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November 14, 2015, 09:02:52 AM
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idk, why none of the bitcoin casino starts to have charitable action?
casino profits for sure, and they can profit majorly; casinos are too greedy that just use those dollars they earned to upgrade their stuff while there are still major amount of funds avaliable.

rather than taking all of the profit, why not to donate some of the fund to poverty? if we take some of the profit to the charity fund, then more children in Africa(or whatsoever) will be terminated from poverty and start developing their country.

idea: take 5% of the net profit to the charity like Medecins Sans Frontieres.

let's be responsible to what our world is; if we are not responsible to our earth, then we don't deserve to get served by the earth. too subjective.
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November 14, 2015, 09:14:38 AM
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idk, why none of the bitcoin casino starts to have charitable action?
casino profits for sure, and they can profit majorly; casinos are too greedy that just use those dollars they earned to upgrade their stuff while there are still major amount of funds avaliable.

rather than taking all of the profit, why not to donate some of the fund to poverty? if we take some of the profit to the charity fund, then more children in Africa(or whatsoever) will be terminated from poverty and start developing their country.

idea: take 5% of the net profit to the charity like Medecins Sans Frontieres.

let's be responsible to what our world is; if we are not responsible to our earth, then we don't deserve to get served by the earth. too subjective.
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is there any problem if they dont want to donate to it anyone? we cant force anyone to do whatever we like. they can donate if they want. if a casino make a profit, is it a big deal for you?
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November 14, 2015, 09:17:44 AM
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idk, why none of the bitcoin casino starts to have charitable action?
casino profits for sure, and they can profit majorly; casinos are too greedy that just use those dollars they earned to upgrade their stuff while there are still major amount of funds avaliable.

rather than taking all of the profit, why not to donate some of the fund to poverty? if we take some of the profit to the charity fund, then more children in Africa(or whatsoever) will be terminated from poverty and start developing their country.

idea: take 5% of the net profit to the charity like Medecins Sans Frontieres.

let's be responsible to what our world is; if we are not responsible to our earth, then we don't deserve to get served by the earth. too subjective.
have your say.

this suggestion is intellectual property of "lottery248".

is there any problem if they dont want to donate to it anyone? we cant force anyone to do whatever we like. they can donate if they want. if a casino make a profit, is it a big deal for you?
nope, but so-called leftovers will probably be gone to elsewhere.
their profit is too much that even they make the site better, unneeded funds are avaliable.
i am not here to argue, so let's not to debate fiercely.

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November 14, 2015, 09:30:25 AM
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idk, why none of the bitcoin casino starts to have charitable action?
casino profits for sure, and they can profit majorly; casinos are too greedy that just use those dollars they earned to upgrade their stuff while there are still major amount of funds avaliable.

rather than taking all of the profit, why not to donate some of the fund to poverty? if we take some of the profit to the charity fund, then more children in Africa(or whatsoever) will be terminated from poverty and start developing their country.

idea: take 5% of the net profit to the charity like Medecins Sans Frontieres.

let's be responsible to what our world is; if we are not responsible to our earth, then we don't deserve to get served by the earth. too subjective.
have your say.

this suggestion is intellectual property of "lottery248".

is there any problem if they dont want to donate to it anyone? we cant force anyone to do whatever we like. they can donate if they want. if a casino make a profit, is it a big deal for you?
nope, but so-called leftovers will probably be gone to elsewhere.
their profit is too much that even they make the site better, unneeded funds are avaliable.
i am not here to argue, so let's not to debate fiercely.

even they have billions of dollars of unneeded funds, "should donate funds to charity" isnt right for that as they have no obligation in doing it. well, its their free will if they want to donate then its good but if not then its ok Smiley
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November 14, 2015, 09:31:04 AM
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The idea is good but most of them wont do it, they would have done it by now if they wanted. How many billionaires actually donate to charities? Not too many, there are a few that donate a lot but there are others that donate absolutly nothing and they have billions of dollars.
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November 14, 2015, 09:59:05 AM
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How do you know they don't donate already?

Most people prefer to donate fiat than BTC because they get tax rebates but just because they don't beat their drums and tell everybody that "Hey- I just donated this much money", does not mean that they don't, they don't need to tell anybody whether they donate or not. It's their money, they work hard to earn it (Yeah, running a Casino online/offline is not easy) and it's up to them what they decide to do with it imho.

 

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November 14, 2015, 10:14:45 AM
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There is no difference between casino (gambling) and other service industry. There is no request for filming, cinema, and club, to donate their earnings.
Gambling industry  provides job opportunities to the society, they already pay large amount of tax and contribute to  whole society.
We do not have the rights to ask them to donate funds to charity. The government should use the tax from gambling industry properly.
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November 14, 2015, 10:25:59 AM
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There is no difference between casino (gambling) and other service industry. There is no request for filming, cinema, and club, to donate their earnings.
Gambling industry  provides job opportunities to the society, they already pay large amount of tax and contribute to  whole society.
We do not have the rights to ask them to donate funds to charity. The government should use the tax from gambling industry properly.

