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October 30, 2015, 01:59:12 AM
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I suggest that posts in the off topic section dont have signatures enabled, i think we will see less spammers there
i know they will move to other boards but it will be easier to see spam in the other boards

your thoughts?

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October 30, 2015, 02:19:11 AM
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I suggest that posts in the off topic section dont have signatures enabled, i think we will see less spammers there
i know they will move to other boards but it will be easier to see spam in the other boards

your thoughts?

even signatures are disable in off topic section, a post is still a post that will be counted in some campaign like yobit because of automation. the only effect of your suggestion is the users wont see any signature but the posters will still continue to post there
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October 30, 2015, 02:30:34 AM
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I suggest that posts in the off topic section dont have signatures enabled, i think we will see less spammers there
i know they will move to other boards but it will be easier to see spam in the other boards

your thoughts?

even signatures are disable in off topic section, a post is still a post that will be counted in some campaign like yobit because of automation. the only effect of your suggestion is the users wont see any signature but the posters will still continue to post there
It is stupid to think that after time, yobit and others wont edit the software that they use to avoid counting posts in those topics

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October 30, 2015, 02:39:10 AM
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I suggest that posts in the off topic section dont have signatures enabled, i think we will see less spammers there
i know they will move to other boards but it will be easier to see spam in the other boards

your thoughts?

even signatures are disable in off topic section, a post is still a post that will be counted in some campaign like yobit because of automation. the only effect of your suggestion is the users wont see any signature but the posters will still continue to post there
It is stupid to think that after time, yobit and others wont edit the software that they use to avoid counting posts in those topics

at the first place, if yobit doesnt really want to pay for off topic posts they should already set their bot the to count the posts from that section but they didnt do an action about it.

yobit signature campaign is been up for a long time now and many users reported some of their advertisers already but they dont do some actions so i doubt they will edit their bot not to count posts from off topic
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October 30, 2015, 02:50:06 AM
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I suggest that posts in the off topic section dont have signatures enabled, i think we will see less spammers there
i know they will move to other boards but it will be easier to see spam in the other boards

your thoughts?

even signatures are disable in off topic section, a post is still a post that will be counted in some campaign like yobit because of automation. the only effect of your suggestion is the users wont see any signature but the posters will still continue to post there
It is stupid to think that after time, yobit and others wont edit the software that they use to avoid counting posts in those topics

at the first place, if yobit doesnt really want to pay for off topic posts they should already set their bot the to count the posts from that section but they didnt do an action about it.

yobit signature campaign is been up for a long time now and many users reported some of their advertisers already but they dont do some actions so i doubt they will edit their bot not to count posts from off topic
Why focus on yobit?
Yobit's bot is too simple, thats why they count all the posts, if signatures can be seen in off topic, they will be forced to upgrade their bot to filter good posts from those in off topic
Its hard to believe that they will pay for posts that dont show their sg

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October 30, 2015, 03:30:59 AM
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I suggest that posts in the off topic section dont have signatures enabled, i think we will see less spammers there
i know they will move to other boards but it will be easier to see spam in the other boards

your thoughts?

If you want to get rid of spammer is contact who helding the signature campaign or his manager.
And about the rule , it should make for not posting on selected section, example for this case is off topic,
I'm sure that it will reduce some spam on this section
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October 30, 2015, 05:09:08 AM
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I suggest that posts in the off topic section dont have signatures enabled, i think we will see less spammers there
i know they will move to other boards but it will be easier to see spam in the other boards

your thoughts?

even signatures are disable in off topic section, a post is still a post that will be counted in some campaign like yobit because of automation. the only effect of your suggestion is the users wont see any signature but the posters will still continue to post there

What really would need to happen is the signature campaigns not pay in offtopic posts, which makes sense.  Bit-X I believe offtopic don't count (I don't go there often as I find what was your last drink and other posts in it quiet boring).

So find signature campaigns that count it and worst offenders go to their campaign managers and suggest not to count offtopic posts.   That i think is best solution assuming you can get manager to do it.
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October 30, 2015, 05:45:06 AM
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The suggestion is a good thing to reduce the spam a bit but the big step is convincing the campaign managers to not count those which their somehow firm of their rules that first implemented and if you dig a bit deeper, you could see on some campaign threads that a moderator has voiced their concern regarding these spammers and the rules that need consideration towards counting those useless posts

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October 30, 2015, 06:18:06 AM
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It is effective in getting campaign managers to not pay postings in the section but it doesn't stop spam. People would still use it to farm accounts. IMO, a more effective way to reduce signature spam is to set a rule for signature campaigns with auto bots to not count those sections and if it can be counted, manual counting is required.

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October 30, 2015, 06:33:01 AM
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Simply spammers will continue their spams whether in off-topic or elsewhere.
For example, in the other compagns that don't pay posts in the off topic section, politics... spammers will bombard game & rounds.
In this case another member will suggest to not count the post in this sub.
It is like a circle, i will not say i don't support your idea but the problem is that you may reduce their earnings but will not reduce their spam..

Better to report them to mods...

