressources and fought only at the very end after earning lots of money by selling weapons but when you see how they totally destroyed the European economic and culture...

C'mon! Why is that sarcasm? Of course USA did not win the WW2 alone on their own but they did make a huge contribution in the victory.

And how exactly did they destroy the European culture? ... and the European economic Man, I don't follow you, sorry.

[Losvienleg]

If its really a world war, then I think its overwhelmingly likely we will see the collapse of civilization as we know it, if not the end of human life on the planet.  Start with the disruption of world oil traffic and world food traffic and knock down the energy grid ... where do you think it will go from there?
War is not about rational behavior, and if history teaches us about war it teaches us that the consequences are usually worse than we expect and that it is very hard to limit and control.
There are no winners, we all loose.

Please mate, don't tell such bullshit ! The USA won the WW2, there's a winner. And their will be one here too. There's always a winner in a war.

For sure USA won WWII... The lost nearly no soldier or ressources and fought only at the very end after earning lots of money by selling weapons but when you see how they totally destroyed the European economic and culture...

C'mon! Why is that sarcasm? Of course USA did not win the WW2 alone on their own but they did make a huge contribution in the victory.

And how exactly did they destroy the European culture? ... and the European economic Man, I don't follow you, sorry.

People is becoming dumb in Europe. They use English words, they buy all the shit that come from the United States to look like the latest bitch. Culture destroyed.

France was the world ruling power for a long time. Now, it listens to the USA because we have a faggot government. Men there are now women. I'm sure half of them wouldn't like to go to war.

[bryant.coleman]

That will be the future for our country(Philippines) and I hate that because our government put a very small portion of funds into military and when they buy military equipments, they will use it as method of corrupting money from money of people and that make us piss. It is revealed when one of the biggest corrupt people(Janet Napoles) partnered with the majority of senators, congressmans, mayors, vice mayors and other crocodiles to spend their funds into her fake NGOs and they will buy secondhand military equipment at full fair market invoice price of those equipments. We only hope now for USA and other allied countries if there's a war that will happen.

What will happen if the Americans refuse to get involved in a conflict with China? Also, you have to ask yourself whether it is worth defending a few coral reefs against a major bully like China, at the cost of hundreds of lives and millions of USD in tax money. The Vietnamese tried the same, and they were not that successful. Ever heard about the Battle of the Paracel Islands?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Paracel_Islands