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November 02, 2012, 02:25:59 PM Last edit: February 14, 2014, 04:13:32 PM by Rassah |
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Continued from another thread...
What bothers me is the SA culture in general. I've thought about it at length yesterday, and realized that SA are essentially a bunch of jealous ludites. Here are some examples why that is true:
1) Furry fandom is a community of incredibly artistic people, full of painters, writers, musicians, and entertainers, who organize, put together huge international conventions, and raise hundreds of thousands for charity while contributing tens of millions of dollars to local economies of the cities hosting those conventions. The only thing SA contributed is to make fun of them.
2) SecondLife allowed for unprecedented communication, collaboration, and creativity. Players there got a chance to explore design, fashion, and architecture skills they never even knew they had. They used their creative skills to make new games, experiment with fashion in virtual space, and practice things like investment and business/real estate management before building real life businesses using those skills. People there earned from thousands to millions of dollars using nothing other than their brains and creativity. The only thing SA contributed is to make fun of them by making random penises fly around, and when told that they are causing serious damage and costing actual money, their only reply was, "don't take it so seriously."
3) Bitcoin is a new financial concept entirely without precedent. We are only scratching the surface of what is possible with it. The only reason it has any value (and the thing SA seems to focus most on) is that it is impossible to duplicate, and has a guaranteed limit on quantity, which is extremely unusual in the copy/paste digital world. But besides inflation resistance, it can do awesome things like, for the first time ever, allow software to own valuable property. This was never possible before, w/ closest thing being that a program could control bank accounts or own contracts in someone else's name. Now, for the first time, it's possible for a program or a "virus" to own money, decide on its own how to spend it, and actually take it with it as it travels around the web. The possibilities for AI, concept of property, and ownership/copyright law are mind boggling. This is just one example of many that Bitcoin allows for, and those that realize such possibilities are working hard to make them come true, earning real money in the process (as much as $6,000 a day, or $2.3mil a year). The only thing SA has contributed was to willfully stay ignorant of basic finance and economics and make fun of those involved with bitcoinOther than that, all they are able to do is stare at the system without understanding it, or being able to figure out how to make anything out of it. As they have with SecondLife, or any other fandom or technology.
All this makes me think that SA goons have absolutely no imagination or drive. On the contrary, the group seems to be based around making fun of anyone who shows any sort of imagination, or attempts something out of the ordinary. They are like a pot of crabs, grabbing and dragging anyone who dares try to escape and achieve something back down with them. The group has no accomplishments to its name, other than being a nuisance to everyone else, and providing a circle-jerk of entertainment to its members in the style of bullying people they don't even want to understand. Any discovery of scammers or bad people in other communities is at most a purely accidental result of them being so eager to try to attack anything and anyone. This of course suggests that the SA group consists primarily of losers, who lack any initiative, imagination, or drive, and who's actions only suggest that they are jealous of those who do (which is perfectly exemplified by their whining about how Bitcoin is unfair, benefits early adopters, and their insistence on the belief that everyone involved with it is a selfish idiot who's only philosophy is "F*** you, got mine."). And judging by the few people I know in that group, including even my ex, that seems to be completely true.
My biggest pet peeve is ignorance; especially willful ignorance. Racists, religious extremists, jingoists, and ludites who believe they are right, and everyone else is an idiot, who are afraid of anything they don't understand, and actively try to avoid understanding or learning new ideas. SA is in that group, and that's why I hate them.
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November 02, 2012, 02:42:05 PM |
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Yeah, one of the first things I found when looking at Bitcoin was a thread by the SomethingAwful community attacking it, I don't really pay attention to those kind of people because their arguments are usually either flawed/incorrect statements/outright bullshit, people like this take advantage of the way that technology works to attack others without getting any response back. It's a bit like when you have youtube video posters who say something completely outrageous and stupid but disable the comments because they know they'll get called out on their bullshit.
I wouldn't bother to get all angry about it, I used to think there was something off about people who drew that sort of stuff but I'm honestly a lot more open minded now lol it's peoples choice whether they want to do that sort of thing and if you have people dumb enough to actually go out there, search for it and then rant about it that's just there problem and no one else. If it's any comfort to you one thing I've learned about douchebags like SomethingAwful is that they always hang out in their own little club, you'll never see them make any other friends because they can't so they stick together and pick on smaller groups or single people to inflate their egos, everyone will always hate people like that.
I dream of a day when I can block an entire I.P address from my browser so I never have to stumble on that kind of bullshit from a person again.
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November 02, 2012, 04:57:06 PM |
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Yeah, one of the first things I found when looking at Bitcoin was a thread by the SomethingAwful community attacking it, I don't really pay attention to those kind of people because their arguments are usually either flawed/incorrect statements/outright bullshit, people like this take advantage of the way that technology works to attack others without getting any response back. It's a bit like when you have youtube video posters who say something completely outrageous and stupid but disable the comments because they know they'll get called out on their bullshit.
I wouldn't bother to get all angry about it, I used to think there was something off about people who drew that sort of stuff but I'm honestly a lot more open minded now lol it's peoples choice whether they want to do that sort of thing and if you have people dumb enough to actually go out there, search for it and then rant about it that's just there problem and no one else. If it's any comfort to you one thing I've learned about douchebags like SomethingAwful is that they always hang out in their own little club, you'll never see them make any other friends because they can't so they stick together and pick on smaller groups or single people to inflate their egos, everyone will always hate people like that.
