Transactions not confirming

[Lt.Bitcoin]

Hello Guys,

I am Lt.Bitcoin and recently, I betted on a bet of Ice hockey on DirectBet and won, but the problem is my Transactions are not confirmed yet.
It had been more than 16 hours, still not a single confirmation.

Transaction TXID's:
https://blockchain.info/tx/5f336133e8780ed18f5eac7bd5e633d8cf2efef89a8331b15e1269bba86b41a2
https://blockchain.info/tx/eca2b9b887b35d4b5e29d5a1e93c3927af48db7e4819a51948a6ee584efe9962
https://blockchain.info/tx/e82af1ccff1c636a3a2849882b3b4dc97678c75e4de0dc3ff0764366965ebfc6

May i know what's the problem causing it to get no confirmation? I thought it just takes 10-15 minutes but its like 16 hours and still, there isn't a single confirmation. Please let me know.

Lt.Bitcoin

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[shorena]

If you look at the first TX -> https://blockchain.info/tx/5f336133e8780ed18f5eac7bd5e633d8cf2efef89a8331b15e1269bba86b41a2?show_adv=true

you will see that it uses unconfirmed inputs (little red "U" on bc.i).

Two of these inputs comes from TX without fee -> https://blockchain.info/tx/6b6dbfa31c2bf944d4c2442e915025f46c9a698aaf952a8031c37855a62d5c4e
-> https://blockchain.info/tx/6b6dbfa31c2bf944d4c2442e915025f46c9a698aaf952a8031c37855a62d5c4e

The TX 5f336... can only confirm once the other two are confirmed. I assume your other TX are similar or even further down the chain.

Edit: Yes, same problem or even worse because the chain is longer.

[Lt.Bitcoin]

If you look at the first TX -> https://blockchain.info/tx/5f336133e8780ed18f5eac7bd5e633d8cf2efef89a8331b15e1269bba86b41a2?show_adv=true

you will see that it uses unconfirmed inputs (little red "U" on bc.i).

Two of these inputs comes from TX without fee -> https://blockchain.info/tx/6b6dbfa31c2bf944d4c2442e915025f46c9a698aaf952a8031c37855a62d5c4e
-> https://blockchain.info/tx/6b6dbfa31c2bf944d4c2442e915025f46c9a698aaf952a8031c37855a62d5c4e

The TX 5f336... can only confirm once the other two are confirmed. I assume your other TX are similar or even further down the chain.

Edit: Yes, same problem or even worse because the chain is longer.

Hello shorena,

Thanks for your comment and i am not sure what it is, that U. Can you tell me how much more time will it take for it to confirm?
Also, I see nodes are 0 (1%) - very poor. What's the relation of Nodes with transactions?

Cheers.
Lt.Bitcoin

[OnkelPaul]

The (always correct) answer to the question "when will a transaction confirm?" is: "Nobody knows for sure".

That's the nature of bitcoin. You can't be sure, there are only probabilities. If a transaction includes a high enough fee the probability for timely confirmation is higher, of course.
These transactions were made with zero fees, and their probability of being included in a block is low. Any transaction building on the outputs of these transactions can only be confirmed after the first one gets confirmed, so don't hold your breath for it.

If you want to avoid this kind of problems, you should check which of the transactions to your receiving address have been confirmed, and only use those transaction outputs as inputs for transactions that you create and that should be confirmed in a timely manner. If your wallet does not check this for you then I'd consider using another wallet software that behaves better.

Onkel Paul

[ranochigo]

If you look at the first TX -> https://blockchain.info/tx/5f336133e8780ed18f5eac7bd5e633d8cf2efef89a8331b15e1269bba86b41a2?show_adv=true

you will see that it uses unconfirmed inputs (little red "U" on bc.i).

