Gaming PC Build

[H-Dev]

So I finally decided to build my PC.
Here are my parts: http://kepfeltoltes.hu/151108/2015-11-08_11.44.44_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.png

The price is a bit over 1100$. What do you think?
(Sorry for the language)

[TheLunacy]

I suggest you to put a 128GB SSD HDD, for system.

[Lethn]

Ignore people ranting about SSD's, while they do offer a performance increase in loading times it's not so much that you'll end up screaming about how long the games are taking to load. When 1tb SSD's are the same price or only slightly more expensive than 1tb HDD's then you should get one. Until then you'll have a tiny hard drive that can barely fit anything on it and only a few games that you can play with fast loading times, after doing my research on the subject this is the conclusion I've come to, you aren't going to suffer that much if you use HDD's unless you're really obsessed about your hard drive write speeds.

Now watch as several people will pop into this thread and tell me how wrong I am without providing any evidence and ignoring the fact that 1tb SSD's cost hundreds of dollars/pounds compared to their equivalent HDD's

[H-Dev]

Ignore people ranting about SSD's, while they do offer a performance increase in loading times it's not so much that you'll end up screaming about how long the games are taking to load. When 1tb SSD's are the same price or only slightly more expensive than 1tb HDD's then you should get one. Until then you'll have a tiny hard drive that can barely fit anything on it and only a few games that you can play with fast loading times, after doing my research on the subject this is the conclusion I've come to, you aren't going to suffer that much if you use HDD's unless you're really obsessed about your hard drive write speeds.

Now watch as several people will pop into this thread and tell me how wrong I am without providing any evidence and ignoring the fact that 1tb SSD's cost hundreds of dollars/pounds compared to their equivalent HDD's

I am planning to buy an SSD later, and if I do it will be 1TB. They are just 20$ more expensive

[Lauda]

Now watch as several people will pop into this thread and tell me how wrong I am without providing any evidence and ignoring the fact that 1tb SSD's cost hundreds of dollars/pounds compared to their equivalent HDD's

Not sure what you're talking about though. There's nothing wrong with a 256 GB SSD in addition to a 1 TB HDD for storage. I have similar setups like that and they are do fine. If one has only 86$ to spare they can get a 250GB one. Considering how much money people waste on crap everyday, this would be a great investment. If you think that the difference is not significant you haven't had a good SSD (not saying it's a necessary upgrade though).

So I finally decided to build my PC.
Here are my parts: http://kepfeltoltes.hu/151108/2015-11-08_11.44.44_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.png

The price is a bit over 1100$. What do you think?

It looks decent. If you can add a little more money, then upgrade to GTX 970 or get a SSD in addition to that HDD.

[H-Dev]

Now watch as several people will pop into this thread and tell me how wrong I am without providing any evidence and ignoring the fact that 1tb SSD's cost hundreds of dollars/pounds compared to their equivalent HDD's

Not sure what you're talking about though. There's nothing wrong with a 256 GB SSD in addition to a 1 TB HDD for storage. I have similar setups like that and they are do fine. If one has only 86$ to spare they can get a 250GB one. Considering how much money people waste on crap everyday, this would be a great investment. If you think that the difference is not significant you haven't had a good SSD (not saying it's a necessary upgrade though).

So I finally decided to build my PC.
Here are my parts: http://kepfeltoltes.hu/151108/2015-11-08_11.44.44_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.png

The price is a bit over 1100$. What do you think?

It looks decent. If you can add a little more money, then upgrade to GTX 970 or get a SSD in addition to that HDD.

And will that i5 bottleneck the GPU?

[TheLunacy]

SSD is only for the boot of the system you will install everithing on the 1TB magnetic disk

[Lauda]

And will that i5 bottleneck the GPU?

I don't think that it will.

SSD is only for the boot of the system you will install everithing on the 1TB magnetic disk

Even if you only save 2 minutes per boot time, and only boot once daily that translated to a lot of saved time. Not to mention every program that you try opening will open faster, also file transfers and whatnot.

[H-Dev]

Here's a Kingston 120Gb SSD
http://www.aqua.hu/mobile/120gb-kingston-ssd-sata3-25-meghajto-7mm-adapter-sv300s37a120g-199965.html

I can push that into my budget I think

[ranochigo]

Your system is pretty decent and is quite alright for a build. However, if you want to save money, considering downloading the ISO to your USB and load windows on it. Install windows using it. You can get a product key online or simply use a program to crack it.

The thermal paste is redundant. The i5 cpu comes with a pre-applied thermal paste with the cooler and no additional is needed. The DVD rom is needed if you use it frequently. With steam, I doubt anyone needs it anymore. When I built a gaming PC for my friend, I didn't even need that. I wouldn't recommend to get GTX970 as it does have an issue with the slower chunk of ram. Instead, if AMD R9 390 or 390x is around the same price range, get it.

[Lauda]

I wouldn't recommend to get GTX970 as it does have an issue with the slower chunk of ram. Instead, if AMD R9 390 or 390x is around the same price range, get it.

The issue was blown out of proportion, I have no problems with that card. Also your suggestion is wrong as those cards are not in the same price range. GTX 970 ~ $315, R9 390x ~400$. One should not buy a rebrand, it brings nothing particularly new to the table. The GTX 970 runs cooler, quieter and uses much less power.

Here's a Kingston 120Gb SSD
http://www.aqua.hu/mobile/120gb-kingston-ssd-sata3-25-meghajto-7mm-adapter-sv300s37a120g-199965.html

I can push that into my budget I think

As long as you don't install many (storage heavy) programs on it you should be fine. My partition on my laptop is ~100gb and it's only being used up 60%. Just store everything on the HDD and enjoy blazing boot times.
It also wouldn't be a bad idea to consider waiting 6 months. The next generation of GPUs is coming and it should have significant performance advantages over the current one.

