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October 28, 2015, 08:20:27 PM
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What happened:: The user Fraxinus had taken out a loan of 0.02 from me. It's been more than a month since his doing so.

Scammers Profile Link: Fraxinus

Reference Link: Loan Request

Amount Scammed: 0.02 BTC

Payment Method: Bitcoin

Proof of Payment:
Loan Amount:0.02 BTC
Collateral: none
Duration of Loan: 3 days
Reason:An order I have to make
Repayment Amount: 0.023 btc
Bitcoin Address:184GZennhfxZGiLtdEY5tQJWKkjYXJpNif


Loan sent.
TXID:97c41ae278b56cc7d922e7a2eb7d3014ee395541203a44745ca419d3f094cebf
https://blockchain.info/tx/97c41ae278b56cc7d922e7a2eb7d3014ee395541203a44745ca419d3f094cebf

PM/Chat Logs: http://prnt.sc/8wf12c (my messages, large image)
http://prntscr.com/8wf1t4 (Fraxinus' single message to me)

Additional Notes: After stating that he would pay a partial amount of the loan, nothing was sent.

Loan Amount:0.02 BTC
Collateral: none
Duration of Loan: 3 days
Reason:An order I have to make
Repayment Amount: 0.023 btc
Bitcoin Address:184GZennhfxZGiLtdEY5tQJWKkjYXJpNif


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October 28, 2015, 08:36:11 PM
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Seems he got a negative trust from master-p already, lets see if he tries contacting you after this. Sad though, that he ruined his hero account for 0.02
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October 28, 2015, 09:42:06 PM
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Who sent you 53914a3fac94780cecb74b0e77b76525c0ec5baf57656218b6e45e503766d446

It looks like that txid was sent 2 days after the loan was made (it was due in 3 days), and it was for the exact repayment amount.
It looks like that transaction was from this person, or at least it was claimed to be at the time.

You really should provide each borrower with a new/unique repayment address so it is very clear that it was them that sent the repayment.
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October 28, 2015, 09:53:37 PM
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Who sent you 53914a3fac94780cecb74b0e77b76525c0ec5baf57656218b6e45e503766d446

It looks like that txid was sent 2 days after the loan was made (it was due in 3 days), and it was for the exact repayment amount.
It looks like that transaction was from this person, or at least it was claimed to be at the time.

You really should provide each borrower with a new/unique repayment address so it is very clear that it was them that sent the repayment.
If truly necessary, I would say that they could sign an address with it. But, I agree with you.

Will do so next time.

EDIT: Fraxinus admitted in PM to not being able to pay the loan (at least not fully), so it definitely could not have been him sending that transaction.
Also, a pretty big indicator could be that nickaizoku's address is the same as the address that sent the bitcoins.

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October 28, 2015, 09:58:34 PM
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Well the fact that one of them claimed to have sent the payment at the time and the other one did not makes me fairly confident that the payment was in fact not from Fraxinus, however there are other scenarios that could have resulted in it being difficult for it to be proven that the tx was not from Fraxinus.
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October 29, 2015, 04:20:47 PM
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I have paid.Sorry for delay,that's my fault.Please remove negative trust,by no means I'm a scammer,and I'm not going to scam anyone for 0.02 btc,be sure for that.
Thxid:https://blockchain.info/address/1FKu5iqyVwkFjXuNCgwra5M4iuWtWJeKMg
Still proccessing.Thanks.
p.s Also,look at my previous trades and the positive feedback.It's obvious I'm not a scammer,however I apologise for the delay,I had some issues and I'm sorry.

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October 29, 2015, 04:39:30 PM
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I have paid.Sorry for delay,that's my fault.Please remove negative trust,by no means I'm a scammer,and I'm not going to scam anyone for 0.02 btc,be sure for that.
Thxid:https://blockchain.info/address/1FKu5iqyVwkFjXuNCgwra5M4iuWtWJeKMg
Still proccessing.Thanks.
p.s Also,look at my previous trades and the positive feedback.It's obvious I'm not a scammer,however I apologise for the delay,I had some issues and I'm sorry.

I assume you talk about this[1] TX. The amounts do not match though.

[1] https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/b62feb9b25c130865ca1775a9de3a5c9e65205e81f6305b8457998f41b36d705

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October 29, 2015, 04:42:09 PM
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Yeah,my fault,I'll just add the other 0.003 btc.

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October 29, 2015, 04:44:50 PM
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I have paid.Sorry for delay,that's my fault.Please remove negative trust,by no means I'm a scammer,and I'm not going to scam anyone for 0.02 btc,be sure for that.
Thxid:https://blockchain.info/address/1FKu5iqyVwkFjXuNCgwra5M4iuWtWJeKMg
Still proccessing.Thanks.
p.s Also,look at my previous trades and the positive feedback.It's obvious I'm not a scammer,however I apologise for the delay,I had some issues and I'm sorry.

I assume you talk about this[1] TX. The amounts do not match though.

[1] https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/b62feb9b25c130865ca1775a9de3a5c9e65205e81f6305b8457998f41b36d705
Yeah,my fault,I'll just add the other 0.003 btc.
Are you sure that was not someone else sending the OP BTC for some other reason? Can you sign a message with today's date and your username from the "sending" address?
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October 29, 2015, 04:48:39 PM
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I'm the one sending it,that's the address I received it,I'll sign a message if needed.

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October 29, 2015, 05:54:39 PM
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Here's another payment.Gave a tip as well.
https://blockchain.info/bg/tx/a7a4cb67c37ee55d3bb2f196ea96517a5256f746c8fb73c412114cb11a1c6262

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October 29, 2015, 08:04:53 PM
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I have paid.Sorry for delay,that's my fault.Please remove negative trust,by no means I'm a scammer,and I'm not going to scam anyone for 0.02 btc,be sure for that.
Thxid:https://blockchain.info/address/1FKu5iqyVwkFjXuNCgwra5M4iuWtWJeKMg
Still proccessing.Thanks.
p.s Also,look at my previous trades and the positive feedback.It's obvious I'm not a scammer,however I apologise for the delay,I had some issues and I'm sorry.

I assume you talk about this[1] TX. The amounts do not match though.

[1] https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/b62feb9b25c130865ca1775a9de3a5c9e65205e81f6305b8457998f41b36d705
Yeah,my fault,I'll just add the other 0.003 btc.
Are you sure that was not someone else sending the OP BTC for some other reason? Can you sign a message with today's date and your username from the "sending" address?
The address matches the one I paid. Removing the negative trust now however will add a neutral comment.

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October 29, 2015, 09:07:00 PM
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I have paid.Sorry for delay,that's my fault.Please remove negative trust,by no means I'm a scammer,and I'm not going to scam anyone for 0.02 btc,be sure for that.
Thxid:https://blockchain.info/address/1FKu5iqyVwkFjXuNCgwra5M4iuWtWJeKMg
Still proccessing.Thanks.
p.s Also,look at my previous trades and the positive feedback.It's obvious I'm not a scammer,however I apologise for the delay,I had some issues and I'm sorry.

I assume you talk about this[1] TX. The amounts do not match though.

[1] https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/b62feb9b25c130865ca1775a9de3a5c9e65205e81f6305b8457998f41b36d705
Yeah,my fault,I'll just add the other 0.003 btc.
Are you sure that was not someone else sending the OP BTC for some other reason? Can you sign a message with today's date and your username from the "sending" address?
The address matches the one I paid. Removing the negative trust now however will add a neutral comment.

Thanks for the confirmation, removed mine as well.

Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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