I dream of a day when I can block an entire I.P address from my browser so I never have to stumble on that kind of bullshit from a person again.
something about misery loves comany...
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November 02, 2012, 05:08:06 PM |
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It's a community of egomaniacs.
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Fluttershy
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November 02, 2012, 05:10:08 PM |
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Sounds like the name fits the site. I heard you can't even talk about ponies there.
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logansryche
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November 02, 2012, 05:15:58 PM |
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nope and their constantly ripping Jay a new one over the thing with him and Matt(Rassah should know who I'm talking about).
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Rassah (OP)
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November 02, 2012, 06:04:16 PM Last edit: November 02, 2012, 06:20:24 PM by Rassah |
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Relieved, actually. No more than I am upset with the KKK or Focus on the Family. Was just glad to figure out what it was exactly that made me dislike that bunch so much. Thanks for all the attention though
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BitcoinCoffee.com
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November 02, 2012, 06:12:11 PM |
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Honestly the epitome of tl;dr & 'u mad'
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November 02, 2012, 09:08:05 PM |
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Who generalizes the generalizers?
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November 02, 2012, 09:13:27 PM |
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I'm still looking for somebody to buy me a Account Registration Certificate for one Bitcoin. Please, I know you'll read it
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November 03, 2012, 08:50:30 PM |
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Who hates the haters?
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November 04, 2012, 11:53:14 PM |
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Well, Something Awful does actually have a huge creative side, but... they seem to do this thing where they get so obsessed with some group or website that a lot of the members just collectively lose touch with reality. They don't just do that with furries or Second Life or Bitcoins either - I'm catching up with the Awful Kickstarter thread, and a whole bunch of people spent pages trying to argue that Penny Arcade's Kickstarter somehow violated the site's rules, even though it was exactly the kind of thing Kickstarter was created to fund, just because they hated Penny Arcade so much. They're also chronically and totally unable to grasp the fact that TV Tropes has always been really popular with feminists, because they've collectively decided it must be a bunch of misogynistic male geeks with Aspergers, and that's lead to much weirdness and cognitive dissonance whenever their perspective collides with external reality. Actually, the Bitcoin thread is mostly relatively reasonable, the odd weird brainfart aside. (Apparently if you install the Bitcoin client it starts using your CPU to mine Bitcoins automatically, and building and launching satellites is impossible without a billion dollar budget. This no doubt comes as news to the people who actually develop the Bitcoin client and to the amateur radio groups and schools who've built microsats and put them in orbit, respectively.)
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November 05, 2012, 12:38:39 AM |
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Just as in a city, there are places on the internet that respectable people don't go. SA is one of those places.
I have to admit curiosity about that table, though.
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November 05, 2012, 12:56:33 AM |
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The coffee table meme started with I.
Each and every time I've brought it up, it's only for humor purposes at Rassah's expense. Nothing more, and definitely nothing implied.
Taxing my memory, the way the whole thing started is that Rassah mentions his table, somebody makes a comment, then another, along with I (I think), then Rassah asks (states) why so much interest in my coffee table (paraphrased). It was at this point that I took the discussion to the nth degree, always continuing the dialog when some conversation detected such.
My true feelings about Rassah is that I fully trust him. I also believe that if between us we ever had a disagreement on some subject, it can be resolved via a dialog, or simply we agree to disagree and carry on.
~Bruno K~
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November 05, 2012, 01:36:49 AM |
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And here I was thinking Rassah digged ass holes and after all he hates them... That should teach me not to judge a person based on their cofee table! j/k
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Bitcoin Oz
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November 07, 2012, 04:50:03 AM |
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Now I wonder about the coffee table
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November 07, 2012, 04:52:52 AM |
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Now I wonder about the coffee table Yeah. Almost afraid to ask... Pics? Or at least a detailed description?
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November 07, 2012, 05:20:01 AM |
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Now I wonder about the coffee table Yeah. Almost afraid to ask... Pics? Or at least a detailed description? Art, slender nude expect for a white men's shirt, holding a cup of coffee, sporting morning wood. And a very long fluffy tail. Done by one of the top artists (excellent attention to detail and lighting). Cost $1,2000 for the original, $300 for the print in the table. Usually strategically covered with a remote and a coaster (currently with bags of Halloween candy). Well. Not my cup of coffee, but I might like if it were gender switched. Or at least not excited to see me. To each his own.
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November 07, 2012, 09:23:59 AM |
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..... $300 for what is essentially a hentai drawing? People can draw whatever they like but as an artist even I have a hard time justifying that price, I look at paintings like the mona lisa etc. with their price tag like this:
It's how much for the original? O_O <
If my art ever reaches those prices somehow feel free to burn it since I'll probably have put it on the internet anyway I think high priced artwork is a bit of a ponzi scheme.
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November 07, 2012, 05:01:44 PM |
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Now, for the first time, it's possible for a program or a "virus" to own money, decide on its own how to spend it, and actually take it with it as it travels around the web. The possibilities for AI, concept of property, and ownership/copyright law are mind boggling.
This is really creepy. Do anyone know if this concept is used in fiction yet? It is an intriguing train of thought.
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