The cost of Bitcoin attacks

[bearex]

How much does it costs, for an attacker to double spend a coin at:

0 confirmations
1 confirmation
...
?

Trying to get some borders for buyers to wait, so the double spend doesnt happen.

Thanks

[redsn0w]

How much does it costs, for an attacker to double spend a coin at:

0 confirmations
1 confirmation
...
?

Trying to get some borders for buyers to wait, so the double spend doesnt happen.

Thanks

To double spend (send two times the 'same' TX) you have only to use a custom client (the RbF -replace by fee | bitcoinCore). However, you can't double spend a tx once it has 1 or more confirmation.

[bearex]

So you can double spend a 0 confirmation transaction with no cost?

[redsn0w]

So you can double spend a 0 confirmation transaction with no cost?

You have to put & spend the correct fee(s), and choose the 'right' inputs.

[bearex]

Is this something that could be possible when a person is buying goods <100$? In a physical store.

[achow101]

Is this something that could be possible when a person is buying goods <100$? In a physical store.

Theoretically, yes. They would need custom software on their mobile device that would allow them to spend the same inputs again and with a different fee.

[shorena]

Is this something that could be possible when a person is buying goods <100$? In a physical store.

Its possible, but you should read this thread -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1197567.0

[Hugroll]

How much does it costs, for an attacker to double spend a coin at:

0 confirmations
1 confirmation
...
?

Trying to get some borders for buyers to wait, so the double spend doesnt happen.

Thanks

To double spend (send two times the 'same' TX) you have only to use a custom client (the RbF -replace by fee | bitcoinCore). However, you can't double spend a tx once it has 1 or more confirmation.

i remember seeing this video on youtube that explained that double spending can have more than 1 confirmation but the two tx would have to be confirmed at the same time? but the chances are very low of that happening. Does it work like that or if you double spend theres a 0% chance of both of them getting 2 confirmations each?

[redsn0w]

How much does it costs, for an attacker to double spend a coin at:

0 confirmations
1 confirmation
...
?

Trying to get some borders for buyers to wait, so the double spend doesnt happen.

Thanks

To double spend (send two times the 'same' TX) you have only to use a custom client (the RbF -replace by fee | bitcoinCore). However, you can't double spend a tx once it has 1 or more confirmation.

i remember seeing this video on youtube that explained that double spending can have more than 1 confirmation but the two tx would have to be confirmed at the same time? but the chances are very low of that happening. Does it work like that or if you double spend theres a 0% chance of both of them getting 2 confirmations each?

It is impossible to get confirmed the 2 transactions (double spend). Because for a successful double spend one of the two tx must not be confirmed, this is how it works.

[amaclin]

However, you can't double spend a tx once it has 1 or more confirmation.

wrong

[redsn0w]

However, you can't double spend a tx once it has 1 or more confirmation.

wrong

Can you make a test?
This is my address bitcoin 1GkGt3218AM8FU7ZGDCeZS4LWZR8xeZcjf  send me a PM once you'll start.



Good luck !

[amaclin]

Can you make a test?
This is my address bitcoin 1GkGt3218AM8FU7ZGDCeZS4LWZR8xeZcjf  send me a PM once you'll start.

Not today, man.
On mainnet.
We can test this on testnet or on altcoin network.

[redsn0w]

Can you make a test?
This is my address bitcoin 1GkGt3218AM8FU7ZGDCeZS4LWZR8xeZcjf  send me a PM once you'll start.

Not today, man.
On mainnet.
We can test this on testnet or on altcoin network.

Why not the real BTC blockchain?

[yakuza699]

Can you make a test?
This is my address bitcoin 1GkGt3218AM8FU7ZGDCeZS4LWZR8xeZcjf  send me a PM once you'll start.

Not today, man.
On mainnet.
We can test this on testnet or on altcoin network.

Do it on litecoin/dogecoin network.Are you going to orphan block that included your transaction?

[criptix]

Can you make a test?
This is my address bitcoin 1GkGt3218AM8FU7ZGDCeZS4LWZR8xeZcjf  send me a PM once you'll start.

Not today, man.
On mainnet.
We can test this on testnet or on altcoin network.

Why not the real BTC blockchain?

because he cant.

[redsn0w]

Can you make a test?
This is my address bitcoin 1GkGt3218AM8FU7ZGDCeZS4LWZR8xeZcjf  send me a PM once you'll start.

Not today, man.
On mainnet.
We can test this on testnet or on altcoin network.

Why not the real BTC blockchain?

because he cant.

He said I'm wrong, but you can't double spend a 1 conf. BTC transaction. It's real impossible  .

[criptix]

Can you make a test?
This is my address bitcoin 1GkGt3218AM8FU7ZGDCeZS4LWZR8xeZcjf  send me a PM once you'll start.

Not today, man.
On mainnet.
We can test this on testnet or on altcoin network.

Why not the real BTC blockchain?

because he cant.

He said I'm wrong, but you can't double spend a 1 conf. BTC transaction. It's real impossible  .

you would need to fork the blockchain. i'm sure he cant do it.

[amaclin]

you would need to fork the blockchain. i'm sure he cant do it.

I can not do it today on mainnet.
I haven't said that it is impossible always.

[yakuza699]

you would need to fork the blockchain. i'm sure he cant do it.

I can not do it today on mainnet.
I haven't said that it is impossible always.

All you need is just a simple orphan block.

[redsn0w]

you would need to fork the blockchain. i'm sure he cant do it.

I can not do it today on mainnet.
I haven't said that it is impossible always.

Maybe tomorrow?