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Author Topic: Loan scammer defaulted a loan and still active on forum(Kabapka aka Heutenamos)  (Read 1225 times)
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October 25, 2015, 11:46:47 AM
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What happened:: Defaulted a loan
User took a loan of 0.20BTC from lottery248 to this bitcoin wallet address 12cy2j6f4YyBZ4V8SdAoVJTonJpuhUg4jK
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1197514.msg12569622#msg12569622

repayment period was 1 week (8th October)
but he never repaid the loan

he is still active on forum with his other alt accounts

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=119230
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=360829

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1197514.0
Amount Scammed: 0.20BTC
Proofs:
Bitcoin address 12zEEKc1bRwnrDpT6duUsKc7kxhW2713rS used by account Kabapka in his profile page and this page https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=425135.msg12584046#msg12584046

Bitcoin address 14tjxVqSNon5qvPgUZyvK25Si72QFYTUob used by account Heutenamos in his profile page and this page https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1021399.msg12609896#msg12609896

Linked Tx IDs
12cy2j6f4YyBZ4V8SdAoVJTonJpuhUg4jK <=> 12zEEKc1bRwnrDpT6duUsKc7kxhW2713rS
https://blockchain.info/tx/9d23a3e12a8dfd7f71e9e7a89105a4de3192f5dc493e217328ecdea0ca816d2c

12zEEKc1bRwnrDpT6duUsKc7kxhW2713rS <=> 14tjxVqSNon5qvPgUZyvK25Si72QFYTUob
https://blockchain.info/tx/e83dd1eed4603ac90acff29eb20fa5025062aff264f2db112bd9a6c94d13d1a3


Those account's password is not changed since last 1 month so they are still controlled by same person who took and defaulted the loan
https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php

Archived Pages:
https://web.archive.org/web/20151020045359/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1197514.0
https://web.archive.org/web/20151020053136/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=360829
https://web.archive.org/web/20151020053014/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=119230
https://web.archive.org/web/20151025113048/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=425135.msg12584046
https://web.archive.org/web/20151025113632/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1021399.msg12609896
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October 25, 2015, 06:57:06 PM
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I left them negative feedbacks but I am not from DT so it won't affect their trust score
someone from DT tag these accounts
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October 25, 2015, 09:04:08 PM
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thanks man, now become much clearer.
full list address from this wallet:
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/10b897511c2cf125/addresses

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October 25, 2015, 11:01:46 PM
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What happened:: Defaulted a loan
User took a loan of 0.20BTC from lottery248 to this bitcoin wallet address 12cy2j6f4YyBZ4V8SdAoVJTonJpuhUg4jK
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1197514.msg12569622#msg12569622

repayment period was 1 week (8th October)
but he never repaid the loan

he is still active on forum with his other alt accounts

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=119230
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=360829

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1197514.0
Amount Scammed: 0.20BTC
Proofs:
Bitcoin address 12zEEKc1bRwnrDpT6duUsKc7kxhW2713rS used by account Kabapka in his profile page and this page https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=425135.msg12584046#msg12584046

Bitcoin address 14tjxVqSNon5qvPgUZyvK25Si72QFYTUob used by account Heutenamos in his profile page and this page https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1021399.msg12609896#msg12609896

Linked Tx IDs
12cy2j6f4YyBZ4V8SdAoVJTonJpuhUg4jK <=> 12zEEKc1bRwnrDpT6duUsKc7kxhW2713rS
https://blockchain.info/tx/9d23a3e12a8dfd7f71e9e7a89105a4de3192f5dc493e217328ecdea0ca816d2c

12zEEKc1bRwnrDpT6duUsKc7kxhW2713rS <=> 14tjxVqSNon5qvPgUZyvK25Si72QFYTUob
https://blockchain.info/tx/e83dd1eed4603ac90acff29eb20fa5025062aff264f2db112bd9a6c94d13d1a3


Those account's password is not changed since last 1 month so they are still controlled by same person who took and defaulted the loan
https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php

