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November 05, 2015, 01:47:52 PM
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The beginning of WW3 is about to start right now.

U.S. Brings Dogfighters to Counter Russians Over Syria

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The U.S. Air Force is deploying to Turkey up to a dozen jet fighters specializing in air-to-air combat--apparently to help protect other U.S. and allied jets from Russia's own warplanes flying over Syria.



http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/03/u-s-brings-dogfighters-to-counter-russians-over-syria.html


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November 05, 2015, 03:13:38 PM
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Spent billions on all of this hardware, might as well use it.

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November 05, 2015, 03:13:56 PM
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The US and Russia have sparred before.
Nothing special about Syria for it to degenerate into WW3.  Smiley
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November 05, 2015, 03:22:31 PM
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I am gonna put it this way: When WW3 starts, no one will even know, because next generation of WAR is not going to be ground fighting as everyone believes, it will be information and economy war, it won't start with big boom, that's how it will finish...but by then, it will be too late.
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November 05, 2015, 03:31:23 PM
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I am gonna put it this way: When WW3 starts, no one will even know, because next generation of WAR is not going to be ground fighting as everyone believes, it will be information and economy war, it won't start with big boom, that's how it will finish...but by then, it will be too late.

All wars revolve around a fight between good and evil. Most of the time the fighters don't realize that the REAL fight is between the forces of good and evil in the heavenly realms, and that the fight on earth is simply the earthly part of the good vs. evil fight.

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November 05, 2015, 03:35:49 PM
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finally! When I hear about WW3 it always remind me this lyrics
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And I, (I),
have ten kids, I can't feed
I hope we fight in nuclear war
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November 05, 2015, 04:59:52 PM
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Nothing special about Syria for it to degenerate into WW3.  Smiley

Not that sure about it. A WW3 can be triggered by the events in Syria, although the chances for that happening is quite low. There can be many scenarios. A few of them are:

1. Russian fighter aircraft shot down by the Turks. Russia attacks Turkey, and NATO steps in to defend the latter.
2. Iranian fighters in Syria massacre Saudi Arabian Islamists. Saudi Arabia attacks Iran, and Russia steps in to push back the Saudis.
3. Assad attacks Israel with the help of Hezbollah and the Iranian Republican Guard. US sides with Israel and Russia sides with Assad.
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November 05, 2015, 11:40:24 PM
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I am gonna put it this way: When WW3 starts, no one will even know, because next generation of WAR is not going to be ground fighting as everyone believes, it will be information and economy war, it won't start with big boom, that's how it will finish...but by then, it will be too late.

Yeah gathering information and waiting for which side strikes first with a nuclear bomb... it will be devastating..

The world have had seen better days with less extremist regimes and governments..

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November 06, 2015, 12:19:17 AM
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I see no sign that Russia wants to fight with the US. They're both fighting the same enemy. They're not very good fighting together, like a team, but that doesn't mean they want to fight each other. The US, Russia and Israel are all against IS. Russia shows some support towards Assad, but he plays a second role here. If IS is crushed tomorrow, we would see US and Russia quickly going home.

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November 06, 2015, 01:17:48 AM
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Nothing special about Syria for it to degenerate into WW3.  Smiley

Not that sure about it. A WW3 can be triggered by the events in Syria, although the chances for that happening is quite low. There can be many scenarios. A few of them are:

1. Russian fighter aircraft shot down by the Turks. Russia attacks Turkey, and NATO steps in to defend the latter.
2. Iranian fighters in Syria massacre Saudi Arabian Islamists. Saudi Arabia attacks Iran, and Russia steps in to push back the Saudis.
3. Assad attacks Israel with the help of Hezbollah and the Iranian Republican Guard. US sides with Israel and Russia sides with Assad.

We have been through the Cuban Missile Crisis and Korean Wars.
Sanity will prevail.  Smiley
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November 06, 2015, 02:03:51 AM
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I am gonna put it this way: When WW3 starts, no one will even know, because next generation of WAR is not going to be ground fighting as everyone believes, it will be information and economy war, it won't start with big boom, that's how it will finish...but by then, it will be too late.

It might be even starting from now on.

Mission Impossible movies and other intelligence versus intelligence would be a possible war.
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November 06, 2015, 03:44:39 AM
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^ economic and information war started some time ago. Or better it never stopped only increased with time.

