more like what is power useage or watts of one of these are they really ++ not just S3 + your selling as ++ don't know any different ? .
Just making sure form what Ive heard about the ++ you can only get in them in china or over sea in far off places they run at the same speeds as the S3 + but uses less power at the same speeds.
280 watts is about right at default speed, i could have bought two on ebay this summer for 500 for both, i thought was over priced for even two S3, till i read it more then it was to late, they sold that fast .
the hashrate is 450 without overclock. my friend overclock the unit can run at 500 without a problem. one thing interesting about the ++ is it takes only 280w from the wall.
In this case with the ++ speed won't mater it's what hey use at the wall sense all S3 no matter which one even the ones before the S3 + can run at the same speed when they added firmware support for the S3 + all S3 because of the upgrade path from S1 to S3 made it that way, i know for a fact that is true i have replaced a S3 + board in a S3 + not upgraded with one of the so called normal S3 boards and it runs the same as a S3 + .
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as usually i saw this to late or id make a offer no cash atm in buying some thing else that took that from me .
cya .