Archived Pages:
https://web.archive.org/web/20151020045359/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1197514.0
https://web.archive.org/web/20151020053136/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=360829
https://web.archive.org/web/20151020053014/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=119230
https://web.archive.org/web/20151025113048/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=425135.msg12584046
https://web.archive.org/web/20151025113632/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1021399.msg12609896
they are defiantly the same person, neither account was recently sold, and from the looks of it he defaulted on the loan (although the lender did not appear to provide a repayment address). According to the lender's thread, the repayment address should always be 1KvdN7tm9Vf6Mx2XRG3EhzdhtxxHDpZkLq (although the borrower should always check with the lender prior to sending a repayment to this address), which is the address the loan was funded from and it is clear that no repayments of any amounts above .2 were made to that address.

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October 25, 2015, 11:13:45 PM
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-snip-
they are defiantly the same person, neither account was recently sold, and from the looks of it he defaulted on the loan (although the lender did not appear to provide a repayment address). According to the lender's thread, the repayment address should always be 1KvdN7tm9Vf6Mx2XRG3EhzdhtxxHDpZkLq (although the borrower should always check with the lender prior to sending a repayment to this address), which is the address the loan was funded from and it is clear that no repayments of any amounts above .2 were made to that address.

I had the same question, this thread[1] should answer it. The collateral was sold at a loss.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1214696.0

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October 25, 2015, 11:18:25 PM
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-snip-
they are defiantly the same person, neither account was recently sold, and from the looks of it he defaulted on the loan (although the lender did not appear to provide a repayment address). According to the lender's thread, the repayment address should always be 1KvdN7tm9Vf6Mx2XRG3EhzdhtxxHDpZkLq (although the borrower should always check with the lender prior to sending a repayment to this address), which is the address the loan was funded from and it is clear that no repayments of any amounts above .2 were made to that address.

I had the same question, this thread[1] should answer it. The collateral was sold at a loss.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1214696.0
I am confused. Lottery clearly said that he was not asking for collateral for this loan:
idk.

i can grant you .2 btc and pay .25 within 14 days, k?
i don't need your collateral, but you are warned that if you attempt to scam.
k?

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October 26, 2015, 12:12:53 AM
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dammit, i am out of money now.  Sad

out of ability to use the signature, i want a new ban strike policy that will fade the strike after 90~120 days of the ban and not to be traced back, like google | email me for anything urgent, message will possibly not be instantly responded
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October 26, 2015, 12:18:28 AM
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dammit, i am out of money now.  Sad

You are not doing proper research before lending. That coupled with your refusal to accept collateral will keep you broke forever.
Learn from your mistakes, improve your business model and move ahead.

When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this: 

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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October 26, 2015, 02:40:29 AM
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dammit, i am out of money now.  Sad

You are not doing proper research before lending. That coupled with your refusal to accept collateral will keep you broke forever.
Learn from your mistakes, improve your business model and move ahead.
ok mate.
i used to want him to pay back, not wanting his account. i would still be with bells on if he paid back even if he defaulted.
(edited due to missing word.)

out of ability to use the signature, i want a new ban strike policy that will fade the strike after 90~120 days of the ban and not to be traced back, like google | email me for anything urgent, message will possibly not be instantly responded
i am not really active for some reason
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October 26, 2015, 07:10:52 AM
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dammit, i am out of money now.  Sad

You are not doing proper research before lending. That coupled with your refusal to accept collateral will keep you broke forever.
Learn from your mistakes, improve your business model and move ahead.
ok mate.
i used to want him to pay back, not wanting his account. i would still be with bells on if he paid back even if he defaulted.
(edited due to missing word.)
yes i agree that accusation on me is legit and heut' is my alt account but i dont know about other stuff in the OP.
but i never tried to scam or hurt anyone , i tried to collect the funds and was unable to pay him ,
if i was a scammer why would i reply after the loan term ( i.e 14 days ) and give him the collateral ? and i also messaged him and apologized for the situation but i lost the password of that new account also i was busy attending classes and didnt wanted to message him from my alt that i can repay his losses...
i have no intention in hurting him anyway ,i tried and had .13~ but the loan was far more than that ,

as it is now public i will message the lender and repay his losses with a apologising tip.
i never tried to run or default ,,it just happened.
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October 26, 2015, 07:24:24 AM
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dammit, i am out of money now.  Sad