Well that's debatible, online bitcoin casinos are mostly not regulated and they do not pay taxes. They are online which means they dont really provide many job opportunities either and you can argue that casinos ruin some people's life so you should reconsider your point.
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November 14, 2015, 10:27:57 AM
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We can all take an initiative to only bet on the casinos who pay some amount to charities .We can cross verify from the NGO'S whether they'e receiving their monthly payments.We should start a new rule atleast for bitcoins accepting casinos for every casino to be able to advertise or allow bitcoins based gambling should have a donation policy.
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November 14, 2015, 10:51:40 AM
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Well that's debatible, online bitcoin casinos are mostly not regulated and they do not pay taxes. They are online which means they dont really provide many job opportunities either and you can argue that casinos ruin some people's life so you should reconsider your point.

The idea is the same though. Take those online clothing stores that ship internationally - most of them avoid the tax of the country being imported into, don't have a storefront (therefore less job opportunities) - and no one expects them to donate to charity. I feel like we associate gambling we something be a problem of society and we're thinking we can use it to instead fix the world by donating to charity. Honestly, I can't really see a justifiable reason why casino's specifically should donate to charity - it's either an all or nothing argument (and a pretty pointless argument anyway considering you'd never convince companies nor would you be able to legally compel them anyway).
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November 14, 2015, 11:05:27 AM
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Donating is a personal choice. No one has that obligation to donate but it is important to donate. But you should not be biased. it seems you only want casinos to donate, what about other businesses, billionaires and industries? you also dont have prove that they dont donate, Improving their casinos does not mean that they usually use all the funds. Thanks
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idk, why none of the bitcoin casino starts to have charitable action?
casino profits for sure, and they can profit majorly; casinos are too greedy that just use those dollars they earned to upgrade their stuff while there are still major amount of funds avaliable.

rather than taking all of the profit, why not to donate some of the fund to poverty? if we take some of the profit to the charity fund, then more children in Africa(or whatsoever) will be terminated from poverty and start developing their country.

idea: take 5% of the net profit to the charity like Medecins Sans Frontieres.

let's be responsible to what our world is; if we are not responsible to our earth, then we don't deserve to get served by the earth. too subjective.
have your say.

this suggestion is intellectual property of "lottery248".

Your kind idea is good if implemented. But you cannot claim these idea is your's intellectual property.  Cheesy
Many people have this idea in their mind, but because they do not run casino, and they are also do not know the online/offline casino owner, they just thing it would be nice if some rich people can help the other "needed help people".
And at the end their just make themselves richer so someday they can implement this idea self. (and not from casino or gambling, you can be more richer out from gambling, because gambling is just for entertainment).
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November 14, 2015, 11:56:05 AM
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Well that's debatible, online bitcoin casinos are mostly not regulated and they do not pay taxes. They are online which means they dont really provide many job opportunities either and you can argue that casinos ruin some people's life so you should reconsider your point.

The idea is the same though. Take those online clothing stores that ship internationally - most of them avoid the tax of the country being imported into, don't have a storefront (therefore less job opportunities) - and no one expects them to donate to charity. I feel like we associate gambling we something be a problem of society and we're thinking we can use it to instead fix the world by donating to charity. Honestly, I can't really see a justifiable reason why casino's specifically should donate to charity - it's either an all or nothing argument (and a pretty pointless argument anyway considering you'd never convince companies nor would you be able to legally compel them anyway).

Well and basically any big company that uses kids in china or other countries to make the materials for them because they can pay them 1000% less than what they would have to pay in US or other country. We have to agree that a lot of big companies are actually not helping anyone but themselves and sometimes they do more wrong than right.
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November 14, 2015, 12:00:51 PM
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nope, but so-called leftovers will probably be gone to elsewhere.
their profit is too much that even they make the site better, unneeded funds are avaliable.
i am not here to argue, so let's not to debate fiercely.

There is never any unneeded funds. Any leftover profit or extra profit will always be the money to run the site. They need every btc because you never know that someone could win huge the next day. Also gambling is a business, business hates charity
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November 14, 2015, 12:16:33 PM
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idk, why none of the bitcoin casino starts to have charitable action?
casino profits for sure, and they can profit majorly; casinos are too greedy that just use those dollars they earned to upgrade their stuff while there are still major amount of funds avaliable.

rather than taking all of the profit, why not to donate some of the fund to poverty? if we take some of the profit to the charity fund, then more children in Africa(or whatsoever) will be terminated from poverty and start developing their country.

idea: take 5% of the net profit to the charity like Medecins Sans Frontieres.

let's be responsible to what our world is; if we are not responsible to our earth, then we don't deserve to get served by the earth. too subjective.
have your say.

this suggestion is intellectual property of "lottery248".

