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November 06, 2012, 09:34:44 PM
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Due to the crypto-paranoid spirit required to survive more than 15 minutes, we might reckon each other with a secret handshake and/or other signs (a QR?).

..... But we might develop some rituals like washing anus before sending bitcoin payment. That will make it a true religion.

A secret anus washing ritual.

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November 06, 2012, 10:14:12 PM
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Due to the crypto-paranoid spirit required to survive more than 15 minutes, we might reckon each other with a secret handshake and/or other signs (a QR?).

..... But we might develop some rituals like washing anus before sending bitcoin payment. That will make it a true religion.

A secret anus washing ritual.

I sent you that idea via PM and assumed it was going to remain private, but I now see you took it upon yourself to tell the whole community. I duly hope you don't decide to mention what flavor bath salts we discussed.

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November 06, 2012, 10:20:48 PM
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Since many here seems to be anally-obsessed, we could opt for cerimonial enemas. So the tub girl and goatsee could be our icons.
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November 06, 2012, 10:25:00 PM
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I sent you that idea via PM and assumed it was going to remain private, but I now see you took it upon yourself to tell the whole community. I duly hope you don't decide to mention what flavor bath salts we discussed.

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I cannot see how having the whole community lining up to wash your anus would be a bad thing.

As for bath salts, I guess that will remain a surprise for the washer.

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November 06, 2012, 10:50:38 PM
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Genesis 1

In the beginning Satoshi created the algorithm and the bitcoin-client.
Now the bitcoin network was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the spirit of financial freedom was hovering over the waters.
And Satoshi said, "Let there be Genesis Block," and there was a Genesis Block.
Satoshi saw that the Genesis Block was good, and he separated the Genesis Block from the darkness.
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November 06, 2012, 11:15:03 PM
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Genesis 1

In the beginning Satoshi created the algorithm and the bitcoin-client.
Now the bitcoin network was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the spirit of financial freedom was hovering over the waters.
And Satoshi said, "Let there be Genesis Block," and there was a Genesis Block.
Satoshi saw that the Genesis Block was good, and he separated the Genesis Block from the darkness.
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ALLLELUIIAHHH!

Where's the revised international version?

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November 07, 2012, 05:28:33 PM
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Genesis 1

In the beginning Satoshi created the algorithm and the bitcoin-client.
Now the bitcoin network was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the spirit of financial freedom was hovering over the waters.
And Satoshi said, "Let there be Genesis Block," and there was a Genesis Block.
Satoshi saw that the Genesis Block was good, and he separated the Genesis Block from the darkness.
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ALLLELUIIAHHH!

And praise Satoshi it was good!

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November 07, 2012, 08:31:27 PM
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And though it was the world made believe that Satoshi has left us.

And many felt great despair. But then the holy algorithm reviled the truth.

Satoshi ascended into the blockchain from where he will guide us until eternity.

In the name of Satoshi, the blockchain and deflation.

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November 07, 2012, 09:39:47 PM
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Smiles are even less regulated than religion. Bitcoin = smile imo.

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November 08, 2012, 03:24:21 AM
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Tax exempt status is given to organisations, not their members.  Even if you could somehow pull of registering a Bitcoin organisation as a religious organisation, only that specific organisation and it's subsidiaries would enjoy tax exempt status.

All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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November 08, 2012, 04:57:56 AM
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Tax exempt status is given to organisations, not their members.  Even if you could somehow pull of registering a Bitcoin organisation as a religious organisation, only that specific organisation and it's subsidiaries would enjoy tax exempt status.

Sure, but making using the bitcoin network a sacrament (like any ritual in other religions) would make it impossible for bitcoin to be made illegal in the US.

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November 08, 2012, 11:08:36 AM
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Tax exempt status is given to organisations, not their members.  Even if you could somehow pull of registering a Bitcoin organisation as a religious organisation, only that specific organisation and it's subsidiaries would enjoy tax exempt status.

Sure, but making using the bitcoin network a sacrament (like any ritual in other religions) would make it impossible for bitcoin to be made illegal in the US.

pretty sure animal sacrifice is still illegal despite it's use in several religions, some of which ARE active.

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November 08, 2012, 12:57:16 PM
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would make it impossible for bitcoin to be made illegal in the US.
Statements like this betray a fundamental misunderstanding of the law and its relationship to the individuals which make up government.
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November 08, 2012, 06:39:22 PM
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Religion has to do with the Spirit.
Is there anything spiritual in bitcoin that could be bound to a faith?

{ Imagine a sequence of bits generated from the first decimal place of the square roots of whole integers that are irrational numbers. If the decimal falls between 0 and 5, it's considered bit 0, and if it falls between 5 and 10, it's considered bit 1. This sequence from a simple integer count of contiguous irrationals and their logical decimal expansion of the first decimal place is called the 'main irrational stream.' Our goal is to design a physical and optical computing system system that can detect when this stream starts matching a specific pattern of a given size of bits. bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=166760.0 } Satoshi did use a friend class in C++ and put a comment on the code saying: "This is why people hate C++".
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November 09, 2012, 12:01:53 AM
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Tax exempt status is given to organisations, not their members.  Even if you could somehow pull of registering a Bitcoin organisation as a religious organisation, only that specific organisation and it's subsidiaries would enjoy tax exempt status.

Sure, but making using the bitcoin network a sacrament (like any ritual in other religions) would make it impossible for bitcoin to be made illegal in the US.

What a crock of shit.  Plenty of religious rituals are illegal in many Western nations and if you could just declare something a sacrament in order to prevent its use being illegal there'd be no illegal drugs (do you seriously believe that people haven't considered this in respect of illegal drugs in the past?).  

While I believe that religions enjoy far too much protection, that protection is far from absolute.  As has been pointed out already, the manner in which the US applies the principal of separation between church and state would impose limitations on how and where Bitcoin could be promoted if it was somehow brought under the umbrella of religion.

All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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November 09, 2012, 12:07:33 AM
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Tax exempt status is given to organisations, not their members.  Even if you could somehow pull of registering a Bitcoin organisation as a religious organisation, only that specific organisation and it's subsidiaries would enjoy tax exempt status.

Sure, but making using the bitcoin network a sacrament (like any ritual in other religions) would make it impossible for bitcoin to be made illegal in the US.

What a crock of shit.  Plenty of religious rituals are illegal in many Western nations and if you could just declare something a sacrament in order to prevent its use being illegal there'd be no illegal drugs (do you seriously believe that people haven't considered this in respect of illegal drugs in the past?).  

While I believe that religions enjoy far too much protection, that protection is far from absolute.  As has been pointed out already, the manner in which the US applies the principal of separation between church and state would impose limitations on how and where Bitcoin could be promoted if it was somehow brought under the umbrella of religion.

This is all correct to a point. I don't think I'll be able to get human sacrifice legalised, even if religious.

However, afaik peyotl is legal for members of whichever church it is that believes taking the drug is a sacrament.

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November 09, 2012, 05:18:09 AM
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This is all correct to a point. I don't think I'll be able to get human sacrifice legalised, even if religious.

However, afaik peyotl is legal for members of whichever church it is that believes taking the drug is a scarament.

The law doesn't really make a distinction between rituals which involve harming others... But the courts do. I have think under this vein even if laws were passed affecting bitcoin the courts would still dismiss those cases as being protected if it was a sacrament... simply because it doesn't harm anyone.




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