I just preordered ASIC chip, now what?

[Inaba]

Thanks for proving my point MysteryMiner... unable to provide a shred of proof for your claims, WTG!

[MysteryMiner]

Thanks for proving my point MysteryMiner... unable to provide a shred of proof for your claims, WTG!

What should I prove? That BFL have no ASIC devices?

[Inaba]

Prove any of your wild claims, take your pick.

[MysteryMiner]

It is ridiculous! Will talk again half year later when the ASIC is still not made.

[Inaba]

So there you go, when pressed for proof... poof!  Nothing shows up.  Haha, love it   Thanks for being so obvious MM, I appreciate you making my point so well.

[Portnoy]

Prove any of your wild claims, take your pick.

Still waiting to see you prove any of 'your' wild claims. 
MM is right, the burden of proof is upon you.

How can he prove a negative? 

He also isn't taking pre-orders on some product no one, as far as I can tell, has yet held in their hand and tried out.

So there you go, when pressed for proof... poof!  Nothing shows up...

LOL 

The irony is delicious...

Yup, we'll see.   

[MysteryMiner]

So there you go, when pressed for proof... poof!  Nothing shows up.  Haha, love it   Thanks for being so obvious MM, I appreciate you making my point so well.

And thanks for confirming my suspicion of scam again! It is now way past the 6 confirmations required! You are taking this approach seriously and doing it well!

How can I prove that You don't have a white unicorn? If I can't prove that You don't have it, is it a proof that white unicorns are real? Is it OK to sell the expensive tickets to ride the unicorn even if none have seen them and You don't provide any proof that You really have unicorn?

[cancerofthecancer]

I just wanted to thank all the members that are weighing in on the situation. At this point it seems no one can prove anything on either side. It looks like the next few months will be extremely interesting.
Thanks to everyone and all of the advice, it is nice to be able to come here as a newb as still get constructive feedback. The only conclusion that I can come to is that their is a lot of valuable information on the forums if you are willing to look for it, and their are members that are very passionate about the scene. I plan on doing a lot of research, and eventually doing some mining.
This is a little off topic,  but does anyone have any suggestions on where a newb should go to learn about using linux. I think while I wait for the ASICs to drop I will teach myself how to use it, it seems like it can't hurt to be knowledgeable on using it for mining.

[Inaba]

So there you go, when pressed for proof... poof!  Nothing shows up.  Haha, love it   Thanks for being so obvious MM, I appreciate you making my point so well.

And thanks for confirming my suspicion of scam again! It is now way past the 6 confirmations required! You are taking this approach seriously and doing it well!

How can I prove that You don't have a white unicorn? If I can't prove that You don't have it, is it a proof that white unicorns are real? Is it OK to sell the expensive tickets to ride the unicorn even if none have seen them and You don't provide any proof that You really have unicorn?

And still not an ounce of proof to back up your claims. 

[panda1]

I just wanted to thank all the members that are weighing in on the situation. At this point it seems no one can prove anything on either side. It looks like the next few months will be extremely interesting.
Thanks to everyone and all of the advice, it is nice to be able to come here as a newb as still get constructive feedback. The only conclusion that I can come to is that their is a lot of valuable information on the forums if you are willing to look for it, and their are members that are very passionate about the scene. I plan on doing a lot of research, and eventually doing some mining.
This is a little off topic,  but does anyone have any suggestions on where a newb should go to learn about using linux. I think while I wait for the ASICs to drop I will teach myself how to use it, it seems like it can't hurt to be knowledgeable on using it for mining.

This link should help:
http://bit.ly/UmskfB

[firefop]

It is ridiculous! Will talk again half year later when the ASIC is still not made.

The sad thing is, I'm pretty sure you actually believe this.

would you like to buy my 35gh/s gpu farm?

I'd be more than happy to let it go right now for say... 25 grand.

[Rudd-O]

Thanks for proving my point MysteryMiner... unable to provide a shred of proof for your claims, WTG!

Sorry, but MysteryMiner is right and you are wrong.  He doesn't have to disprove the nonexistence of anything.  You do have to prove the existence of the entity you posit.  Please do not poison the forums with religious logic.

https://i.imgur.com/02LSb.jpg

[SaintDevil]

I am not on either side, I have doubts too because I don't want to loose money on this. But they did posted pictures

[firefop]

I just wanted to thank all the members that are weighing in on the situation. At this point it seems no one can prove anything on either side. It looks like the next few months will be extremely interesting.
Thanks to everyone and all of the advice, it is nice to be able to come here as a newb as still get constructive feedback. The only conclusion that I can come to is that their is a lot of valuable information on the forums if you are willing to look for it, and their are members that are very passionate about the scene. I plan on doing a lot of research, and eventually doing some mining.
This is a little off topic,  but does anyone have any suggestions on where a newb should go to learn about using linux. I think while I wait for the ASICs to drop I will teach myself how to use it, it seems like it can't hurt to be knowledgeable on using it for mining.

