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October 31, 2015, 11:37:08 PM
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If you hold onto a broad market index of stocks for long time you should make money over time. This is why the stock market are exists to give investors a some profits in exchange for taking on risk over the time. But casino games are designed to have a negative expected return. If you play games in a casino then over time you will be losing money. This is because the casino has set the odds so that you will lose money more often than you will make it. So investing stocks for long time is different from gambling.
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October 31, 2015, 11:52:32 PM
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If you would know how manipulated any stock exchange market is, you would be thankful that you are getting odds, for example in sports betting. With these odds you at least know your chances. With stock exchange you know nothing.

I think that in the end, stock exchange and sports betting are just about the same. They are both just a gamble.
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November 01, 2015, 12:51:12 AM
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Yes both got very big difference investing in share market is for making profits for long term and gambling is for losing money instantly. So both can't be completely different.
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November 01, 2015, 12:57:02 AM
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If you would know how manipulated any stock exchange market is, you would be thankful that you are getting odds, for example in sports betting. With these odds you at least know your chances. With stock exchange you know nothing.

I think that in the end, stock exchange and sports betting are just about the same. They are both just a gamble.

They are different and not the same. In sports gamble you cant manipulate it but in stock exchange if you own a big funds then you can manipulate it just like trading bitcoin

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November 01, 2015, 01:52:35 AM
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If you would know how manipulated any stock exchange market is, you would be thankful that you are getting odds, for example in sports betting. With these odds you at least know your chances. With stock exchange you know nothing.

I think that in the end, stock exchange and sports betting are just about the same. They are both just a gamble.

They are different and not the same. In sports gamble you cant manipulate it but in stock exchange if you own a big funds then you can manipulate it just like trading bitcoin

I think stock market manipulation is not possible to every one but only big institutions are involved in those manipulation and one need a very huge money for it.
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November 01, 2015, 02:01:50 AM
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If you would know how manipulated any stock exchange market is, you would be thankful that you are getting odds, for example in sports betting. With these odds you at least know your chances. With stock exchange you know nothing.

I think that in the end, stock exchange and sports betting are just about the same. They are both just a gamble.

They are different and not the same. In sports gamble you cant manipulate it but in stock exchange if you own a big funds then you can manipulate it just like trading bitcoin

I think stock market manipulation is not possible to every one but only big institutions are involved in those manipulation and one need a very huge money for it.
Yes it possible that there is manipulation of the stock market and I think the one of the company whom manipulate the stock are tge broker because they are holding a big volume of stock.

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November 01, 2015, 06:26:14 AM
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If you hold onto a broad market index of stocks for long time you should make money over time. This is why the stock market are exists to give investors a some profits in exchange for taking on risk over the time. But casino games are designed to have a negative expected return. If you play games in a casino then over time you will be losing money. This is because the casino has set the odds so that you will lose money more often than you will make it. So investing stocks for long time is different from gambling.
You should consider the long term trends as well, like in 2008-2009 the trend was bearish, but after the credit crunch the trend started to be bullish again, until the next turn. If you trade the indexes, you have better chance to earn profit but much less chance to earn big, like if you catch a company's share that starts to sky rocket in a short period. But for this you need luck and a lot of analisys about those companies.
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November 01, 2015, 08:14:36 PM
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You should consider the long term trends as well, like in 2008-2009 the trend was bearish, but after the credit crunch the trend started to be bullish again, until the next turn. If you trade the indexes, you have better chance to earn profit but much less chance to earn big, like if you catch a company's share that starts to sky rocket in a short period. But for this you need luck and a lot of analisys about those companies.

In general, you earn less by tracking index than buying into a good company directly. But it is difficult to find a winner stock and stick to it.
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November 02, 2015, 12:30:44 AM
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According to one definition, investing is, “the act of committing money or capital to an endeavor with the expectation of obtaining additional income or profit.” What this definition lacks is the real difference between investing and gambling…research. Unfortunately, there is a huge crowd of amateur investors that ignore advice, “a share is not a lottery ticket…it’s part ownership of a business.”
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November 02, 2015, 12:51:23 AM
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Yes. The house edge.
Gambling houses have to pay things and have profits that must come from players, while stock exchanges don't have to take player's money away to exist
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November 02, 2015, 01:07:12 AM
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There are many types of gambling so it is hard to compare but stocks/forex/cryptocurrency exchanging are forms of gambling really.
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November 02, 2015, 01:14:21 AM
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And there is are lot of scam assets and brokers in forex markets and a lot of honest gambling companies and vice versa, so...
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November 02, 2015, 01:27:35 AM
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Trading on the stock exchange can involve a lot less risk than casino gambling for a professional trader. However, penny stocks are possibly more risky than a casino, There are classes of high risk stocks on a stock exchange from penny stocks to gradually lower risk ones. The penny stocks are often pumped worse than some pump and dump altcoins. When they get dumped you can lose your investment in an instant. IMO buying them is gambling, not investing.
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November 02, 2015, 02:42:28 AM
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I don't know much about stocks trading but for sure it's way better than gambling on random stuffs
there are some experts who are making good money from it but for sure the person should know what he is doing
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November 02, 2015, 08:27:42 AM
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I don't know much about stocks trading but for sure it's way better than gambling on random stuffs
there are some experts who are making good money from it but for sure the person should know what he is doing

The most famous stock "gambler" is Warren Buffet. He "gambled" in the stock market for 60 years, and he used to the richest person in the world.
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November 02, 2015, 09:54:00 AM
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I don't know much about stocks trading but for sure it's way better than gambling on random stuffs
there are some experts who are making good money from it but for sure the person should know what he is doing

The most famous stock "gambler" is Warren Buffet. He "gambled" in the stock market for 60 years, and he used to the richest person in the world.

I think you don't know the difference between gambling and investing that's your telling Warren Buffet is gambler. If was gambling then by now he wouldn't even have sing $ with him but he invested his money wisely that's why today he is a one of the richest person in the world. Lot of information available in internet to understand the difference between gambling and investing.
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November 02, 2015, 10:00:48 AM
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I think stock exchange one can make money in the long run but in gambling most likely every one will lose money. What you guys think?

Is there a difference? You mean is there a similarity? Buying a stock share means investing a company. You can't compare this to gambling. (Unless if you don't know what you bought, but if that's the case you're already fucked up anyway.)
Do your own research and invest for right companies, you'll be safe.
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November 02, 2015, 10:44:24 AM
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This was discussed many many times in the past.

Basically both are considered risky because you can lose your entire investment. However you chances of making money in the stock market are higher if you know what you are doing.

Generally investing in the markets has been very profitable due to inflation and stock markets (except during recessions) tend to rally.
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November 02, 2015, 03:02:54 PM
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You can hold a stock if it drops by a lot but once you loses in gambling you lost your bet. Buying stock is seemingly less risky as you can hold for a long period of time.

     

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November 02, 2015, 07:47:00 PM
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You can hold a stock if it drops by a lot but once you loses in gambling you lost your bet. Buying stock is seemingly less risky as you can hold for a long period of time.

That is a very good point. When the share price drop, you company is still there, it may recover one day. When you lose your stake, it is gone forever.
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