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November 03, 2015, 11:49:06 AM
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everyone has stopped mining it.

I'm curious, how are you intending to ascertain this fact?

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A lack of active mining pools would be an indication that a coin is not being seriously mined in anyway. It's fairly easy to check pool stats. That combined with a missing developer and little to no trade volume would also indicate it's not being mined seriously. I think you have to look at the larger picture when determining a coin's health. PoB is still a new concept and it will take trial and error to get the selection process perfected. We certainly don't want to target coins in a hostile manner. Scam coins would certainly be a preferred target which would help rescue those left "holding the bag" as they say. Suggestions from the community on how to improve the process are welcome.         

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November 03, 2015, 12:57:42 PM
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A lack of active mining pools would be an indication that a coin is not being seriously mined in anyway. It's fairly easy to check pool stats. That combined with a missing developer and little to no trade volume would also indicate it's not being mined seriously.

I think I can discern the main criteria:

Minimally, a candidate altcoin must be PoW-only and listed on some arbitrary exchange. fallingknife keeps a reasonably up-to-date list of exchanges but obviously, only those of which (s)he is aware. I recommend that you address the woolliness of the other criteria: “not being seriously mined”, “little to no trade volume”. In practice you will need actual numerical values, a likely contentious subject. Edit: the volume is at least partly satisfied, defined as: “under 0.2 BTC weekly Average”

The meaning of “a missing developer” is very unclear, there are a lot of unwarranted assumptions in those three words. Apart from the difficulty introduced by the fact that the notion of “a developer” is somewhat anomalous in the context of a peer-to-peer network (there is no practical means of enforcing the notion of an “official” anything), the use of the definite article incorrectly presupposes: that an altcoin must have at least one developer to function, that a developer must be identifiable as such in order for the coin to function, that the identified individual conforms to some as-yet-undefined specification of “acceptable”, etc, etc.

The task becomes even more challenging when considering the assumptions behind the term “missing” and how difficult it will be to operationalise them as criteria when they are so vague and unreliable (“missing” from where exactly? How long is “too long”?)

I recommend you undertake a paper-and-pencil public pilot project which at least touches on as many of these issues as possible so everyone can get a sense of the likely scope and range of application of the principle. Something from the tail end of coinmarketcap's listing that fits the criteria would probably do, or something with low trading (where the term “low” is defined in numerical coin/time terms) from Poloniex’ listing (as they have a reputation for not delisting --- but by the same token, ignore anything on Bittrex as they regularly cleanse their listing, something which C-CEX has also started to do). If handled sensitively, the very task of publicly selecting a candidate alt for this exercise will probably reveal any substantial disagreements and provide a context for resolving them (assuming they can be resolved).

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November 03, 2015, 07:30:22 PM
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A lack of active mining pools would be an indication that a coin is not being seriously mined in anyway. It's fairly easy to check pool stats. That combined with a missing developer and little to no trade volume would also indicate it's not being mined seriously.
The meaning of “a missing developer” is very unclear, there are a lot of unwarranted assumptions in those three words. Apart from the difficulty introduced by the fact that the notion of “a developer” is somewhat anomalous in the context of a peer-to-peer network (there is no practical means of enforcing the notion of an “official” anything), the use of the definite article incorrectly presupposes: that an altcoin must have at least one developer to function, that a developer must be identifiable as such in order for the coin to function, that the identified individual conforms to some as-yet-undefined specification of “acceptable”, etc, etc.

The task becomes even more challenging when considering the assumptions behind the term “missing” and how difficult it will be to operationalise them as criteria when they are so vague and unreliable (“missing” from where exactly? How long is “too long”?)
 
I understand what your getting at, I can certainly do a better job at explaining it. In my use of the term "Missing Developer" I guess you could apply the term lack of activity. If you look at CoinMarketCap for example you will get an idea of what I'm getting at. Coins in the top 20 or 30 seem to have similar things in common, an active developer or team of developers with a well laid out action plan for the future of a coin. This usually insures an active community helping out by submitting ideas and discussing the coin among other things. It also tends to coordinate pretty closely with number of individuals mining, staking, and trading the coin as well as the coins value and price stability.  A coin that can maintain or increase it's value under a healthy trade volume is a coin I think most people would consider to be alive and under development. Some people might call this a Network Effect.  

While you are correct that it should be difficult to determine in the context of a peer-to-peer network in practice it doesn't work that way. People who use and trade in alt coins look to a central figure or figures and the activity of those central figures to decide if a coin is worth investing in. When you look at coins that have no central figure or group steering their development and maintenance you tend to see no activity in trading, value, or overall interest. To most people it would give the impression that a coin is dead and worthless. Whether that's the fair way to determine value is a whole other conversation. I don't believe, and maybe I'm wrong, that a mathematical set of figures, algorithms, or clearly defined numbers could determine which coins are burn worthy any better than simple review and observation of the publicly available statistics could do. Again, maybe I'm wrong and there is a better way.

