I just preordered ASIC chip, now what?

[MysteryMiner]

Ignore MysteryMiner. I mean use "Ignore" button.
It's not worth listening to someone who makes bold claims while he can't even find pictures which were widely republished at bitcointalk.org or at Bitcoin Magazine.

Thanks for hint! Now You are the first sockpuppet who became ignored by me!

I seen the pictures and I told my opinion about them! Saying that the pictures are fake are bold claims? Saying that the way BFL is operating have ALL signs of scam in action are bold claims?

[Inaba]

And still not a shred of evidence to back up a single claim made by MysteryMiner... just more of the  "Nuh uh, I don't have to provide any evidence that what I say is true!"

[cancerofthecancer]

Here you go: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=79637.0

again thanks for the link. Their is a 107 pages of posts though, how would you recommend searching through it to find the valuable information.

At the last page you can find a useful link to http://forum.btcfpga.com.

Ignore MysteryMiner. I mean use "Ignore" button.
It's not worth listening to someone who makes bold claims while he can't even find pictures which were widely republished at bitcointalk.org or at Bitcoin Magazine.

I did finally get there after quite awhile. I registered for forum.btcfpga.com last night. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone yet, but it does seem kind of weird that they are supposed to start shipping in what, like the next 60 days or less, and correct me if I'm wrong, but there doesn't seem to be any official answers for what the 12v power supply is needed. Just speculation on the forums. The molex, which I"ll be honest with you I don't even know what is, seems standardized. They, btcfpa, "recommends" the seasonic psu that they sell on their site, but I don't see the point of spending nearly $300 for a device that can runn up to 10 basics when I just want to start with 1 unit. Again this is just what I have been able to find out with a couple of days of research and no technical training or education of the subject. I do appreciate all of the feedback from everyone. Its been lively discussion

[MysteryMiner]

And still not a shred of evidence to back up a single claim made by MysteryMiner... just more of the  "Nuh uh, I don't have to provide any evidence that what I say is true!"

Prove that Butterfly Labs have the ASIC devices! Take a camera and record video of assembly lines or engineering samples in action, post the source code of mining software. Tell what fab are used for making the chips so I can contact them and ask if the Butterfly Labs really are their customers. Providing any or all of these proofs will prove that ASICs really are in the making.

Instead of this You attack me with nonsense request for me to prove that You don't have the devices! BFL already promised to start shipping in late September. BFL told 2 weeks ago that the units are tested by unique algorithm (sic) and as a result the performance is not visible to anyone not in bitcoin network not in testnet. This is smart move because BFL have nothing except FPGAs!

You are even more stubborn than Real Solid!

[cancerofthecancer]

I'm also finding it odd that the btcfpga forums only have 118 members, and they are supposed to be one of the only 3? companies about to drop revolutionary device. I'm not saying scam,  but a few things seem, lets say, "off".

[MysteryMiner]

I suspect that the two others are run by the same gang but I'm not sure yet. At least the method of operation is identical. This might turn out to be the largest and most elaborate scam in Bitcoin community to this date, shadowing Mybitcoin and everything else!

[Inaba]

Instead of this You attack me with nonsense request for me to prove that You don't have the devices! BFL already promised to start shipping in late September. BFL told 2 weeks ago that the units are tested by unique algorithm (sic) and as a result the performance is not visible to anyone not in bitcoin network not in testnet. This is smart move because BFL have nothing except FPGAs!

You are lying about this "unique algorithm" BS you keep spewing. You are lying about "promises to start shipping in late September."   

Yes, I attack you because you are a liar.  You lie, lie, lie and when pressed for any shred of credibility to back up your claims you scream and cry that "I can't prove a negative. HERP DERP!!!" 

There are pictures, dates, times, etc... to back up the existence of the ASICs, you have shown NOTHING... not a SINGLE link, picture, anything to back up your claims.  Nothing but your useless word, the word of a confirmed, verifiable liar.

[RHA]

I'm also finding it odd that the btcfpga forums only have 118 members, and they are supposed to be one of the only 3? companies about to drop revolutionary device. I'm not saying scam,  but a few things seem, lets say, "off".

The small forum is simply quite new, and was kind of forked from here several days ago.
Simply use "SEARCH" button at the beginning of the page and search for BTCFPGA or cablepair. Than read a bit.

There are more than three companies preparing ASIC miners, but the others seem to be late.

[MysteryMiner]

You are lying about this "unique algorithm" BS you keep spewing.

I was reading it on Butterfly Labs homepage. I can't find it now and I did not make a screenshot because I did not gave it any importance. I can't prove that I'm right but as for myself now I'm 100% sure who of us are layer!

There are pictures, dates, times, etc... to back up the existence of the ASICs

The pictures are from mockup that possibly can be a FPGA or single nonsense device just for showing to buy buy buy! You did not post direct links on imageshack.us for people to see them and examine.

The dates already are delayed several times. I can invent the shipping date from thin air. This does not prove that I have ASIC to ship. All I see is false promises from guy who just happened to work across the street from Butterfly Labs registration address. What a bullshit! And the BFL is run by fraudster that did just that before - a $25million mail fraud. And You have asked non disclosure in your correspondence with some guy that run in problems with BFL. And in the same scanned picture BFL acknowledged that it is run by multi million fraudster. And the thread was censored by some BFL asslicker who might have some conflict of interest between Bitcointalk and BFL.

And You and BFL sockpuppet profiles here call me a layer because I don't eat Your medicine!