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October 30, 2015, 09:11:51 AM
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Its better to have a fixed rate for sig campaign per week like what ore-mine.org does, with fixed rate spammers will avoided too much bump, thank you, and many spam posts.
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October 30, 2015, 09:23:24 AM
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Its better to have a fixed rate for sig campaign per week like what ore-mine.org does, with fixed rate spammers will avoided too much bump, thank you, and many spam posts.

Not really no. Fixed rates with reasonable requirements in posts do not lead to less spam, but to spam spread over several accounts. This in turn will increase the demand for accounts of a certain level (Full Member+). Thus we will have more farm spam.

What might be a solution though is to proxy ban those running the campaigns. E.g. if you run a campaign and X (maybe 10 or a percentage based number) participants had to be banned for spam you will get banned as well. Accounts running the campaigns can not be replaced as easily as those posting and it would give them a very strong incentive to clean up among their participants.

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October 30, 2015, 09:24:06 AM
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I suggest that posts in the off topic section dont have signatures enabled, i think we will see less spammers there
i know they will move to other boards but it will be easier to see spam in the other boards

your thoughts?
Signature spammers are everywhere in the forum and not just in the off topic section. Like they've said they are l in the games and rounds, investor-based games and even in the beginners and help section etc.  The thing is,  the only solution to stop is for the campaign managers to take action against it. Be more strict with their rules and people might take effort into putting some thoughts in their posts and not just a plain shitty one.

Also the offtopic is not full of spammers, there are actually constructive topics in there, what makes it look bad is the posters.

Reporting them to mods won't stop them either unless they have been reported several times or if their posts are a bunch of nonsense.

 
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October 30, 2015, 09:42:48 AM
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Its better to have a fixed rate for sig campaign per week like what ore-mine.org does, with fixed rate spammers will avoided too much bump, thank you, and many spam posts.
The main reason for so many spams is due to automated signatures and even worst if there's no limit in postings. Shorena is right. However, fixed rate campaigns does lessen the load on the manager when counting posts. They should review each participant individually and ensure that they aren't spamming and is contributing something to the discussion at the very list. I have joined many campaigns which only recruits high quality posters and it does work well.

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October 30, 2015, 09:43:54 AM
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Automated campaigns depend on the initial post and last post. This will have no effects at all
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October 30, 2015, 09:57:04 AM
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It is effective in getting campaign managers to not pay postings in the section but it doesn't stop spam. People would still use it to farm accounts. IMO, a more effective way to reduce signature spam is to set a rule for signature campaigns with auto bots to not count those sections and if it can be counted, manual counting is required.

Agree, like with Bit-X who do not pay you for posts in certain sections of the forum.

Another thing that might also help but which might be difficult to implement is to get users to lock a thread one it has served its purpose. There are countless times where somebody asks a question and get their answer within the first say three posts yet the thread ends up being 5 pages long as every man and his dog keep on posting the same answers over and over again. If the thread is locked this will not happen.
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October 30, 2015, 10:29:29 AM
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It is effective in getting campaign managers to not pay postings in the section but it doesn't stop spam. People would still use it to farm accounts. IMO, a more effective way to reduce signature spam is to set a rule for signature campaigns with auto bots to not count those sections and if it can be counted, manual counting is required.

Agree, like with Bit-X who do not pay you for posts in certain sections of the forum.

Another thing that might also help but which might be difficult to implement is to get users to lock a thread one it has served its purpose. There are countless times where somebody asks a question and get their answer within the first say three posts yet the thread ends up being 5 pages long as every man and his dog keep on posting the same answers over and over again. If the thread is locked this will not happen.

True but it also stops others with similar problems to post follow up questions. Spammers will find a way to post one way or another.

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October 30, 2015, 10:30:27 AM
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Its better to have a fixed rate for sig campaign per week like what ore-mine.org does, with fixed rate spammers will avoided too much bump, thank you, and many spam posts.
The main reason for so many spams is due to automated signatures and even worst if there's no limit in postings. Shorena is right. However, fixed rate campaigns does lessen the load on the manager when counting posts. They should review each participant individually and ensure that they aren't spamming and is contributing something to the discussion at the very list. I have joined many campaigns which only recruits high quality posters and it does work well.

You didn't understand what shorena said. It is not the limiting of post, she is referring to the fixed rate for lower ranked accounts, people tend to spam to raise their pay rate so thus they will make a lot of post and thus that will result to spam.

Also it is not the automated counting that does the problem. It is not a problem to have a bot to count the posts but I think implementing a rule that a participant must take care of the image of the campaign might lessen spamming, let's say there is a rule that if you want to get paid, you need to be sure your posts are constructive, if you want to get paid you need to take care of other participants, such reporting them if they are making spammy posts. Participants should be given a responsibility like this.

 
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October 30, 2015, 12:13:14 PM
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The only way is shutting down sig campaigns, honestly.
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October 30, 2015, 12:17:35 PM
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The only way is shutting down sig campaigns, honestly.

Have you once imagine how this forum will look like without all the spammers making those insubstantial posting? The thing is, we want to get rid of the spammers and not the signature campaign itself. I doubt people will keep working in their postings if they are not getting paid by it (for some maybe). The forums activity benefits from the ongoing signature campaigns.
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