Hi hater (to the bears)

[geofflosophy]

This post goes out to all of the bears who think because they have 1,500 posts on bitcointalk since 2014 that they get it.

Keep dumping and see how it feels to buy back in at $5,000+

[FrostStick]

HODL is love. HODL is life.

[RyNinDaCleM]

This post goes out to all of the bears who think because they have 1,500 posts on bitcointalk since 2014 that they get it.

Keep dumping and see how it feels to buy back in at $5,000+

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Are you one of those that bought above $1000? Did you hold all the way down?

[Enjorlas]

This post goes out to all of the bears who think because they have 1,500 posts on bitcointalk since 2014 that they get it.

Keep dumping and see how it feels to buy back in at $5,000+

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Are you one of those that bought above $1000? Did you hold all the way down?

At least let them have this.. it takes so little to make these poor delusional fools happy.

[geofflosophy]

This post goes out to all of the bears who think because they have 1,500 posts on bitcointalk since 2014 that they get it.

Keep dumping and see how it feels to buy back in at $5,000+

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Are you one of those that bought above $1000? Did you hold all the way down?

No the majority of my coins were in below 100 in June.

[Pierre 2]

Holding is better for bitcoin as always. Short term buys and sells can make you lose much.
Also it damages economy of bitcoin.

[mirana12345]

You have to differentiate short term and long term investments. Not everyone enjoys just buying and holding for 10 years or whatever.
I find it much more lucrative to sell at unrealistic jumps, and then simply wait for my re-buy position. That way i mostly end up with more bitcoins each time.
On rare occasions i miss rebuy, yes, i am forced to buy higher, but that doesn't happen that often. Don't see whats with all the hate toward ST trading.

[1Referee]

Traders that are dumping their coins doesn't mean they sell all of them. They mostly have cold wallet coins that they plan to hold for a long time. And coins solely for trading purposes. They just play around with their trading coins and sell to secure profits. That doesn't count for weak handed traders, they will always end up buying higher than they sold.

[jaredboice]

This post goes out to all of the bears who think because they have 1,500 posts on bitcointalk since 2014 that they get it.

Keep dumping and see how it feels to buy back in at $5,000+

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Are you one of those that bought above $1000? Did you hold all the way down?

In a way, hodlers secure the bitcoin network as much as the miners do, but in a different way.  If not for hodlers, price could have crashed far more than it had.  Supporting the Bitcoin price helps to secure Bitcoin's economic future.  The higher the price, the more investors are attracted.  As investors get attracted, more people pile into bitcoin.  Eventually this will aid in Bitcoin's mass adoption.

So to anyone who bought over $1000 and held all the way to the bottom $150-ish, congratulations.  And to anyone who bought all the way down to $150-ish, congratulations.  If you continue to hodl, you will likely be well rewarded in due time.  To anyone who feels the need to insult someone who hodl'ed all the way down, you are an idiot

[fast2fix]

Holding is better for bitcoin as always. Short term buys and sells can make you lose much.
Also it damages economy of bitcoin.

holding few and spending few is better for bitcoin adoption or increasing the value of the bitcoin, if we keep on holding and not spend the merchants who are currently accepting bitcoin payment will halt their bitcoin services due to low transaction/volume. this will effect the bitcoin economy badly.

[peonminer]

Choo Choo 

[RyNinDaCleM]

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So to anyone who bought over $1000 and held all the way to the bottom $150-ish, congratulations.  And to anyone who bought all the way down to $150-ish, congratulations.  If you continue to hodl, you will likely be well rewarded in due time.  To anyone who feels the need to insult someone who hodl'ed all the way down, you are an idiot

There is nothing wrong with holding as an investment. After all, I have a cold storage. The difference is, holding an investment that is green and one that is in the red.. or very red. The cult-like attitude around here is what Bitcoins' downfall will be. There you go! You've ruined it. Thanks!

