Launching the first BTC.CFD Investor Fund

[bccasino]

Dear fellow bitcoin lovers and investors

I am writing this post to see if we could setup and operate an investor group that would communally
invest into CFDs (Contract For Difference) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract_for_difference

Introduction
The BTC.CFDs investor club is a bitcoin to fiat currency investment funds, open to investors to successfully
invest and trade in CFDs. One of my very best friends who is based in London has been actively trading
CFDs for the last 5 years within a high profile CFD brokerage investment company. Being involved in this
company gives him full access to the various platforms and its “insiders” information to successfully day
trade CFDs. CFDs being derivative investments with high potential return they require cash reserves to
succeed and make high profits with minimum capital exposure. Typically only a very small portion of the
funds available (around 20%) are invested in short term contracts such as indices, currencies and/or
commodities. The remaining balance of the funds are needed to sustain the potential volatility and
margin calls.

Portfolio
Being a day trader he specialized in EUR/USD, DAX30, FTS500. These will be the only contracts traded
during the market open hours. All positions will be liquidated at the very last during the markets extended
hours.

Targeted Return on Investment
4-8% per month
1-2% per week

A yearly cap of 100% is introduced. Should the funds grow more than 100% per annum the remaining
percentage (over 100%) will then be kept as managing fees by the day trader.

How to join the club
We target a total investment of 10'000 BTC at current valuation ca. 100'000 USD. The minimum needed
capital investment to launch the investor club is of 5'000 BTC. This amount is the minimum required to be
able to open a real money trading account at this brokerage house. This is also the minimum amount
needed to place CFD contracts in the targeted markets and have the required margin as security.
Previous to the launch in January 2013 we will be collecting the investment intend (btc.cfd club
membership) within the bitcoin community. The minimum investment per member is 100BTC or a multiple
of 100 with no maximum. A maximum of 999 members will be accepted into the club (100'000 BTC
minimum required investment divided by 100BTC less “me” equal 999 members.
The minimum investment period is 90 days. The dividends will be paid every 30 days on the last Sunday
of each month. The membership can be canceled at earliest after three months (end of march 2013).
Canceling the membership is equivalent to returning the membership capital investment.
Please note that the bitcoins will be converted to USD and back to Bitcoins using mt.gox last price (or any
other exchange that would like to work as the official btc.cfd investor club exchanger).

How to withdraw
You can request a withdraw anytime after the minimum investment period of 3 months. The payments are
processed and paid every Sundays after the profits as been calculated and paid out. Requests are made
by PM to my address with the information needed to withdraw your BTCs and close your membership.

Investor Profile
You are a very high-risk investor. You can tolerate substantial fluctuations in the value of your investment
in the short-term in anticipation of the highest possible return at maturity. You are prepared to
aggressively take on higher risk in pursuit of your investment goals. You are comfortable with a high
volatility investment which can provide substantial 'higher returns than any other standard investment.

Understanding the risks
If you buy a financial asset such as a share, you gain exposure to its upward and downward movements.
When you trade CFDs, you provide a deposit to gain full exposure to the underlying asset’s movements.
This means it is possible to lose more than your initial deposit when you trade CFDs.
Based on my friends knowledge we will risk a maximum of 30-40% of the deposited member funds. This
will also be your maximum risk. Based on a 100BTC investment your maximum loss would be 40BTC.

Summary

• BTC.CFD Investor club starts 1st of January 2013
• Investments may be made in multiples of 100BTC
• Withdrawals may be made in multiples of 100BTC
• Returns will be paid monthly to reduce overhead costs - no automatic reinvestment
• Target return 2% per week caped at 100% per annum
• Minimum weekly return 0%
• Minimum investing period 3 months
• Signing period for the membership is from today's date till 15th of December 2012

Sign up Phase
For now just drop your interest and investment amount during the sign up period in this thread. Please take this seriously and commit to
it. Should we secure commitments for the minimum required amount of 5000 BTC by December 15th you
will be sent a unique depositing address and will be ask to supply a unique return address. You will then
have 5 days to make your deposit or your membership application will be canceled thus giving the chance
for another applicant on the waiting list to join the club.

The bitcoins will then be converted into EUR or USD and used to make the wire to the chosen broker. The
btc.cfd investor club will then be officially up and running.

Feel free to ask as many questions as you like. I will be happy to answer them.

All feedback, critics and improvements ideas are welcome. We should all share the same goal to make this club the most successful investor club in the world!

Thanks for your interest.