I recommend you undertake a paper-and-pencil public pilot project which at least touches on as many of these issues as possible so everyone can get a sense of the likely scope and range of application of the principle. Something from the tail end of coinmarketcap's listing that fits the criteria would probably do, or something with low trading (where the term “low” is defined in numerical coin/time terms) from Poloniex’ listing (as they have a reputation for not delisting --- but by the same token, ignore anything on Bittrex as they regularly cleanse their listing, something which C-CEX has also started to do). If handled sensitively, the very task of publicly selecting a candidate alt for this exercise will probably reveal any substantial disagreements and provide a context for resolving them (assuming they can be resolved).

I can certainly make the requirements more clear but I was trying to avoid getting over technical. At the end of the day it's impossible to please all people all the time. I will work on coming up with clearer guidelines as you suggested, as I think that's a great suggestion.

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November 03, 2015, 11:06:03 PM
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Artwork is done and we have also finished moving to a new faster host. This will allow smoother operation of the official mining pool. Original post has been updated.


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November 04, 2015, 12:57:36 AM
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is there free distribution in here?  Grin Roll Eyes

Nope sorry, we may have giveaways in the future.

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November 06, 2015, 12:20:27 AM
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We are very close to launch, just a matter of days. A preview of our wallet QT. Don't forget to register on our site for early access!  Grin


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November 06, 2015, 12:30:28 AM
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How much premine have DGCS? thanks

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November 06, 2015, 02:01:24 AM
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DGCS Wallet looks nice, I love the dark colors.
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November 06, 2015, 02:09:18 AM
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How much premine have DGCS? thanks

200 million credits have been premined for the purpose of Proof of Burn. Some of those credits may be diverted for giveaways and promotions from time to time, but the vast majority will be used for burns. PoW and Pos have no distribution caps but will be distributed very slowly. Between the 3 different distribution methods you can expect about 10 to 15 million credits to be distributed every year until the PoB funds run out. After this event the inflation rate will be at about 1% a year with the two remaining distribution methods until the end of time.  

DGCS Wallet looks nice, I love the dark colors.

Thank you, it will be updated again in the future so it's not so plain looking. But I think it will do for now.

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November 07, 2015, 12:05:39 AM
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This coin is working just fine and everything is moving smoothly.
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November 07, 2015, 01:27:33 AM
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good,continue to finish it
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November 07, 2015, 03:18:27 AM
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Mining pool is up and running now, payouts happen quickly, about 5 credits earned. Just go to http://dcredits.com/pool/ to get the connection details, no registration required.

The windows wallet is ready for download and can be found here: http://dcredits.com/download/

We are working on a linux and Mac wallet and should be released soon. You can however compile one yourself here : https://github.com/intristin/digitalcredits

We are still in the process of finding a Burn Partner and getting listed on some exchanges, in the meantime just save up those credits. Now is a great time to mine as the difficulty is low. Enjoy! For more information you can visit our website here : http://dcredits.com/

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November 07, 2015, 07:52:52 AM
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This coin is working just fine and everything is moving smoothly.

Thanks man, we are working around the clock to make this a success.

good,continue to finish it

We have officially launched, but our work is never done.

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November 07, 2015, 10:01:06 AM
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By the way if you want to donate to the Burn fund, the address is DFvPFp4UhHqPLj55FLEFVatV1Dm9EojBuT

I take no cut of any donations. 100% will go to the Burn fund.

If anyone has any questions or concerns please ask.

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November 07, 2015, 01:28:38 PM
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At least you already have a head start on other new coins.. Not often a website etc is ready at launch...

Goodluck with your project  Smiley
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November 07, 2015, 04:18:23 PM
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is there free distribution in here?  Grin Roll Eyes

Yes, I am also looking for!!!?


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November 07, 2015, 07:18:36 PM
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thanks man, I added your pool to our website here : http://dcredits.com/pow/

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November 07, 2015, 08:48:10 PM
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At least you already have a head start on other new coins.. Not often a website etc is ready at launch...

Goodluck with your project  Smiley

Thanks, the website is a work in progress. We felt it was important to have a site so users of these credits had a place to interact and discuss ideas, ask questions, ect.

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November 07, 2015, 09:56:10 PM
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This really is a solid coin and I urge anyone looking for a coin to mine or get into the crypto space to check out DGCS. Coin is brand new and has a small user base, but I really believe this coin has a nice value set. Check it out.
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