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November 08, 2012, 01:52:27 AM
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Weed has been shown to prevent Alzheimer's, reduce the growth and size of some tumors, kill MRSA infections, fight nausea and help appetite, treat PTSD and other forms of depression, and a bunch of other stuff. You can get a lot more ethanol from hemp than you can from corn and it takes basically nothing to farm because it grows like a weed. Pun intended. Paper, fabrics, plastics, fuels, etc, can all be made from hemp. People that are for prohibition are either crazy, stupid, or are profiting from it.

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November 08, 2012, 01:53:21 AM
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I would say most are crazy stupid listening to the ones profiting from it.


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November 08, 2012, 01:54:57 AM
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Dude.. I have probably smoked more weed in 2 weeks then you have in your entire life.... Some of the stuff you say seems sorta Crazy..... Weed is great yes.. But smoke in itself is very bad for your body...

Unless you only consume your weed by eating it or vaping it, then you are doing much harm to your body.....



If it's a cure all why the fuck do I keep stubbing my damn toe? Weird ass deformity with the second toe longer than the big toe.... HIGH!

I started smoking over 2 years ago, you probably smoke a lot more than me, now.  I can't find a study that proves a harmful effect from cannabis smoke (other than suffocating monkeys with gas masks for 15 minutes, producing killage of braincells).

If someone could correct me, and provide a study that proves some negative effects.  From my experience, I can't attest to any.

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I was not justifying it's healthiness based on the fact it's natural.  I was justifying it's capabilities to cure everything.  I never said therefor.  If there would be a cure all, it would be natural, and if there is one, it would be cannabis.
Don't get me wrong, Cannabis is a great plant. It's a "superfood," does seem to have some anti-cancer properties, makes great paper and cloth, and you can even run your cars on it. But don't fall into the trap of thinking that because it can do all those things, it can do everything.

I mean, Amanita phalloides is a "cure-all" too... have one, and you'll never be sick again. Doesn't mean I'll be handing them out next Halloween.
Cannabis is as good a medical plant as any other (curing Alzheimer, cancer, etc.), but using it without a medical reason is clearly bad for your health. In fact, smoking cannabis when you don't have cancer can increase your chance of cancer.

Dude.. I have probably smoked more weed in 2 weeks then you have in your entire life.... Some of the stuff you say seems sorta Crazy..... Weed is great yes.. But smoke in itself is very bad for your body...

Unless you only consume your weed by eating it or vaping it, then you are doing much harm to your body.....

If it's a cure all why the fuck do I keep stubbing my damn toe? Weird ass deformity with the second toe longer than the big toe.... HIGH!

I started smoking over 2 years ago, you probably smoke a lot more than me, now.  I can't find a study that proves a harmful effect from cannabis smoke (other than suffocating monkeys with gas masks for 15 minutes, producing killage of braincells).

If someone could correct me, and provide a study that proves some negative effects.  From my experience, I can't attest to any.
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November 08, 2012, 02:03:20 AM
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Because you have been smoking for 2 years... Smoke for 15 years and I'll bet you have a much different opinion....   It does fuck with your memory... your lungs....




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November 08, 2012, 02:11:11 AM
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I was not justifying it's healthiness based on the fact it's natural.  I was justifying it's capabilities to cure everything.  I never said therefor.  If there would be a cure all, it would be natural, and if there is one, it would be cannabis.
Don't get me wrong, Cannabis is a great plant. It's a "superfood," does seem to have some anti-cancer properties, makes great paper and cloth, and you can even run your cars on it. But don't fall into the trap of thinking that because it can do all those things, it can do everything.

I mean, Amanita phalloides is a "cure-all" too... have one, and you'll never be sick again. Doesn't mean I'll be handing them out next Halloween.
Cannabis is as good a medical plant as any other (curing Alzheimer, cancer, etc.), but using it without a medical reason is clearly bad for your health. In fact, smoking cannabis when you don't have cancer can increase your chance of cancer.

Dude.. I have probably smoked more weed in 2 weeks then you have in your entire life.... Some of the stuff you say seems sorta Crazy..... Weed is great yes.. But smoke in itself is very bad for your body...

Unless you only consume your weed by eating it or vaping it, then you are doing much harm to your body.....

If it's a cure all why the fuck do I keep stubbing my damn toe? Weird ass deformity with the second toe longer than the big toe.... HIGH!

I started smoking over 2 years ago, you probably smoke a lot more than me, now.  I can't find a study that proves a harmful effect from cannabis smoke (other than suffocating monkeys with gas masks for 15 minutes, producing killage of braincells).

If someone could correct me, and provide a study that proves some negative effects.  From my experience, I can't attest to any.
Ignoring the opposition is not an effective way to make it disappear.
Nearly everything's carcinogenic.  Cannabis use does not increase your risk of cancer, it cures cancer.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page4

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I was not justifying it's healthiness based on the fact it's natural.  I was justifying it's capabilities to cure everything.  I never said therefor.  If there would be a cure all, it would be natural, and if there is one, it would be cannabis.
Don't get me wrong, Cannabis is a great plant. It's a "superfood," does seem to have some anti-cancer properties, makes great paper and cloth, and you can even run your cars on it. But don't fall into the trap of thinking that because it can do all those things, it can do everything.

