Who will win WW3?

[bonski]

Yeah, I agree with you mate, all of us will lose when this world war III will occur soon. Because everyone is affected if this will happen. Lands will be destroyed by bombs, many people will die, especially babies they are the most affected ones when this war occur. But this war will definitely will happen soon.

You can only live with optimism or you end up in a sad world. It never has to happen as all the little questions can be negotiated before the alternative of going nuclear. States like North Korea are the really dangerous ones to look out for, like the "little man syndrome" where they feel the need to prove they can punch someone much bigger and cause a massive domino effect.

I know North Korea is a small country but it is a powerful one with its nuclear power that has been hidden for a long time and they tested it this year to scare their nearby countries that triggers and they were saying if WW3 happens soon they are ready on what will happen with this nation against nation war

[bryant.coleman]

If Russia supports terrorist groups, does usual thing it did during history. Today, supports ISIS, Pyd and Asad Dicta regyme. Bombs innocent Syrian civilians.

Parroting the same lie a hundred times will not convert it to truth. Yes. Russia support the PYD/YPG and the regime forces. That is because these two groups are the only viable ground forces against the Islamic State. At the same time, Erdogan and his fellow thugs are busy supplying arms and ammunition to the ISIS and the Al Nusra.

[magnific61]

If Russia supports terrorist groups, does usual thing it did during history. Today, supports ISIS, Pyd and Asad Dicta regyme. Bombs innocent Syrian civilians.

Parroting the same lie a hundred times will not convert it to truth. Yes. Russia support the PYD/YPG and the regime forces. That is because these two groups are the only viable ground forces against the Islamic State. At the same time, Erdogan and his fellow thugs are busy supplying arms and ammunition to the ISIS and the Al Nusra.

You lie while  blame me to say lies. Turkey never supported ISIS!  What the hell Russia  has in 5000 km away its border?  Moreover for protecting a dictator's regyme. Turkey has right to intervention to Syria because Syria is Turkey's neighbor and 3 million Syrian refugees are in Turkey. Why are they refugees?  Because Asad kills them. And Russia supports a murderer by bombing civilians. What you tell me!?

[arbitrage]

You lie while  blame me to say lies. Turkey never supported ISIS!  What the hell Russia  has in 5000 km away its border?  Moreover for protecting a dictator's regyme. Turkey has right to intervention to Syria because Syria is Turkey's neighbor and 3 million Syrian refugees are in Turkey. Why are they refugees?  Because Asad kills them. And Russia supports a murderer by bombing civilians. What you tell me!?

https://www.quora.com/Is-Turkey-supporting-ISIS-If-so-why
https://www.rt.com/news/327413-syria-turkey-ottoman-empire/
http://www.globalresearch.ca/more-evidence-of-turkeys-support-of-the-islamic-state-isis-in-liaison-with-us-and-nato/5500916

Turkey helping those ISIS fighter from the beginning and this know whole world.
I don't know why this hurt you so much?
It is evident that Turkey has no right to intervene because they will fight there against Kurdish fighters.

[arbitrage]

From the beginning those rebels were ISIS fighters.
US and Turkey helping them from the beginning in fighting against Bashar.
This was a plan to create chaos and then intervene (Russia has said STOP) same story as it was in Egypt and Libya.



If Turkey enters in Syria without Russian permission we could see war!
I believe Turkish people are smarter.

[magnific61]

From the beginning those rebels were ISIS fighters.
US and Turkey helping them from the beginning in fighting against Bashar.
This was a plan to create chaos and then intervene (Russia has said STOP) same story as it was in Egypt and Libya.



If Turkey enters in Syria without Russian permission we could see war!
I believe Turkish people are smarter.

Kurds have hope to have their own land in Syria and for that the can make cooperation even with satan. Kurdish groups Pyd/Ypg are branches of PKK terrorist organisation and they fight for Asad forces against to other dissident groups included Isis.
But at same time Isis also supports Asad forces. Russia bombs to dissident groups and civilians. Turkey only supports Syrian Turkmens and FSA (Free Syrian Army)
So, this caricature serves  a perceptional operation.

[magnific61]

Repeatly i tell you that Turkey never and never supported Isis. Since begining, Turkish Govenment says that Isis is not an Islamic Group.
Syria, is Turkey's neighbor and if there's a chaos in Syria, Turkey never can stay out.
Turkey has a good relation with Asad until he began killing civilian protesters. When protests began, Turkish Prime Minister (today's president) warned Asad for not to use violation on protestors. But Asad began killing own citizens. Then Turkey-Syria relations collapsed. Turkey began supporting some dissident groups when the armed struggle began. Those groups were FSA and Turkmen Forces. By the way Turkey supported Kurdish groups by giving them medical services for injured kurdish militants.
Turkey always has been beside of Syrian people by opening borders to Syrian refugees, by giving them accomodation, food and education opportunity.
Turkey wants that war to end and by founding a democratic system in Syria and those 3 million people in Turkey will able to go back their homes.
Turkey  already has a terror trouble for 30 years and how you can imagine or think that Turkey supports or helps a/any terrorist group?.
There's no good or bad terrorist. Terrorist is terrorist and terror has no any religion nor nation.
Turkey and Turkish people know it better than any of others

[arbitrage]

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Do you really believe to your government?
Would you go against Russia if Erdogan ask you to do so?

This is madness whole world talking about ISIS oil convoys going to Turkey,
 you can find actual videos how Russian plane drop bombs on convoy..