[Parazyd]

And will that i5 bottleneck the GPU?

I don't think that it will.

SSD is only for the boot of the system you will install everithing on the 1TB magnetic disk

Even if you only save 2 minutes per boot time, and only boot once daily that translated to a lot of saved time. Not to mention every program that you try opening will open faster, also file transfers and whatnot.

Keeping the blockchain on an SSD is pretty cool

[protokol]

That seems like a lot of money (if it's 1100 USD) for what you're getting. I would suggest going for the i5 4690K with a z97 motherboard. You'll be able to easily overclock your K chip to get better performance.

However if you're not interested in overclocking then it makes more sense to spend the extra on a slightly better GPU.

For instance this is something closer to what I would get - 4690K, Z97 mobo with a GTX 970 GPU and SSD/HDD - 930 USD:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Z93qvK

I just ordered some new PC parts, but I went for a Skylake 6600K because I wanted to future-proof my system and get DDR4 RAM.

EDIT: Now I'm confused, are you converting HUF to Australian dollars to get your $1100 figure? Because 238k HUF is just over 800 USD as far as I can see. If you can't spend any more than that, then forget the K processor/z97 board (but I would seriously recommend spending the extra ~$100 and getting them, along with the gtx 970).

[ranochigo]

I wouldn't recommend to get GTX970 as it does have an issue with the slower chunk of ram. Instead, if AMD R9 390 or 390x is around the same price range, get it.

The issue was blown out of proportion, I have no problems with that card. Also your suggestion is wrong as those cards are not in the same price range. GTX 970 ~ $315, R9 390x ~400$. One should not buy a rebrand, it brings nothing particularly new to the table. The GTX 970 runs cooler, quieter and uses much less power.


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Sorry R9 390. It isn't technically a rebrand as it does have a heck lot more of vRam than 970. You can run 4k easily with one of those. It does help with high textures too. GTX 970 even though run cooler, loses out quite a bit and it doesn't have asynchronous compute. Technically, R9 290x would be great too. The only thing you need is 600w+ PSU.

[Lauda]

Sorry R9 390. It isn't technically a rebrand as it does have a heck lot more of vRam than 970. You can run 4k easily with one of those. It does help with high textures too. GTX 970 even though run cooler, loses out quite a bit and it doesn't have asynchronous compute. Technically, R9 290x would be great too. The only thing you need is 600w+ PSU.

You have no idea what you're talking about. No matter if you put 1 GB or 128 GB of virtual RAM it does not change the fact that it is a rebrand. A GPU does not perform exponentially better just because it has more vram. He obviously won't be playing at 4k; also 1 card is not enough unless you want to play games with bad graphics or play at low settings. You obviously have no clue what AMD has done. The r9 390x is a rebranded r9 290x (i.e. same GPU with minor modifications). With others it is much worse, being rebranded a twice (back from the Radeon 7xxx series).
All in all the r9 390 is a decent pick compared to the GTX 970 and they're in the same price range. Although I would never buy a rebrand.

I will buy the GTX 970. Also, I don't need the DVD drive, just to install Windows.

I don't have a DVD drive either (on my laptop) and I have yet to encounter a situation in which I need one. That's a good call.

[H-Dev]

Sorry R9 390. It isn't technically a rebrand as it does have a heck lot more of vRam than 970. You can run 4k easily with one of those. It does help with high textures too. GTX 970 even though run cooler, loses out quite a bit and it doesn't have asynchronous compute. Technically, R9 290x would be great too. The only thing you need is 600w+ PSU.

You have no idea what you're talking about. No matter if you put 1 GB or 128 GB of virtual RAM it does not change the fact that it is a rebrand. A GPU does not perform exponentially better just because it has more vram. He obviously won't be playing at 4k; also 1 card is not enough unless you want to play games with bad graphics or play at low settings. You obviously have no clue what AMD has done. The r9 390x is a rebranded r9 290x (i.e. same GPU with minor modifications). With others it is much worse, being rebranded a twice (back from the Radeon 7xxx series).
All in all the r9 390 is a decent pick compared to the GTX 970 and they're in the same price range. Although I would never buy a rebrand.

I will buy the GTX 970. Also, I don't need the DVD drive, just to install Windows.
And sorry, I am converting HUF to USD, I calculated wrong

[H-Dev]

Can the power supply run all those things?

[Lauda]

Can the power supply run all those things?

That's a good question. I actually never ask myself that because I bought a really great PSU back in the mining days (1000W Gold). The minimum specified for a GTX 970 is 500W. I think that you should be fine though considering how much drain the components have shown at intensive loads.

[Lauda]

And the last question why you not use pirate windows ? you can get more fund to upgrade the hardware.

Maybe because that is illegal and you could end up paying a fine or go to prison? (not saying that MS is actually trying to root out people) Depending on where you live it would be better to buy a legit copy.

And for future Gaming 8GB of ram it less , I suggest you upgrade to 16gb.

For "future gaming"?  Well then he can upgrade it in the future. 8GB is fine at the moment.

[protokol]

And the last question why you not use pirate windows ? you can get more fund to upgrade the hardware.

Maybe because that is illegal and you could end up paying a fine or go to prison? (not saying that MS is actually trying to root out people) Depending on where you live it would be better to buy a legit copy.

No individual has ever been prosecuted for using a cracked version of Windows, only businesses or people who try and sell illegal copies.

Not saying it's the best idea, just saying that instability/updates are the main problem, you won't get sent to prison or fined.

I've never paid for Windows.