You are not doing proper research before lending. That coupled with your refusal to accept collateral will keep you broke forever.
Learn from your mistakes, improve your business model and move ahead.
ok mate.
i used to want him to pay back, not wanting his account. i would still be with bells on if he paid back even if he defaulted.
(edited due to missing word.)
yes i agree that accusation on me is legit and heut' is my alt account but i dont know about other stuff in the OP.
but i never tried to scam or hurt anyone , i tried to collect the funds and was unable to pay him ,
if i was a scammer why would i reply after the loan term ( i.e 14 days ) and give him the collateral ? and i also messaged him and apologized for the situation but i lost the password of that new account also i was busy attending classes and didnt wanted to message him from my alt that i can repay his losses...
i have no intention in hurting him anyway ,i tried and had .13~ but the loan was far more than that ,

as it is now public i will message the lender and repay his losses with a apologising tip.
i never tried to run or default ,,it just happened.

sorry man, this trick doesn't work
loan is 15+ days late and you are apologizing after you tagged with negative trust while you were active daily on this forum
you were active on the forum everyday but contacting now because we found your alt accounts
you messaged him before repayment date and asked him for extension ?
it has been 20+ days since loan was take and you were active daily on your alt accounts and now apologizing after we have found your other accounts and you are afraid of losing these accounts
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October 26, 2015, 07:24:53 AM
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-snip-
they are defiantly the same person, neither account was recently sold, and from the looks of it he defaulted on the loan (although the lender did not appear to provide a repayment address). According to the lender's thread, the repayment address should always be 1KvdN7tm9Vf6Mx2XRG3EhzdhtxxHDpZkLq (although the borrower should always check with the lender prior to sending a repayment to this address), which is the address the loan was funded from and it is clear that no repayments of any amounts above .2 were made to that address.

I had the same question, this thread[1] should answer it. The collateral was sold at a loss.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1214696.0
I am confused. Lottery clearly said that he was not asking for collateral for this loan:
idk.

i can grant you .2 btc and pay .25 within 14 days, k?
i don't need your collateral, but you are warned that if you attempt to scam.
k?
" defaulted on loan Scam Alert !!!  "
that is the reason you are in a mess now , would you call a person scammer when he responds everything and comes back after 14 days of term period and hands over the collateral and apologizes for the condition (without even knowing that the account is going to be sold in loss in near future).
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October 26, 2015, 07:28:35 AM
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dammit, i am out of money now.  Sad

You are not doing proper research before lending. That coupled with your refusal to accept collateral will keep you broke forever.
Learn from your mistakes, improve your business model and move ahead.
ok mate.
i used to want him to pay back, not wanting his account. i would still be with bells on if he paid back even if he defaulted.
(edited due to missing word.)
yes i agree that accusation on me is legit and heut' is my alt account but i dont know about other stuff in the OP.
but i never tried to scam or hurt anyone , i tried to collect the funds and was unable to pay him ,
if i was a scammer why would i reply after the loan term ( i.e 14 days ) and give him the collateral ? and i also messaged him and apologized for the situation but i lost the password of that new account also i was busy attending classes and didnt wanted to message him from my alt that i can repay his losses...
i have no intention in hurting him anyway ,i tried and had .13~ but the loan was far more than that ,

as it is now public i will message the lender and repay his losses with a apologising tip.
i never tried to run or default ,,it just happened.