I see no sign that Russia wants to fight with the US. They're both fighting the same enemy. They're not very good fighting together, like a team, but that doesn't mean they want to fight each other. The US, Russia and Israel are all against IS. Russia shows some support towards Assad, but he plays a second role here. If IS is crushed tomorrow, we would see US and Russia quickly going home.

Doubt it. American and russian interests aren't the same. And isis is only a part of the problem. And when do big powers go home instead of taking advantage of the situation to stay in control? Control of politics, economy, leaving bases, etc. And don't believe america and russia want to fight each other but air to air fighters aren't there because of isis.
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November 06, 2015, 07:07:48 AM
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^ economic and information war started some time ago. Or better it never stopped only increased with time.

I see no sign that Russia wants to fight with the US. They're both fighting the same enemy. They're not very good fighting together, like a team, but that doesn't mean they want to fight each other. The US, Russia and Israel are all against IS. Russia shows some support towards Assad, but he plays a second role here. If IS is crushed tomorrow, we would see US and Russia quickly going home.

Doubt it. American and russian interests aren't the same. And isis is only a part of the problem. And when do big powers go home instead of taking advantage of the situation to stay in control? Control of politics, economy, leaving bases, etc. And don't believe america and russia want to fight each other but air to air fighters aren't there because of isis.

Perhaps the OP article is wrong. Perhaps the U.S. is sending war-birds to Syria for reasons other than to protect American planes against Russian fighters.

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November 06, 2015, 08:39:49 AM
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There's always been a war going on, goverments are looking for excuses.

Try to look at the bigger picture, there will always be people who want power, people who think differently than each other people who got their own opinion about how to world should be and they want it to be

Difference in opinion and rash decision making causes war
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November 06, 2015, 08:43:42 AM
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There's always been a war going on, goverments are looking for excuses.

Try to look at the bigger picture, there will always be people who want power, people who think differently than each other people who got their own opinion about how to world should be and they want it to be

Difference in opinion and rash decision making causes war

Absolutely true.

There are ways for getting out of paying taxes, so that you don't support a warmongers and their war if you don't want to. I wonder if it is easier in the U.S. or in Russia.

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November 06, 2015, 10:30:52 PM
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The US and Russia have sparred before.
Nothing special about Syria for it to degenerate into WW3.  Smiley
You cant be sure. Usa is controlled by corporations who want usa to have perpetual wars to sell thier products.


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November 08, 2015, 01:52:57 AM
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The US and Russia have sparred before.
Nothing special about Syria for it to degenerate into WW3.  Smiley
You cant be sure. Usa is controlled by corporations who want usa to have perpetual wars to sell thier products.

So, they sell them to Russia at a better price, because Russia is poorer, and couldn't afford them otherwise.

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November 08, 2015, 05:31:44 AM
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You cant be sure. Usa is controlled by corporations who want usa to have perpetual wars to sell thier products.

In that case, the corporations would not want to poke Russia, as there is a chance that the latter will retaliate, destroying these corporate powerhouses. So a better choice would be Iran or North Korea, or even Cuba. A war with Iran would be hugely beneficial for the corporations. They will be able to make trillions of USD in profit.
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November 08, 2015, 05:34:13 AM
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Ww3? You know spreading this kind of thing is bad for you and others. Ww3 not happenig because of un and world.
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November 08, 2015, 04:48:07 PM
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'Make No Mistake About It, This Is a War'



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Congressman Peter Welch has done his due diligence. He has studied the circumstances on the ground in Syria and surrounding countries. He has traveled to the region as part of a congressional oversight trip. He has visited centers for refugees on the Syrian-Turkey border. The Vermont Democrat, who serves on the Subcommittee on National Security, Homeland Defense, and Foreign Operations of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, has gone out of his way to engage in debates, discussions, and inquiries regarding US policy in the region.

So the congressman's words should carry particular weight when he discusses last week's decision by President Obama to put US troops on the ground in Syria. After the president—who once declared, unequivocally, that "we're not considering any boots-on-the-ground approach" in Syria—ordered several dozen Special Operations troops into Syria for what The New York Times describes as "the first open-ended mission by United States ground forces in that country," Welch said: "Make no mistake about it, this is a war."

It is not, however, a clearly declared or authorized war.

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