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November 14, 2015, 07:44:56 PM
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Okay, so check this out. In my home country of Jordan, theres this new story thats raised some serious doubts in our system. Theres this guy that claims that his mothers signature was forged, and that she never approved selling her share of the land (she owned 1/8th of a 226 acre lot). This was back in 1971. The royal court just ruled in the sons favour and gave him back the rights to the land. Back in 1971 the lot was empty, now its densely populated (about 25,000 people live there), and he gets 1/8th of every house or apartment built. What about the people who bought stuff there? SORRY!

The only way to get your money back is to sue the person you bought from. Then they need to sue the person they bought from, and it goes on... Good Luck!

I tried finding a source in English but theres nothing, heres the source in Arabic.

http://www.addustour.com/17759/%D9%85%D8%AA%D8%B6%D9%80%D8%B1%D8%B1%D9%88+%D8%A3%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B6%D9%80%D9%80%D9%8A+%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D8%A8%D9%80%D9%8A%D9%80%D9%87%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D8%A9%3A++%D9%84%D8%A7+%D8%B0%D9%86%D8%A8+%D9%84%D9%86%D8%A7+%D8%A8%D9%82%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B1+%D8%A8%D8%B7%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%86+%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%8A%D9%80%D8%B9.html
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November 14, 2015, 07:56:28 PM
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Okay, so check this out. In my home country of Jordan, theres this new story thats raised some serious doubts in our system. Theres this guy that claims that his mothers signature was forged, and that she never approved selling her share of the land (she owned 1/8th of a 226 acre lot). This was back in 1971. The royal court just ruled in the sons favour and gave him back the rights to the land. Back in 1971 the lot was empty, now its densely populated (about 25,000 people live there), and he gets 1/8th of every house or apartment built. What about the people who bought stuff there? SORRY!

The only way to get your money back is to sue the person you bought from. Then they need to sue the person they bought from, and it goes on... Good Luck!

I tried finding a source in English but theres nothing, heres the source in Arabic.

http://www.addustour.com/17759/%D9%85%D8%AA%D8%B6%D9%80%D8%B1%D8%B1%D9%88+%D8%A3%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B6%D9%80%D9%80%D9%8A+%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D8%A8%D9%80%D9%8A%D9%80%D9%87%D9%80%D9%80%D9%80%D8%A9%3A++%D9%84%D8%A7+%D8%B0%D9%86%D8%A8+%D9%84%D9%86%D8%A7+%D8%A8%D9%82%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B1+%D8%A8%D8%B7%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%86+%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%8A%D9%80%D8%B9.html