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[stochastic]

Looks interesting.  We just need some public identification and any regulatory documents.

[bccasino]

Looks interesting.  We just need some public identification and any regulatory documents.

Sure we need to work this part out. To our believing we could register as an investor club in the UK. US registration won't be possible as CFDs are not aloud to be traded there.

Obviously privacy for the members is needed. I don't think that ID copies will ever be required for members.

As soon as interest is shown we will seek legal advise on how to best legally run this club.

If you have any concrete proposal please feel free to share them.

[majorddf]

I think he meant that you need to provide proof of you are, you know, to track you down if you run off with the investment pot

Don't take it personally, lots of scams going round of late.

[bccasino]

I think he meant that you need to provide proof of you are, you know, to track you down if you run off with the investment pot

Don't take it personally, lots of scams going round of late.

Yes, that part I understood but we also need to make sure that we will have a legal framework in place so that funds can't get blocked by the broker firm or at the exchangers.

I know that the current ongoing scams won't help start this club but I see it as an opportunity to show that not everything bitcoin is a scam.

For those that don't know me. I've been in charge of operating the BC casino for over one year now. I'm proud that we mostly get great feedback from players. I'm also proud that we never had any unresolved complains and that I've never been accused of being a scammer or to run a scam operation. I will not change my code of conduct and won't risk to lose my reputation nor the one from the casino we operate.

I personally saw what kind of return are possible trading CFDs and understand that to be successful you need to have a substantial amount of reserve. This is were the idea of the club kicked in. With a minimum investment of 100 BTC per member we could all participate in what I believe is a great investment opportunity. I personally don't have the needed 50'000 to 100'000 USD to put in but would love to get involved in this high potential investment.

[MPOE-PR]

Here's a better idea: do this publicly for a few years, but using your own money. (Yes, the fact that you can't do that is all the signal that you shouldn't be doing this that you could ever possibly need).

[bccasino]

Here a trade info I just received from my friend: Dax will go up to 7320 or more then close tonight at 7292.
Current dax @ 12:05 : 7305
Trading strategy: call with limit at 7320 then buy put with limit 7295

[bccasino]

Here's a better idea: do this publicly for a few years, but using your own money. (Yes, the fact that you can't do that is all the signal that you shouldn't be doing this that you could ever possibly need).

I understand what you're saying but isn't this the exact purpose of an investor club?

[bccasino]

Here a trade info I just received from my friend: Dax will go up to 7320 or more then close tonight at 7292.
Current dax @ 12:05 : 7305
Trading strategy: call with limit at 7320 then buy put with limit 7295

Follow up:

This investment would have returned a 133% profit within 6 days. The needed margin call during this period was 83% (117 pips) well within our margin reserved. Bare also in mind that the proposed strategy could have been improved during market hours thus considerably reducing the margin calls.



As you can see substantial winnings are possible when margins calls can be sustained.

I hope that some of you will find it as interesting as I do.

I strongly believe that starting this club and spreading the risk between multiple members is the way to go to be successful in this particular kind of investment.

Cheers
Brian

[bccasino]

new proposed trade:
buy dax call now @7260 sell within the next two weeks @7500 or above

[stochastic]

Here's a better idea: do this publicly for a few years, but using your own money. (Yes, the fact that you can't do that is all the signal that you shouldn't be doing this that you could ever possibly need).

I understand what you're saying but isn't this the exact purpose of an investor club?

Most investor clubs actually delegate responsibilities to multiple people in the club.  There becomes a board of directors and others that might do research on other investment strategies and then present their findings.  What you are proposing is an investment fund.

[bccasino]

Here's a better idea: do this publicly for a few years, but using your own money. (Yes, the fact that you can't do that is all the signal that you shouldn't be doing this that you could ever possibly need).

I understand what you're saying but isn't this the exact purpose of an investor club?

Most investor clubs actually delegate responsibilities to multiple people in the club.  There becomes a board of directors and others that might do research on other investment strategies and then present their findings.  What you are proposing is an investment fund.

You are absolutely right. We therefore decided to setup a private fund for this purpose and started the legal process for it.

[bccasino]

hi guys

just a quick follow up that our last prediction finally hit with 10 days delay due to holiday banking and other market uncertainty but who cares as the prediction returned an amazing 786% (bought dax call @ 7260 on 8th of november and sold today @ 7526 = 266 pips).



i'm extremely happy about this result as i privately invested some small money in this trade. my next trade is already running!

anyway as I can see that no bitcoiner has real interest in this kind of investment we will discontinue this offer.

cheers, brian