sorry man, this trick doesn't work
loan is 15+ days late and you are apologizing after you tagged with negative trust while you were active daily on this forum
you were active on the forum everyday but contacting now because we found your alt accounts
you messaged him before repayment date and asked him for extension ?
it has been 20+ days since loan was take and you were active daily on your alt accounts and now apologizing after we have found your other accounts and you are afraid of losing these accounts
i apologized him right after i handed over the collateral ....not NOW
ask him about it , i messaged him to confirm if i was shaddy or scammy ever.
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October 26, 2015, 07:32:40 AM
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once defaulter paid back .07, then it would be cleared.
pm sent, ask the kabapka.

out of ability to use the signature, i want a new ban strike policy that will fade the strike after 90~120 days of the ban and not to be traced back, like google | email me for anything urgent, message will possibly not be instantly responded
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October 26, 2015, 07:38:16 AM
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once defaulter paid back .07, then it would be cleared.
pm sent, ask the kabapka.
yeap,  i can make it to 0.05 as discussed via PM's
please confirm this addy  --> 355vSY8LwneJbWtkbb3oaL8JazP55dZRZc
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October 26, 2015, 07:39:28 AM
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once defaulter paid back .07, then it would be cleared.
pm sent, ask the kabapka.
yeap,  i can make it to 0.05 as discussed via PM's
please confirm this addy  --> 355vSY8LwneJbWtkbb3oaL8JazP55dZRZc
yup
please remind the user to remove the negative trust.

out of ability to use the signature, i want a new ban strike policy that will fade the strike after 90~120 days of the ban and not to be traced back, like google | email me for anything urgent, message will possibly not be instantly responded
i am not really active for some reason
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October 26, 2015, 07:43:51 AM
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once defaulter paid back .07, then it would be cleared.
pm sent, ask the kabapka.
yeap,  i can make it to 0.05 as discussed via PM's
please confirm this addy  --> 355vSY8LwneJbWtkbb3oaL8JazP55dZRZc
yup
please remind the user to remove the negative trust.
havent you told him ? still i have sent him a PM on behalf of you.
edit:- waiting on his response .
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October 26, 2015, 07:46:52 AM
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ask him

there was 0.02btc interest for 1 week and you are paying 3 weeks later so you have to pay more interest and the money that lender lost while selling the collateral


0.06 interest and money you lost while selling the collateral
ask him for repayment of 0.08btc
you pay the rest of .03 btc if you have funds.
sorry, but shield is right.

out of ability to use the signature, i want a new ban strike policy that will fade the strike after 90~120 days of the ban and not to be traced back, like google | email me for anything urgent, message will possibly not be instantly responded
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October 26, 2015, 07:54:48 AM
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ask him

there was 0.02btc interest for 1 week and you are paying 3 weeks later so you have to pay more interest and the money that lender lost while selling the collateral


0.06 interest and money you lost while selling the collateral
ask him for repayment of 0.08btc
you pay the rest of .03 btc if you have funds.
sorry, but shield is right.
where did that came from ? ughh PM 's

however tell shield the whole loan details ..the loan was for 14 days not a week. i took it on 3-4th and it ends on 18th~ .

i will pay your loss now .05 as i never had an intention of hurting you and which has no relation with me getting neg rep.
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October 26, 2015, 07:58:12 AM
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ask him

there was 0.02btc interest for 1 week and you are paying 3 weeks later so you have to pay more interest and the money that lender lost while selling the collateral


0.06 interest and money you lost while selling the collateral
ask him for repayment of 0.08btc
you pay the rest of .03 btc if you have funds.
sorry, but shield is right.
where did that came from ? ughh PM 's

however tell shield the whole loan details ..the loan was for 14 days not a week. i took it on 3-4th and it ends on 18th~ .

i will pay your loss now .05 as i never had an intention of hurting you and which has no relation with me getting neg rep.
ok, fine.  Tongue

out of ability to use the signature, i want a new ban strike policy that will fade the strike after 90~120 days of the ban and not to be traced back, like google | email me for anything urgent, message will possibly not be instantly responded
i am not really active for some reason
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