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in the event is unprecedented, it managed to win one of the heirs of a case brought before the courts to re-four tubs of Lands Jubayhah to the heirs after 43 years to sell. The story details include the one of the heirs to provide a judicial complaint alleging forgery of documents rob him of the right of his mother and challenge the ownership of the land belonging to his mother an area of 226 dunams which was issued in the case, the decision discrimination and implementation of a reservation on all the docks where the properties heirs are not cut their own territory only. Under the judicial decision it has been revoked contracts dating back to 1973 and 1971 by one of the heirs and became a decision executive, Resolution, according to Chairman of the affected MP Nassar al-Qaisi ensure regarded as areas of Safeway signals passing through Bamenhal and Abu Naseer and parts of the University of Jordan and commercial area behind the University of Jordan empty areas and it must be re-established to the year 1971. This raises the concern of the population and threatens their properties that fall within those docks on which the Real Estate and projects unrelated to the heirs. The judicial decision includes the 1500 support recording between Apartments residential buildings and shopping malls and gas stations, hotel, land and other and return to the nearly 25 000 citizens have ownership relationship, lease, residential or commercial interest, and estimated property erected thereon, which according to preliminary estimates by more than 12 billion dinars.  Residents and people who own land and properties in four basins face a fate uncertain in light of the issuance of the judicial decision of the Court of Cassation is called on them to form a committee of them to follow up on the matter with all stakeholders to ensure their rights especially as they did not commit a sin and makes their lives and their property in the wind. Committee victims Lands Jubayhah formed headed by MP Nassar al-Qaisi and held meetings to discuss the «threats to their ownership of land and property» in the region after the developments in the file <heirs territory Jubayhah>. Committee issued after its last meeting a statement in which every owner of a drug called on to make sure of his ownership of his estate after he was released decision to re-position real estate in Jubayhah region to region in 1971 after a dispute family happened between brother and brother. The statement said they were still in a state of shock and they do not believe what is happening wondering: How is it possible that after their ownership of their properties for the period exceeded the forty-year-old and registered their land in the land registry to discover They do not have anything. The Commission has decided to resort to the prime minister in case there is a lack of family Magistrate opportunities calling on all stakeholders to immediately intervene to bridge the differences which would negatively affect the investment movement in the Kingdom and the people of the region and that the region the subject of the event include basins 8 and 4, 10 and 148. The statement stressed the need to resolve this dispute, which almost lead to their homes and their stability, adding that if the implementation of the resolution will reflect negatively on the buying and selling movement, especially in the housing sector will be interpreted negatively on societal security and stability of the population and who will compensate for these people and especially that all the buying and selling has in the land registry and not arguments as it happens in other provinces. Affected refuses to return their land to put it in 1971, before pointing out that it means the abolition of their ownership of the land they bought contracts existed before more than 40 years, considering that the decision threatens the stability of thousands of families inhabiting in the region. MP Nassar al-Qaisi, chairman of the victims of Lands Jubayhah stressed the need that the government bears full responsibility towards the people of Jubayhah area. He spoke for »Constitution» for details of the story and its aftermath adding that «for sinned for those affected by the judicial decision«, noting that the decision of implementation and the reservation and put signals Booking is unfair, especially as parents and people in the region possess their properties and lands in accordance with legal mechanism in the Department of Lands and are therefore harmed, not guilty. He Qaisi the need for the government bears full responsibility in front of the whole region with its population and buildings as incurred in other areas. He said Qaisi: We respect the Jordanian judiciary fair fair, but is it conceivable that bears affected Champions contracts for the sale after 42 years ..?. and confirms Qaisi the importance of respect for the judiciary and strengthen the rule of law, however, he refers at the same time the importance of strengthening stability and social security. He added that this issue must be resolved in ways that ensure the rights of all in order to preserve Social Security and also on investment, giving investors peace of mind not to be in a «wind». He said that pay 9% on the purchase aims to protect the buyer and his estate in addition to that the people and the population affected devoted themselves to the payment of taxes from roofs and knowledge ago more than 40 years. He wished Qaisi maintain Jordan's reputation in the field of real estate investment, which is one of the more investments in the region safer and to maintain Jordan's internal and external reputation as it would in the event of a dish decision damaging the reputation of investment in Jordan, both internally and externally.  In the context of the efforts being made ​​to find solution to the issue illustrates Qaisi that steps will be implemented in a gradual start of seeking to resolve the issue with the affected and the heirs of the deceased in a friendly way, and that is to know counterfeiter who is the person who is responsible for the whole thing. He Qaisi saying: We will try to submit a request to the Court of Cassation to consider the topic «objection of others »in order to bring the parties who have no knowledge has not been summoned to come before the court during the trial. The MP-Qaisi need to find a solution to this problem of concern to thousands of citizens, appealing to His Majesty the King and the government to work to ensure maintain the security and stability of thousands of families living in the region.  and hold A large number of people Jubayhah area an emergency meeting after prayers appeared last Friday inside Tallawy mosque to discuss <threats to their ownership of land and property> in the region after the developments in the file <heirs territory Jubayhah>. As has been held a second meeting after the Asr prayer on Saturday . In the meetings the participants stressed that the decision would lead to the disarmament of ownership for these lands as a result of disagreement family nothing to do with him, stressing that this family dispute threatens the stability of the hundreds of families living in Jubayhah. They called to check support their ownership of their property, especially after the decision of the reservation to four basins in Jubayhah, and re-position real estate in Jubayhah to 1971 and bears the heirs of their responsibilities towards their region and its people. The Asthjnoa the return of their land to put it in 1971, before pointing out that it means the abolition of their ownership of the land they bought contracts regular 40 years ago. They affirmed their respect for the rule of elimination and their confidence in the judicial institution, Dr. Abdullah Eagles urging the Prime Minister and President of the Judicial Council, rescued from the unknown fate that awaits them. They considered the judicial decision <precedent never before and threaten social stability for thousands of Jordanian families
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November 14, 2015, 09:03:50 PM
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and he gets 1/8th of every house or apartment built

explain it better, he is a owner of land, not buildings on there

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November 14, 2015, 09:05:03 PM
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and he gets 1/8th of every house or apartment built

explain it better, he is a owner of land, not buildings on there

I'm assuming income generated or rent, etc.
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November 14, 2015, 09:37:59 PM
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I'm assuming income generated or rent, etc.

this is a little money, the rent
If i put on park lot a car, he can not pretend to own a 1/8 of it.

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November 14, 2015, 10:13:12 PM
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I'm assuming income generated or rent, etc.

this is a little money, the rent
If i pet on park lot a car, he can not pretend to own a 1/8 of it.

what you are telling is about a car, but here he owns the land , so the buildings built on that land are not his but now if he tells to remove you building as this land is his , then how will you take your building from the land, ?? it will come under negotiation of rent i think between the owner of land and the contructer of the building.

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November 15, 2015, 12:43:22 AM
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the buildings built on that land are not his but

listen the quote
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1249762.msg12975351#msg12975351

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November 15, 2015, 02:52:55 PM
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and he gets 1/8th of every house or apartment built

explain it better, he is a owner of land, not buildings on there

So we basically have a law that loosely translates to the following:

"What is built on void is also void"

In this case, this man now owns 1/8 of the lot, and anything built on it.

For example, if you owned an apartment, you will now have to give up 1/8th of its ownership.


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November 15, 2015, 07:56:37 PM
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"What is built on void is also void"


This is a case of Sharia Law, or some other civil code?

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November 16, 2015, 12:05:01 PM
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"What is built on void is also void"


This is a case of Sharia Law, or some other civil code?


Not quite sure but it might be
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