Two of these inputs comes from TX without fee -> https://blockchain.info/tx/6b6dbfa31c2bf944d4c2442e915025f46c9a698aaf952a8031c37855a62d5c4e
-> https://blockchain.info/tx/6b6dbfa31c2bf944d4c2442e915025f46c9a698aaf952a8031c37855a62d5c4e

The TX 5f336... can only confirm once the other two are confirmed. I assume your other TX are similar or even further down the chain.

Edit: Yes, same problem or even worse because the chain is longer.

Hello shorena,

Thanks for your comment and i am not sure what it is, that U. Can you tell me how much more time will it take for it to confirm?
Also, I see nodes are 0 (1%) - very poor. What's the relation of Nodes with transactions?

Cheers.
Lt.Bitcoin

That U means the input is unconfirmed. It is hard to say when it is going to confirm. The children transactions will only confirm after the initial transaction confirms first. The amount of nodes shows that majority of the nodes don't know, relay or dropped your transaction. This could cause miners not being able to see your transaction and hence won't mine it. You can try to rebroadcast it. I can't find the transactions on other block explorers either. This isn't accurate as there isn't any way for anyone to tell how the propagation is accurately.

[shorena]

In total we are talking about these 6 transactions (link goes to raw TX)

https://blockchain.info/tx/5f336133e8780ed18f5eac7bd5e633d8cf2efef89a8331b15e1269bba86b41a2?format=hex
https://blockchain.info/tx/6b6dbfa31c2bf944d4c2442e915025f46c9a698aaf952a8031c37855a62d5c4e?format=hex
https://blockchain.info/tx/eca2b9b887b35d4b5e29d5a1e93c3927af48db7e4819a51948a6ee584efe9962?format=hex
https://blockchain.info/tx/2a2d7c8b055b17ad0d97a79105778ab4ef5078e1092a9374feb617ec782ef344?format=hex
https://blockchain.info/tx/e82af1ccff1c636a3a2849882b3b4dc97678c75e4de0dc3ff0764366965ebfc6?format=hex
https://blockchain.info/tx/7d65cc54014422dfed75ab338d93b165bdbcf19b01efa6b48a84c650957af3e0?format=hex

If the network propagation is bad, take the raw TX and rebroadcast it -> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_broadcasting

I just did it via bitpay[1]. You should do it again every ~12 hours or not do it at all and hope that the network forgets about the TX entirely and recreate them. From what I understand about them though you need these specific TX to confirm in order to win your gambling reward.


[1] https://insight.bitpay.com/tx/send

[Lt.Bitcoin]

The (always correct) answer to the question "when will a transaction confirm?" is: "Nobody knows for sure".

That's the nature of bitcoin. You can't be sure, there are only probabilities. If a transaction includes a high enough fee the probability for timely confirmation is higher, of course.
These transactions were made with zero fees, and their probability of being included in a block is low. Any transaction building on the outputs of these transactions can only be confirmed after the first one gets confirmed, so don't hold your breath for it.

If you want to avoid this kind of problems, you should check which of the transactions to your receiving address have been confirmed, and only use those transaction outputs as inputs for transactions that you create and that should be confirmed in a timely manner. If your wallet does not check this for you then I'd consider using another wallet software that behaves better.

Onkel Paul

Hello OnkelPaul,

I can understand that but usually it takes 10 minutes, so why its taking a long time?
I sent them via blockchain with custom, no fees and thats the reason maybe i am waiting.

Hope to get it confirmed soon.

If you look at the first TX -> https://blockchain.info/tx/5f336133e8780ed18f5eac7bd5e633d8cf2efef89a8331b15e1269bba86b41a2?show_adv=true

you will see that it uses unconfirmed inputs (little red "U" on bc.i).

Two of these inputs comes from TX without fee -> https://blockchain.info/tx/6b6dbfa31c2bf944d4c2442e915025f46c9a698aaf952a8031c37855a62d5c4e
-> https://blockchain.info/tx/6b6dbfa31c2bf944d4c2442e915025f46c9a698aaf952a8031c37855a62d5c4e

The TX 5f336... can only confirm once the other two are confirmed. I assume your other TX are similar or even further down the chain.

