Lost Bitcoins into thin air?

[ClownSpider]

Solved

[achow101]

Try starting bitcoin core with the zapwallettxes option enabled. It should remove all of the transaction from the wallet and then rescan the blockchain for all of the confirmed transactions for the addresses in your wallet. If you have any unconfirmed transactions right now, then it won't find them until they become confirmed. I think that will work.

[ClownSpider]

Try starting bitcoin core with the zapwallettxes option enabled. ...

How?  I am on Mac.  I will google to see if Shell can do that.

[achow101]

Try starting bitcoin core with the zapwallettxes option enabled. ...

How?  I am on Mac.  I will google to see if Shell can do that.

Open up terminal and type

Code:

bitcoin-qt -zapwallettxes

I think that will work, I am not sure since I don't use a mac.

[ClownSpider]

from the applications directory within Terminal:
open Bitcoin-Qt.app --args -zapwallettxes

I am letting it load and do its thing.  Fingers crossed.
I would hate to have to download the entire blockchain again.

[ClownSpider]

Try starting bitcoin core with the zapwallettxes option enabled. ...

How?  I am on Mac.  I will google to see if Shell can do that.

Open up terminal and type

Code:

bitcoin-qt -zapwallettxes

I think that will work, I am not sure since I don't use a mac.

No luck.
It did not fix it.

[achow101]

This bitcoin is very much lost.

No it is not. As long as you still hold the private keys to the addresses of the outputs, then nothing is lost.

STOLEN!!!!!

I made this big mass transfer and a new BTC address that is not mine, and not on my list or in my database has taken it!

2015-11-15 00:07:XX  This one small transfer was made to an empty account.
2015-11-15 00:04:XX  This SAME amount was REMOVED from the account!

Can you provide txids and addresses?

So the BTC was stolen BEFORE it was even sent?
How is it possible on the block chain for an amount to be listed as deducted 3 minutes BEFORE it was recieved?

It is possible because the timestamps can be off, up to 60 minutes each way AFAIK. The timestamps don't really matter, check the transaction ids and the chain that they form. That is what tells you which came first, not the time.

How can anyone trust the blockchain when stuff like this happens?

It is not because of the blockchain, it is entirely because of the user. Every time someone loses Bitcoin or does something wrong, it is almost entirely because of the User's own stupidity. Don't mess around with large amounts of Bitcoin using the rpc commands if you don't know what you are doing. You can use the testnet to do that and learn, but don't do it on the mainnet since that can cause you to lose money.

[achow101]

I feel sick.
Because everything I thought that I knew about the Blockchain is wrong.
No, there is no way to find which transaction came first, only the timestamp.
Transaction IDs, are not numbered, they are random, and trust me the chain is just a mess.

No, you are wrong. Transaction inputs are the outputs from anther transaction, thereby linking the transactions. By following the chain of corresponding outputs to inputs, you can determine which transaction came first.

I feel sick.
No I cannot publicly provide the BTC addresses involved.
Trust me when I say the debit happened minutes before the credit.

Why not? Telling me your address does not compromise the security. It may compromise your privacy, but if I don't know do the other addresses are, then I don't know anything about your payments.

I discovered these addresses , all 13, are people or places I have sent BTC in the past.

So now 13 random people got paid.

mother fuck....

Then try to figure out who those people are. If they are honest and trustworthy, ask them to send back the bitcoin. Explain them your situation and ask them to kindly return the lost bitcoin. Most people will do this as most prior aren't dicks to strangers.

[shorena]

Do. This. On. The. Testnet.

Sorry but from all I read here I feel I have to shout this warning out at others that might read this. To me it looks like you are hacking stuff together and hope it will work on the live network. Not only that, but also with large amounts involved.

Btw. there are no timestamps in transactions.

[ClownSpider]

Don't be sorry when you are giving good advice.

What the heck is the test net?  lol
I code JSON and all that on the live blockchain.

What do you mean there are no timestamps on transactions?
Yes, there are timestamps on transactions.
Look at blockchain.info  They have dates, and times.  Even the value at the time of trnsaction is logged.

What is it with people "registering their child's birth on the block chain"  How do you add messages into the block chain?

[achow101]

Don't be sorry when you are giving good advice.

What the heck is the test net?  lol
I code JSON and all that on the live blockchain.

There is a separate bitcoin network exclusively for testing. The coins are easily gotten from testnet faucets and they are worthless so that if you screw something up like you did here, nothing of value is actually lost.

What do you mean there are no timestamps on transactions?
Yes, there are timestamps on transactions.
Look at blockchain.info  They have dates, and times.  Even the value at the time of trnsaction is logged.

Transactions do not have time stamps. There is no field in a transaction for a time stamp. They are not necessary. The timestamps you see in blockchain.info are the timestamps that their node first saw your transaction. This can be completely inaccurate.

What is it with people "registering their child's birth on the block chain"  How do you add messages into the block chain?

There are a lot of ways to put data in the blockchain
Some people use OP_RETURN. Others create special addresses and the data is stored as hex.

[shorena]

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The coins are easily gotten from testnet faucets and they are worthless so that if you screw something up like you did here, nothing of value is actually lost.
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You can also just post your testnet address here and I send you a few tBTC.

[ClownSpider]

Where is this test net?
Does it use the same software as bitcoin?
If it is different, it will not be useful.

[achow101]

Where is this test net?
Does it use the same software as bitcoin?
If it is different, it will not be useful.

Yes. It is in Bitcoin Core. To start Bitcoin core in testnet mode, you will need to open up terminal. The command is

Code:

bitcoin-qt -testnet

This starts in in testnet mode and you will be using the testnet network, the testnet blockchain, and a different wallet file to spend testnet coins. Everything is the same, just the blockchain is different and the prefixes are different to distinguish the testnet from the mainnet. Since the testnet is its own blockchain, you will need to download the whole thing and sync it, but the testnet blockchain is less than 5 Gb since the testnet isn't actually used that much for transactions.

[ClownSpider]

Nice thanks.
And where do I get test coins?

[shorena]

Nice thanks.
And where do I get test coins?

Post your address (still have 25) or from a faucet -> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Testnet#Faucets

[achow101]

Nice thanks.
And where do I get test coins?

Post your address (still have 25) or from a faucet -> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Testnet#Faucets

If you post your testnet address, make sure that it starts with an 'm' or 'n' because those are the prefixes for testnet addresses.