[magnific61]

If so, Russian war planes broke Turkish border for bombing Isis oil convoy? Argue that? 😀
Isis is an enemy for Turkish government and Turkish government too for Isis. They already declared their hostility. 
https://youtu.be/bP863ZVrn1U
Isis made the biggest suicide bombing attack in Ankara city and killed 108 people. If they would be friends why they did it?
Turkey doesn't need terrorist's money and friendship. Turkey only transfers and sells Northern Iraqi (Barzani's) oil. You may misunderstood.
By the way Russia bombed a convoy. That is right. But that convoy wasn't Isis oil convoy, it was Turkish civil  aid convoy for Syrian people and Russia killed 29 civilians by bombing that convoy.
And i ask you. Do you really believe your government?
Do you really believe that Russia is in Syria for humanity reasons?
Do you really believe that Russia bombs Isis?

[arbitrage]

Ok i won't argue about plane crash because i don't believe in official Turkish story.
How many times Turkey violated airspace of Grease? And yet they did not react this way.
" Turkey violated Greek airspace 2,244 times in 2014 alone"
https://www.rt.com/news/323429-greece-turkey-airspace-violations/

No im not Russian and i don't believe to its government, but they defending their interest and supporting Bashar
(They dont want another US military base in this region).

They are against ISIS! This is clear.
Why Turkey don't cooperate with Russia?

[criptix]

Ok i won't argue about plane crash because i don't believe in official Turkish story.
How many times Turkey violated airspace of Grease? And yet they did not react this way.
" Turkey violated Greek airspace 2,244 times in 2014 alone"
https://www.rt.com/news/323429-greece-turkey-airspace-violations/

No im not Russian and i don't believe to its government, but they defending their interest and supporting Bashar
(They dont want another US military base in this region).

They are against ISIS! This is clear.
Why Turkey don't cooperate with Russia?

Tell me how you can believe russian .gov especially putin a former KGB 

( yes you do - it is pretty obvious even if you say otherwise  )

[Betwrong]

Nobody will win WW3, everyone will lose. Nuclear bombs used on a mass scale will make most of the world uninhabitable and create vast amounts of sickness. That is the ultimate outcome and it's never glamorous.

Yes it is possible that the big states will use nuclear weapons in this war but IMO it is very unlikely. You know in the modern world everything is interweaved so much that bombing your enemy you might end up bombing your own children. I hope every government understands this and they won't use a nuclear weapon in any case.

[magnific61]

They dont want another US military base in this region).


[/quote]

Russia doesn't wat a US base in this region because it has.
Russia is in the region only for its profit.
Greece declared that it has expanded its glaucomas 12 miles but Turkey didn't recognized it. Because Greece has many, islands in Aegean Sea and if  glaucoma would be 12 miles, Turkey will not have navigation right in Aegean Sea. At the same time, Turkey has more seashore line in Aegean Sea more than Greece.
If you aren't,russian, please tell us your nationality and we will able to talk easier

[arbitrage]

Tell me how you can believe russian .gov especially putin a former KGB 

( yes you do - it is pretty obvious even if you say otherwise  )

I don't admire Putin but he is only person who can stop US global hegemonism.
Constant wars for democracy and human rights..This is Absurd.
We need cold war again. World must be halved on two sides.

You talking about kgb?
CIA standing behind many bad things happened in the world (and in US) lately..
Bin Laden, Al qaeda, Saddam Hussein are all creations of CIA.

[arbitrage]

Russia doesn't wat a US base in this region because it has.
Russia is in the region only for its profit.
Greece declared that it has expanded its glaucomas 12 miles but Turkey didn't recognized it. Because Greece has many, islands in Aegean Sea and if  glaucoma would be 12 miles, Turkey will not have navigation right in Aegean Sea. At the same time, Turkey has more seashore line in Aegean Sea more than Greece.
If you aren't,russian, please tell us your nationality and we will able to talk easier

I'm not Russian.
This have nothing to do with my nationality or with my religion or music i like..
Those are global games and i just playing my bets on Russia and China because they they are less bad than US.
Please don't be angry this is open discussion.

[criptix]

Tell me how you can believe russian .gov especially putin a former KGB 

( yes you do - it is pretty obvious even if you say otherwise  )

I don't admire Putin but he is only person who can stop US global hegemonism.
Constant wars for democracy and human rights..This is Absurd.
We need cold war again. World must be halved on two sides.

You talking about kgb?
CIA standing behind many bad things happened in the world (and in US) lately..
Bin Laden, Al qaeda, Saddam Hussein are all creations of CIA.

Can you please ask google how many wars we had between 1945 and 1990?
Atleast you dont think USA is a freedombringer like russia.

[yugo23]

Tell me how you can believe russian .gov especially putin a former KGB 

( yes you do - it is pretty obvious even if you say otherwise  )

Well you do believe the USA .gov no?

[arbitrage]

Tell me how you can believe russian .gov especially putin a former KGB 

( yes you do - it is pretty obvious even if you say otherwise  )

Well you do believe the USA .gov no?

Do you believe that Bin Laden and his bunch of robbers were conducted 9/11?
National debt and in US has critical value, do you believe your government?
I don't believe to no one i see we are heading to chaos in whole world.

[yugo23]

Tell me how you can believe russian .gov especially putin a former KGB 

( yes you do - it is pretty obvious even if you say otherwise  )

Well you do believe the USA .gov no?

Do you believe that Bin Laden and his bunch of robbers were conducted 9/11?
National debt and in US has critical value, do you believe your government?
I don't believe to no one i see we are heading to chaos in whole world.

Never said that. Just said it was as absurd to believe USA as to believe Russia.

I'm not American but sure I won't trust a government who said Kennedy assassination was a one man job thanks to a magical bullet.

[criptix]

Tell me how you can believe russian .gov especially putin a former KGB 

( yes you do - it is pretty obvious even if you say otherwise  )

Well you do believe the USA .gov no?

It is hard to believe US .gov but it is even harder to believe russian .gov