I mean, Amanita phalloides is a "cure-all" too... have one, and you'll never be sick again. Doesn't mean I'll be handing them out next Halloween.
Cannabis is as good a medical plant as any other (curing Alzheimer, cancer, etc.), but using it without a medical reason is clearly bad for your health. In fact, smoking cannabis when you don't have cancer can increase your chance of cancer.

Dude.. I have probably smoked more weed in 2 weeks then you have in your entire life.... Some of the stuff you say seems sorta Crazy..... Weed is great yes.. But smoke in itself is very bad for your body...

Unless you only consume your weed by eating it or vaping it, then you are doing much harm to your body.....

If it's a cure all why the fuck do I keep stubbing my damn toe? Weird ass deformity with the second toe longer than the big toe.... HIGH!

I started smoking over 2 years ago, you probably smoke a lot more than me, now.  I can't find a study that proves a harmful effect from cannabis smoke (other than suffocating monkeys with gas masks for 15 minutes, producing killage of braincells).

If someone could correct me, and provide a study that proves some negative effects.  From my experience, I can't attest to any.
Ignoring the opposition is not an effective way to make it disappear.
Nearly everything's carcinogenic.  Cannabis use does not increase your risk of cancer, it cures cancer.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page4
Things that cure cancer can still cause cancer. Cannabis is one of these things.
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It helps reduce the growth of certain cancerous cells... (Does not make it a total cure for cancer)


so by using marijuana you might have a 4% less chance of getting cancer than someone who only smokes cigarettes....  (that number is a guess but it's probably close to the truth)








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November 08, 2012, 02:19:48 AM
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It helps reduce the growth of certain cancerous cells... (Does not make it a total cure for cancer)


so by using marijuana you might have a 4% less chance of getting cancer than someone who only smokes cigarettes....  (that number is a guess but it's probably close to the truth)
Someone who smokes cigarettes is extremely likely to get cancer anyways.

Cannabis reduces the growth of certain cancerous cells. That's why medical cannabis makes sense. But if you don't have those cancerous cells in the first place, risking possible growth of other cancerous cells sounds like a bad idea to me.

I will defend to the end one's right to smoke cannabis recreationally, but I won't recommend it to anyone. It's harmful if you use it for no reason.
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November 08, 2012, 02:32:08 AM
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Someone who smokes cigarettes is extremely likely to get cancer anyways.

Cannabis reduces the growth of certain cancerous cells. That's why medical cannabis makes sense. But if you don't have those cancerous cells in the first place, risking possible growth of other cancerous cells sounds like a bad idea to me.
As Dank pointed out, pretty much everything causes cancer. Especially if you're in California. The number one cause of death is birth. Might as well enjoy the ride while you're here.

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November 08, 2012, 02:54:01 AM
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I'm guessing this will affect property values in these states. It will probably drive the hydroponics industry up a bit as well.

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November 08, 2012, 02:59:10 AM
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I'm guessing this will affect property values in these states. It will probably drive the hydroponics industry up a bit as well.


Depends how their laws are set.


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November 08, 2012, 03:01:37 AM
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Will individuals be allowed to grow a personal amount without being persecuted?

IIRC, CO allows "six plants in an enclosed space." Not sure about WA.

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What I don't understand it that since it became legal, does that mean that companies cannot refuse to hire you anymore if they find out that you smoked weed?

Pot smokers aren't going to suddenly be made a protected class under civil rights and other anti-discrimination laws.  

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What I don't understand it that since it became legal, does that mean that companies cannot refuse to hire you anymore if they find out that you smoked weed?

Pot smokers aren't going to suddenly be made a protected class under civil rights and other anti-discrimination laws.  
But it should reduce the number of pee tests.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuPqLVEnd7A

Cannabis has been used as medicine for thousands of years, this information is just suppressed, nothing new.

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What I don't understand it that since it became legal, does that mean that companies cannot refuse to hire you anymore if they find out that you smoked weed?

Pot smokers aren't going to suddenly be made a protected class under civil rights and other anti-discrimination laws.  
But it should reduce the number of pee tests.

Companies can require alcohol tests, but alcohol is legal. It is not about the legality of the substance, it is about the impairment to performing the job functions. If you come to work high and put other people in danger, then you should be fired.

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What I don't understand it that since it became legal, does that mean that companies cannot refuse to hire you anymore if they find out that you smoked weed?

Pot smokers aren't going to suddenly be made a protected class under civil rights and other anti-discrimination laws.  
But it should reduce the number of pee tests.

Companies can require alcohol tests, but alcohol is legal. It is not about the legality of the substance, it is about the impairment to performing the job functions. If you come to work high impaired and put other people in danger, then you should be fired.
Fixed that for you. But I 100% agree. I was speaking of pre-employment pee tests. You know, the ones where they check to see if you've smoked in the past 3 months. (They don't check for past history of alcohol use...)

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November 08, 2012, 05:33:26 AM
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Fixed that for you. But I 100% agree. I was speaking of pre-employment pee tests. You know, the ones where they check to see if you've smoked in the past 3 months. (They don't check for past history of alcohol use...)
Yeah but there is a difference, where alcohol only stays in blood for a couple hours.
So are you saying that those who smokes have to wait 3 months before getting a job?

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November 08, 2012, 07:08:45 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuPqLVEnd7A

Cannabis has been used as medicine for thousands of years, this information is just suppressed, nothing new.
I would not doubt that the human body even requires some of these substances to stay in good health, much like it requires obtaining vitamin C from the environment.

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