No one is insulting anyone except you. Did I call anyone an "idiot"? No, that was you, bro! I would never insult someone for a bad investment in either direction. I've made some, and it sucks. Why rub someones face in it? I asked a simple question as a rebuttal to someone who is setting up an obvious "lol @ bears" thread. That's not insulting? Likely just another double standard here...

[manis]

We aren't out of the woods yet.
The bears may still celebrate.
However, in the long run, I am sure the bulls will prevail.

[jaredboice]

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So to anyone who bought over $1000 and held all the way to the bottom $150-ish, congratulations.  And to anyone who bought all the way down to $150-ish, congratulations.  If you continue to hodl, you will likely be well rewarded in due time.  To anyone who feels the need to insult someone who hodl'ed all the way down, you are an idiot

There is nothing wrong with holding as an investment. After all, I have a cold storage. The difference is, holding an investment that is green and one that is in the red.. or very red. The cult-like attitude around here is what Bitcoins' downfall will be. There you go! You've ruined it. Thanks!

No one is insulting anyone except you. Did I call anyone an "idiot"? No, that was you, bro! I would never insult someone for a bad investment in either direction. I've made some, and it sucks. Why rub someones face in it? I asked a simple question as a rebuttal to someone who is setting up an obvious "lol @ bears" thread. That's not insulting? Likely just another double standard here...

Asking a very obvious bull (and likely a HODLR) the following question, "Are you one of those that bought above $1000? Did you hold all the way down?" clearly wasn't you trying to insult anyone was it?  

And as an additional counter to, "The difference is, holding an investment that is green and one that is in the red.. or very red"
Bitcoin has been known to turn very very green in the blink of an eye.  So your attempt at what appears to be investment advice = poop in the grand scheme of things.
Nobody knows with absolute certainty when bitcoin will turn green or red.  HODLRS, however, can HODL and not look at the price for 4-5 years, and then come back and laugh at people who tried to trade the swings and lost.  Ryan, if you happen to be a pro trader who is successful at calling the swings, then congratulations.  *pats you on the back* But please don't go around asking derogatory and rhetorical questions like, "Are you one of those that bought above $1000? Did you hold all the way down?" if you don't like being called out for it.

[LMGTFY]

... if you happen to be a pro trader who is successful at calling the swings, then congratulations. ...

2 years, bro. Not a swing.
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Huh. I'm no pro trader but I managed to buy BTC and sell puts at a few low points, and sell calls at a couple of high points over the past year. I'd love to claim that I am a pro-trader, but I was far from alone in noticing that BTC was swinging between ~200 and ~300. I didn't try and call tops or bottoms, I just took advantage of the size of the swings and traded when the trend was fairly clear.

[RyNinDaCleM]

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So to anyone who bought over $1000 and held all the way to the bottom $150-ish, congratulations.  And to anyone who bought all the way down to $150-ish, congratulations.  If you continue to hodl, you will likely be well rewarded in due time.  To anyone who feels the need to insult someone who hodl'ed all the way down, you are an idiot

There is nothing wrong with holding as an investment. After all, I have a cold storage. The difference is, holding an investment that is green and one that is in the red.. or very red. The cult-like attitude around here is what Bitcoins' downfall will be. There you go! You've ruined it. Thanks!

No one is insulting anyone except you. Did I call anyone an "idiot"? No, that was you, bro! I would never insult someone for a bad investment in either direction. I've made some, and it sucks. Why rub someones face in it? I asked a simple question as a rebuttal to someone who is setting up an obvious "lol @ bears" thread. That's not insulting? Likely just another double standard here...

Asking a very obvious bull (and likely a HODLR) the following question, "Are you one of those that bought above $1000? Did you hold all the way down?" clearly wasn't you trying to insult anyone was it?  

And as an additional counter to, "The difference is, holding an investment that is green and one that is in the red.. or very red"
Bitcoin has been known to turn very very green in the blink of an eye.  So your attempt at what appears to be investment advice = poop in the grand scheme of things.
Nobody knows with absolute certainty when bitcoin will turn green or red.  HODLRS, however, can HODL and not look at the price for 4-5 years, and then come back and laugh at people who tried to trade the swings and lost.  Ryan, if you happen to be a pro trader who is successful at calling the swings, then congratulations.  *pats you on the back* But please don't go around asking derogatory and rhetorical questions like, "Are you one of those that bought above $1000? Did you hold all the way down?" if you don't like being called out for it.

