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February 29, 2016, 12:28:35 PM |
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Seems like no one really care about a real debate here but well...
Europe is the only winner of a potential WW3 as long as you see it. You can take it in any way you want, it's gonna be EU master at the end.
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mOgliE
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February 29, 2016, 12:32:33 PM |
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And what will they do with their 1.3 billions of soldier against a few thousands nuclear heads?
Using nukes against a combined force of China and Russia? That will be suicidal. USA + France + United Kingdom + Israel + Pakistan is in the possession of close to 6,000 nuclear warheads. The most powerful nuclear weapon ever built (Tsar Bomba) was capable of incinerating everything within 100 km of its radius. That gives a maximum effective surface area of 30,000 sq.km per weapon. Now the question is how many of these nukes the NATO will be able to use in a relatively short time (say 4 to 6 hours). Even if they manage to use all the 6,000 weapons, only around 1% or 2% are likely to land in Russia / China, as the air-defenses are very advanced. That means that around 10% of the surface area of Russia / China will be devoid of life. That might kill at the most 50% of their soldiers. But the remaining 50% will use nukes on the NATO nations, completely exterminating the life there. Each time I think you can't say anything more stupid or flawed you keep going. Please explain the point of air-defenses against nuclear weapons?
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arbitrage
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February 29, 2016, 01:12:07 PM |
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Seems like no one really care about a real debate here but well...
Europe is the only winner of a potential WW3 as long as you see it. You can take it in any way you want, it's gonna be EU master at the end.
I don't see Europe as a winner at any case. I expect major war (ignited by US In order to destroy Russia) Europe and Russia with Muslims. This is something that will happen in future maybe 20 years from now, by then Union will stop to exist anyway.
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mOgliE
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February 29, 2016, 01:40:58 PM |
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Seems like no one really care about a real debate here but well...
Europe is the only winner of a potential WW3 as long as you see it. You can take it in any way you want, it's gonna be EU master at the end.
I don't see Europe as a winner at any case. I expect major war (ignited by US In order to destroy Russia) Europe and Russia with Muslims. This is something that will happen in future maybe 20 years from now, by then Union will stop to exist anyway. Because nobody can hit the Europe without getting nuked back.
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February 29, 2016, 01:57:20 PM |
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Because nobody can hit the Europe without getting nuked back.
Europe doesn't have power, no unity (they have warheads) they will never find consensus even for some less important things and decisions. You can see this clearly from migrant crisis. Another major problem and EU is finished.
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mOgliE
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February 29, 2016, 01:59:37 PM |
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Because nobody can hit the Europe without getting nuked back.
Europe doesn't have power, no unity (they have warheads) they will never find consensus even for some less important things and decisions. You can see this clearly from migrant crisis. Another major problem and EU is finished. EU as a political strength maybe. But as a military alliance it's powerful enough.
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February 29, 2016, 02:22:29 PM |
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The poll is in favor of Russia as oppose to US but nobody is a winner in war especially if both sides are capable of destroying an entire country.
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February 29, 2016, 02:23:20 PM |
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EU as a political strength maybe. But as a military alliance it's powerful enough.
If you don't have political unity and consensus, forget about UNITY and military power. EU is just extended arm of US.But Germany have other plans and won't let further cooling of relations with Russia. So from start you don't have unity! If you think on Nato this is something different, Nato is US controlled entity.
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February 29, 2016, 08:10:52 PM |
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valta4065
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March 01, 2016, 09:34:21 AM |
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EU as a political strength maybe. But as a military alliance it's powerful enough.
If you don't have political unity and consensus, forget about UNITY and military power. EU is just extended arm of US.But Germany have other plans and won't let further cooling of relations with Russia. So from start you don't have unity! If you think on Nato this is something different, Nato is US controlled entity. Nato isn't important. What's important is that thx to France nuclear power EU can stay independant as much as they want.
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March 01, 2016, 09:53:08 AM |
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Nato isn't important. What's important is that thx to France nuclear power EU can stay independant as much as they want.
Ok it is important who have nuclear potential. But also if you don't have working rocket shield then you can't be presented as force in region. (That is why NATO is important) Russia is only real force in this European region. (Maybe Israel will emerge over time but they don't have enough soldiers.)
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March 01, 2016, 12:13:54 PM |
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I believe that if China involves in a world war soon, they will be the winners of course because they control the world economy with their goods so they can send defected goods to any country to harm their people easily. And do not forget about their manpower
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yugo23
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March 01, 2016, 12:19:53 PM |
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Nato isn't important. What's important is that thx to France nuclear power EU can stay independant as much as they want.
Ok it is important who have nuclear potential. But also if you don't have working rocket shield then you can't be presented as force in region. (That is why NATO is important) Russia is only real force in this European region. (Maybe Israel will emerge over time but they don't have enough soldiers.) What are you talking about? No one has such a thing!
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March 01, 2016, 07:24:36 PM |
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In WW2 when a plane landed on the wrong carrier, it was tradition to graffiti it thoroughly before sending it back.
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March 01, 2016, 07:31:49 PM |
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Each time I think you can't say anything more stupid or flawed you keep going.
Please explain the point of air-defenses against nuclear weapons?
Listen retard. Try Wikipedia or Google, and find out how a nuclear weapon is used. And next, try to find out what is an air-defense system and the types of air-defense systems which Russia is having. I believe that if China involves in a world war soon, they will be the winners of course because they control the world economy with their goods so they can send defected goods to any country to harm their people easily. And do not forget about their manpower
It is not that simple. China imports a lot of stuff, such as natural gas and petroleum. They also import a lot of iron ore and coal. Without the imports, their factories and metallurgical industries will be dead.
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March 01, 2016, 08:07:49 PM |
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Nato isn't important. What's important is that thx to France nuclear power EU can stay independant as much as they want.
Ok it is important who have nuclear potential. But also if you don't have working rocket shield then you can't be presented as force in region. (That is why NATO is important) Russia is only real force in this European region. (Maybe Israel will emerge over time but they don't have enough soldiers.) What are you talking about? No one has such a thing! To be very honest no one can predict anything because we do not know the intentions and power of NWO i mean new world order just wish this WW3 never happens because it will be a nuclear warfare which will destroy everything
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March 01, 2016, 11:02:25 PM |
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If anything instead of comparison who has what.
We need the two party to come together and ammend our faults and keep preventing something to happen. I just hope that the president whos coming into office can do this before this blows up in our face.
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Moloch
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March 01, 2016, 11:12:37 PM |
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How did 2 countries build 22,000 nukes? That is enough to carpet bomb the entire planet a dozen times, right?
China is the clear Victor in WW3 if they play their cards right
They just sit back, wait for America to self destruct financially or start WW3 with the Muslims... Then China swoops in and takes out what is left of the winner, conquering the globe
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mikehersh2
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March 02, 2016, 02:02:46 AM |
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Although i love my country, I'm gunna have to say that Russia and China will come up with that W. They both just have so much more weapanry and a larger military
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clangtrump
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March 02, 2016, 06:14:40 AM |
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Although i love my country, I'm gunna have to say that Russia and China will come up with that W. They both just have so much more weapanry and a larger military
If it's gonna happen and when it comes to training they got better amenities
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