[panda1]

I did finally get there after quite awhile. I registered for forum.btcfpga.com last night. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone yet, but it does seem kind of weird that they are supposed to start shipping in what, like the next 60 days or less, and correct me if I'm wrong, but there doesn't seem to be any official answers for what the 12v power supply is needed. Just speculation on the forums. The molex, which I"ll be honest with you I don't even know what is, seems standardized. They, btcfpa, "recommends" the seasonic psu that they sell on their site, but I don't see the point of spending nearly $300 for a device that can runn up to 10 basics when I just want to start with 1 unit. Again this is just what I have been able to find out with a couple of days of research and no technical training or education of the subject. I do appreciate all of the feedback from everyone. Its been lively discussion

Since molex is standard, you can get a much cheaper psu with less wattage from elsewhere (if you don't already have one) to power your bASIC.

[brudog]

   I ordered a BFL ASICs jalepeno,they're coming.......coming.......patience.

[Fjordbit]

For learning linux, I would actually suggest staying on Windows, but downloading cygwin. It's a windows port of a lot of GNU applications, and getting used to using it will get you used to using linux but keep you in a familiar OS.

[cancerofthecancer]

For learning linux, I would actually suggest staying on Windows, but downloading cygwin. It's a windows port of a lot of GNU applications, and getting used to using it will get you used to using linux but keep you in a familiar OS.

Cool, that sounds interesting. I will check it out. thank  you

[firefop]

And You and BFL sockpuppet profiles here call me a layer because I don't eat Your medicine!

Let me be the first to call you "a layer"... what exactly is it that you're laying? Also, are you a nester as well? If so how long does whatever you lay take to hatch?

 

[benco]

I'm also finding it odd that the btcfpga forums only have 118 members, and they are supposed to be one of the only 3? companies about to drop revolutionary device. I'm not saying scam,  but a few things seem, lets say, "off".

It does not mean anything. I have preordered 8 bASIC units from Tom and I have no account on his new forum. All questions important for me in this stage have been already answered (both via this forum or via direct communication with Tom).

[rchapoteau]

Once/if they come out, will the current software have to be modified in order to use it?  Do they have software they are using already to test this stuff?  I'd like to see a youtube video at least with actual performance results.

[joshburt]

I've also pre-ordered some ASIC hardware.  Should be interesting.

[Rubix]

You anxiously refresh their website hoping for some updated info on a shipping ETA

[ZenInTexas]

I am going to make a few assumptions here.

• You have some technical background
• You are jumping in via ASICs and following a non-traditional bitcoin path, ie skipping CPU, GPU & FPGA
• A big assumption is that you probably didn't didn't pay via BTC, but rather used paypal.  Which in turn means you have a decent amount of personal cash flow or a extra cash that allows you to make a spontaneous purchase - good treat it like a hobby not an income stream and you will be happy with the results

You probably wanted some guidance rather than a critic of your purchase.  It's actually one thing I find fault in the extroverts on this board; the instability to tolerate a deviation from the path they took when they started.  It's ironic considering that anyone involved in bitcoin is probably a non-traditional personality, ie someone who tends to experiment.  Anyway, from what I can tell these ASIC companies are following an exponential startup path.  However, you should realize that FPGAs are slowing killing the GPU miners.  Understandably, folks don't like change when it affects their bottom line.  BFL was the first to introduced a disruptive technology into bitcoin, which many many GPU miners have not forgiven them for.

Personally, I skipped CPU & GPU mining and went straight to FPGA. I ordered after BFL started shipping and received one of their FPGA products; it did what was advertised (I chose my words very carefully).  Full disclosure: I also sold my FPGA and cancelled my SC preorder due to personal reasons combined with the uncertainty that was going to occur to ROI due to ASICs and the 210000 block reward reduction.

Anyway, my advice is to start becoming familiar with mining before it arrives.  I would personally start downloading CPU/GPU miner clients and signing up for some pools.  I would do some research on which pools are preparing for ASICs and the getwork bandwidth problem(research this).  If you don't want to do any research take my unvetted opinion: I would expect that the BFGMINER client & Eclipse Mining Pool would be one of the first combinations to work with ASIC miners, so that's a good starting point.   ASIC miners are going to stress pool servers internet connection, your connection if it's DSL should have enough bandwidth.  However, if it turns out there is a problem, it will be a bandwidth problem that affects everyone, so a solution will be pretty quickly found and released.

One of the other things that I had to figure out late, was how to convert BTC to USD.  I would try do this early, so you don't run into a problem of having to wait when you need $$ quickly.  It seems like the sign-up process for many of the exchange services is increasing.

My next bit of guidance is after you have played with the mining clients, you need to setup a stable environment to maximize your return.  ie computer, internet, routers etc.  It gets pretty annoying if the miner goes down every few hours due to a computer or power issue. It would be useful to setup a watchdog reboot, hardware or software.  If your power is stable you can skip the line conditioners & UPS.  Be sure to setup failover pools in your miner.  If you are going to use the computer while it's mining be sure it's at least a dual-core, otherwise any one will do.  If you are going to run a bitcoind node on the same computer...don't.  Run that somewhere else.

I hope that helps

[MinorMiner]

Once/if they come out, will the current software have to be modified in order to use it?  Do they have software they are using already to test this stuff?  I'd like to see a youtube video at least with actual performance results.

It would be nice if ASIC providers were even releasing protocol specs for communications. I know Con Kolivas (cgminer) was complaining that they haven't yet. That to me is troubling.

I don't want all the new hardware to turn up (when it does) and not be able to use it.