Ehem... I guess I... Let me put it this way;
OP says, "Bears R dum, see how it feels to buy high". So I just asked to see if he was hurt like that in the past. Simple! No name calling or busting his balls. Just a question. Why is it ok for holders to laugh at the misfortune of others?

The "advice" wasn't meant as advice. Only that anyone who buys as an investment needs a plan. "Hold to the bottom" isn't what I would call a plan. If that's yours, or anyone else's "plan" then I guess I retract, but preservation of capital should be number 1 on any investors plan. Even if that capital is Bitcoin. If you set a stop at 20% max loss when the market can continue on a down trend for a year or more, you could have more BTC now. Even if that means buying back higher and having a little less, at least you buy back when it's trending up rather than the belief that it can't fall below X, and all the while, your worth doesn't change drastically. That is the mentality that traps shorter term investors as long term investors. I'm not telling anyone to daytrade. That is a decision that the individual must make. Just have a better plan than "riches for all!" or "Down with the ship" as the only exit strategies.

/OT Good day!

[LMGTFY]

I completely agree with you.
The post you've quoted was a reply to your fellow bitcoin enthusiast, jaredboice, who suggested that what you did there was risky, i.e. only advisable for pro traders. Further implying that the smart strategy for the rest of us is ...you got it, to hodl all the way down, like an idiot, for 2 frickin' years, which is what he did.
What you ignored is called 'context,' something which basic etiquette dictates you must familiarize yourself with. Before typing on the interwebs.

Don't hesitate to ask for further clarification if still confused

Aw, you wee lamb! That's mint, thank you!

[jaredboice]

Swing Trading...Short Term trading.... Midterm Trading... Longterm trading....Don't care what you want to call it.  TRADING.  That's the topic here.  2 years?  Mmk.  3 years.  Alrighty.  Either way, however you call it.  I leave that to you.  Bottom line: If you're not a good trader, you can still be a longterm investor.  ie.  HODLER  

If you're on a bitcoin forum and you're talking trash about people who don't trade and instead hold for the long haul, then you're a troll. If you don't like it, ask your fellow bankster employers for a raise. jaredboice cares not.  Bitcoin cares not.  HODLers do not.  

Plenty of traders missed the run-up to $1200 and probably sold long long long before the peak.  Plenty of traders will sell long before the next peak as well.  HODLERs will still have the majority of their stash through several peaks.  The Winklevoss twins reportedly have never sold a single bitcoin. And they were accumulating with very big money at 2-digit prices. The richest bitcoiners in the world are in fact HODLERs and don't give a shit what some shills on a forum say  

[jaredboice]

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So to anyone who bought over $1000 and held all the way to the bottom $150-ish, congratulations.  And to anyone who bought all the way down to $150-ish, congratulations.  If you continue to hodl, you will likely be well rewarded in due time.  To anyone who feels the need to insult someone who hodl'ed all the way down, you are an idiot

There is nothing wrong with holding as an investment. After all, I have a cold storage. The difference is, holding an investment that is green and one that is in the red.. or very red. The cult-like attitude around here is what Bitcoins' downfall will be. There you go! You've ruined it. Thanks!

No one is insulting anyone except you. Did I call anyone an "idiot"? No, that was you, bro! I would never insult someone for a bad investment in either direction. I've made some, and it sucks. Why rub someones face in it? I asked a simple question as a rebuttal to someone who is setting up an obvious "lol @ bears" thread. That's not insulting? Likely just another double standard here...

Asking a very obvious bull (and likely a HODLR) the following question, "Are you one of those that bought above $1000? Did you hold all the way down?" clearly wasn't you trying to insult anyone was it?  