Honestly, I wouldn't bother with linux unless you code or just want to play around with it for fun.

You want reliability and depth of support for something you're doing professionally.

A windows machine that doesn't do anything except mine is just as secure as a linux machine that only mines is just as secure as a mac that only mines. Just don't do anything silly on the machine (like warez, facebook, general browsing, porn) and you'll be fine.

And when/if something does go wrong with your machine... at least you'll be able to figure it out quickly because it's a windows machine and there's so many more users, and better support structure.

[cancerofthecancer]

I just wanted to thank all the members that are weighing in on the situation. At this point it seems no one can prove anything on either side. It looks like the next few months will be extremely interesting.
Thanks to everyone and all of the advice, it is nice to be able to come here as a newb as still get constructive feedback. The only conclusion that I can come to is that their is a lot of valuable information on the forums if you are willing to look for it, and their are members that are very passionate about the scene. I plan on doing a lot of research, and eventually doing some mining.
This is a little off topic,  but does anyone have any suggestions on where a newb should go to learn about using linux. I think while I wait for the ASICs to drop I will teach myself how to use it, it seems like it can't hurt to be knowledgeable on using it for mining.

Honestly, I wouldn't bother with linux unless you code or just want to play around with it for fun.

You want reliability and depth of support for something you're doing professionally.

A windows machine that doesn't do anything except mine is just as secure as a linux machine that only mines is just as secure as a mac that only mines. Just don't do anything silly on the machine (like warez, facebook, general browsing, porn) and you'll be fine.

And when/if something does go wrong with your machine... at least you'll be able to figure it out quickly because it's a windows machine and there's so many more users, and better support structure.

Understood. I would kind of like to play around with it to learn as well as to better understand coding concepts

[firefop]

Understood. I would kind of like to play around with it to learn as well as to better understand coding concepts

I used to lurk around http://www.linux-noob.com/forums/ back in the day.

[MysteryMiner]

So there you go, when pressed for proof... poof!  Nothing shows up.  Haha, love it   Thanks for being so obvious MM, I appreciate you making my point so well.

And thanks for confirming my suspicion of scam again! It is now way past the 6 confirmations required! You are taking this approach seriously and doing it well!

How can I prove that You don't have a white unicorn? If I can't prove that You don't have it, is it a proof that white unicorns are real? Is it OK to sell the expensive tickets to ride the unicorn even if none have seen them and You don't provide any proof that You really have unicorn?

And still not an ounce of proof to back up your claims. 

You act like Real Solid but this time on crack cocaine!

It is ridiculous! Will talk again half year later when the ASIC is still not made.

The sad thing is, I'm pretty sure you actually believe this.

would you like to buy my 35gh/s gpu farm?

I'd be more than happy to let it go right now for say... 25 grand.

If I manage to get subsidized electricity or tap into industrial grid we can have a deal. You send me the equipment and we mine together and split the profits.

I am not on either side, I have doubts too because I don't want to loose money on this. But they did posted pictures

The image is inaccessible to unregistered members. All this looks like typical scam. And believe me I have seen more internet scam than all of you combined. Last picture I seen looks like a MXM videocard for notebooks. I'm sure it is not a video card but some other device and the "ASIC" chips look more like memory chips. The packaging is the same.

[Akka]

For what it's worth, I fully agree with MisteryMiner.

Also, proofing always depends on the person claiming something. Even discussing this is ridiculous.

I personally don't believe that ASICs are a Scam, but I wouldn't bet on it (= prepurchase) until there is proof of their existence.

But anyhow, there are already enough threads discussing BFL.
Can we please make a point on this and go back to topic?

Thanks.

[RHA]

Here you go: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=79637.0

again thanks for the link. Their is a 107 pages of posts though, how would you recommend searching through it to find the valuable information.

At the last page you can find a useful link to http://forum.btcfpga.com.

Ignore MysteryMiner. I mean use "Ignore" button.
It's not worth listening to someone who makes bold claims while he can't even find pictures which were widely republished at bitcointalk.org or at Bitcoin Magazine.

[templeofboom]

The promise of owning a quantum leap in technology for mining, which theoretically would pay for itself in almost no time, is tempting isn't it.

I guess I better hold off on that new pre-ordered kit.