I agree with you and many off line casinos are giving to charity bodies already since many years ( I know at least for the the last 50 years)

let me give you a nice example I experienced 2 days ago. please check this posting
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1020726.msg12954585#msg12954585

guess how many wanted to participate for free and have a chance to win for a charity of their choice?

we had the idea to sponsor in each contest one player who wants to play and win for a charity of their choice

as no one was interested to participate it looks right now as it is a bad idea. but we are still thinking that it is a god idea also for other gaming sites if they offer any kind of contest

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November 14, 2015, 12:19:43 PM
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idk, why none of the bitcoin casino starts to have charitable action?
casino profits for sure, and they can profit majorly; casinos are too greedy that just use those dollars they earned to upgrade their stuff while there are still major amount of funds avaliable.

rather than taking all of the profit, why not to donate some of the fund to poverty? if we take some of the profit to the charity fund, then more children in Africa(or whatsoever) will be terminated from poverty and start developing their country.

idea: take 5% of the net profit to the charity like Medecins Sans Frontieres.

let's be responsible to what our world is; if we are not responsible to our earth, then we don't deserve to get served by the earth. too subjective.
have your say.

this suggestion is intellectual property of "lottery248".

I agree with you and many off line casinos are giving to charity bodies already since many years ( I know at least for the the last 50 years)

let me give you a nice example I experienced 2 days ago. please check this posting
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1020726.msg12954585#msg12954585

guess how many wanted to participate for free and have a chance to win for a charity of their choice?

we had the idea to sponsor in each contest one player who wants to play and win for a charity of their choice

as no one was interested to participate it looks right now as it is a bad idea. but we are still thinking that it is a god idea also for other gaming sites if they offer any kind of contest


I think you are missing the highlights here. Not a charity to a gambler like what you did, and its more of promotions not a charity,  but a charity to a social awareness like the red cross or donate some to help children in africa against poverty
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November 14, 2015, 12:23:07 PM
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well this may be great but you can't force any company or site to donate cause it's personal thing , also maybe they are donating and we don't know
several sites donated to Nepal months ago , so sometimes you can find sites donating money but it's not a rule
as I said it's personal , in my opinion governments who should take care of charities , gambling sites should satisfy their customers with promotions and bounties
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November 14, 2015, 12:31:38 PM
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idk, why none of the bitcoin casino starts to have charitable action?
casino profits for sure, and they can profit majorly; casinos are too greedy that just use those dollars they earned to upgrade their stuff while there are still major amount of funds avaliable.

rather than taking all of the profit, why not to donate some of the fund to poverty? if we take some of the profit to the charity fund, then more children in Africa(or whatsoever) will be terminated from poverty and start developing their country.

idea: take 5% of the net profit to the charity like Medecins Sans Frontieres.

let's be responsible to what our world is; if we are not responsible to our earth, then we don't deserve to get served by the earth. too subjective.
have your say.

this suggestion is intellectual property of "lottery248".

I agree with you and many off line casinos are giving to charity bodies already since many years ( I know at least for the the last 50 years)

let me give you a nice example I experienced 2 days ago. please check this posting
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1020726.msg12954585#msg12954585

guess how many wanted to participate for free and have a chance to win for a charity of their choice?

we had the idea to sponsor in each contest one player who wants to play and win for a charity of their choice

as no one was interested to participate it looks right now as it is a bad idea. but we are still thinking that it is a god idea also for other gaming sites if they offer any kind of contest


I think you are missing the highlights here. Not a charity to a gambler like what you did, and its more of promotions not a charity,  but a charity to a social awareness like the red cross or donate some to help children in africa against poverty

it looks you misunderstood something. the winner has to send the prize to a charity of his choice. if he likes to give to children he will give it to the children in Africa or somewhere else and if he likes to give it to old people in China or somewhere else he can do it. he needs to send the prize to a charity body. what is wrong with this if we sponsor this it is a free chance for anyone who likes to give coins to a charity

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November 14, 2015, 04:35:48 PM
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idk, why none of the bitcoin casino starts to have charitable action?
casino profits for sure, and they can profit majorly; casinos are too greedy that just use those dollars they earned to upgrade their stuff while there are still major amount of funds avaliable.

rather than taking all of the profit, why not to donate some of the fund to poverty? if we take some of the profit to the charity fund, then more children in Africa(or whatsoever) will be terminated from poverty and start developing their country.

idea: take 5% of the net profit to the charity like Medecins Sans Frontieres.

let's be responsible to what our world is; if we are not responsible to our earth, then we don't deserve to get served by the earth. too subjective.
have your say.

this suggestion is intellectual property of "lottery248".


This is a common thing for state and national lotteries who are set-up to donate a very large portion of profits to charities and good causes

But why don't use donate directly to the charity of your choice and bypass the casino/3rd party?
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November 14, 2015, 04:42:42 PM
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It's dumb idea.

If it happened, casino'll become robin hood who steals from rich people and give it to poor people.
Also, who would accept donation from people who "steal" from others. Furthermore, religious people won't accept anything that earned with bad way.

Casino itself is greedy, so it's impossible.
Even they do it, i'm sure they just want to promote their casino & attract new players.

What if we just stopped playing at casinos which don't pay monthly donations ? If we can form a rule and abide by it we can surely change it.This has nothing to do with religious people but helping the needy.
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