And as an additional counter to, "The difference is, holding an investment that is green and one that is in the red.. or very red"
Bitcoin has been known to turn very very green in the blink of an eye.  So your attempt at what appears to be investment advice = poop in the grand scheme of things.
Nobody knows with absolute certainty when bitcoin will turn green or red.  HODLRS, however, can HODL and not look at the price for 4-5 years, and then come back and laugh at people who tried to trade the swings and lost.  Ryan, if you happen to be a pro trader who is successful at calling the swings, then congratulations.  *pats you on the back* But please don't go around asking derogatory and rhetorical questions like, "Are you one of those that bought above $1000? Did you hold all the way down?" if you don't like being called out for it.

Ehem... I guess I... Let me put it this way;
OP says, "Bears R dum, see how it feels to buy high". So I just asked to see if he was hurt like that in the past. Simple! No name calling or busting his balls. Just a question. Why is it ok for holders to laugh at the misfortune of others?

The "advice" wasn't meant as advice. Only that anyone who buys as an investment needs a plan. "Hold to the bottom" isn't what I would call a plan. If that's yours, or anyone else's "plan" then I guess I retract, but preservation of capital should be number 1 on any investors plan. Even if that capital is Bitcoin. If you set a stop at 20% max loss when the market can continue on a down trend for a year or more, you could have more BTC now. Even if that means buying back higher and having a little less, at least you buy back when it's trending up rather than the belief that it can't fall below X, and all the while, your worth doesn't change drastically. That is the mentality that traps shorter term investors as long term investors. I'm not telling anyone to daytrade. That is a decision that the individual must make. Just have a better plan than "riches for all!" or "Down with the ship" as the only exit strategies.

/OT Good day!

Ehem...ehemmmmmm... AHEMM.  Excuse me.  I had to clear my throat.

Surely your "question" didn't intend to be condescending to the OP.  OK, sure dude. Seem legit ;-)

Likewise, it's not so clear why you would declare, "no one is insulting anyone except you."  In my initial response, all I said was, "To anyone who feels the need to insult someone who hodl'ed all the way down, you are an idiot"

So, if you weren't insulting anyone, as you claim, then I obviously wasn't speaking to you was I?? Further more, if anyone is insulted by what I said, then they must have been insulting someone to begin with since I clearly stated, "To anyone who feels the need to insult someone who hodl'ed all the way down..." The phrase, "Turnabout is fair play" comes to mind for some reason... ahhh but I digress.

The plan?  You want to know what a HODLR's plan is?  It's very complicated but I'll try to break it down for you.  HOLD. WAIT.  TRICKLE SELL INTO SEVERAL BULL CYCLES.  DON'T PARTICIPATE IN SHORT TERM MARKET MANIPULATION GAMES THAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.  DON'T SHOW YOUR HAND WITH TRADE AUTOMATION THAT YOU DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND OR THAT COULD BE VISIBLE TO INSIDER WHALES WHO COULD POTENTIALLY TRADE AGAINST IT. ENJOY RICHES FOR LONG TERM.  

Bitcoin has to grow by something like a factor of 10 times before it matches PayPal's transaction volume.  Hodlr Exit Strategy?  Start selling small portions when Bitcoin approaches at least a large fraction of the volume from a company like PayPal.  Then sell some more into the next rally. Then enjoy the success from longterm Hodling.  

[jaredboice]

If you're on a bitcoin forum and you're talking trash about people who don't trade and instead hold for the long haul, then you're a troll. If you don't like it, ask your fellow bankster employers for a raise. jaredboice cares not.  Bitcoin cares not.  HODLers do not.  

If you're posting in Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Economics > Speculation and don't trade, you're a troll, you gigantic troll

if you're still a forum-designated newbie at the time of writing a post that calls someone a troll for being a hodler, you are a troll.

Speculation, among other things, often involves an analysis of entry points.  That's good for both traders as well as *wait for it* ...

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HODLERS!!      

That way, you get the benefits of potentially good entry points, without the cons of potentially giving up your position to professional traders.