Edit: Yes, same problem or even worse because the chain is longer.

Hello shorena,

Thanks for your comment and i am not sure what it is, that U. Can you tell me how much more time will it take for it to confirm?
Also, I see nodes are 0 (1%) - very poor. What's the relation of Nodes with transactions?

Cheers.
Lt.Bitcoin

That U means the input is unconfirmed. It is hard to say when it is going to confirm. The children transactions will only confirm after the initial transaction confirms first. The amount of nodes shows that majority of the nodes don't know, relay or dropped your transaction. This could cause miners not being able to see your transaction and hence won't mine it. You can try to rebroadcast it. I can't find the transactions on other block explorers either. This isn't accurate as there isn't any way for anyone to tell how the propagation is accurately.

Hello ranochigo,

So, I am not going to get them confirmed? :/
I tried broadcasting them and i got error that they already exist. I am not sure what to do now.

Thanks for the help though.

In total we are talking about these 6 transactions (link goes to raw TX)

https://blockchain.info/tx/5f336133e8780ed18f5eac7bd5e633d8cf2efef89a8331b15e1269bba86b41a2?format=hex
https://blockchain.info/tx/6b6dbfa31c2bf944d4c2442e915025f46c9a698aaf952a8031c37855a62d5c4e?format=hex
https://blockchain.info/tx/eca2b9b887b35d4b5e29d5a1e93c3927af48db7e4819a51948a6ee584efe9962?format=hex
https://blockchain.info/tx/2a2d7c8b055b17ad0d97a79105778ab4ef5078e1092a9374feb617ec782ef344?format=hex
https://blockchain.info/tx/e82af1ccff1c636a3a2849882b3b4dc97678c75e4de0dc3ff0764366965ebfc6?format=hex
https://blockchain.info/tx/7d65cc54014422dfed75ab338d93b165bdbcf19b01efa6b48a84c650957af3e0?format=hex

If the network propagation is bad, take the raw TX and rebroadcast it -> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_broadcasting

I just did it via bitpay[1]. You should do it again every ~12 hours or not do it at all and hope that the network forgets about the TX entirely and recreate them. From what I understand about them though you need these specific TX to confirm in order to win your gambling reward.


[1] https://insight.bitpay.com/tx/send

Thank you shorena for re-broadcasting them, is there any estimate when they will be mined and will get 1 confirmation?
I am still waiting for my reward.

Hope to see some luck.
Lt.Bitcoin

[shorena]

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Thank you shorena for re-broadcasting them, is there any estimate when they will be mined and will get 1 confirmation?
I am still waiting for my reward.

Hope to see some luck.
Lt.Bitcoin

As OnkelPaul said no one knows. My best guess currently is it will take a few days. There are constantly ~3k transactions waiting for a confirmation and they pay a fee. Thus they have a higher priority for the miners to confirm them. You best chance is to hope a miner that has CPFP (child pays for parent[1]) to know about your TX.

[1] A child here is a TX that needs another one to confirm. If the child TX has a (higher) fee miners can include the parent(s) and the child with priority to get the childs fee.

[Lt.Bitcoin]

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Thank you shorena for re-broadcasting them, is there any estimate when they will be mined and will get 1 confirmation?
I am still waiting for my reward.

Hope to see some luck.
Lt.Bitcoin

As OnkelPaul said no one knows. My best guess currently is it will take a few days. There are constantly ~3k transactions waiting for a confirmation and they pay a fee. Thus they have a higher priority for the miners to confirm them. You best chance is to hope a miner that has CPFP (child pays for parent[1]) to know about your TX.

[1] A child here is a TX that needs another one to confirm. If the child TX has a (higher) fee miners can include the parent(s) and the child with priority to get the childs fee.

Thank you for your help, shorena. Hope it will be confirmed within a day as i just have that money and it's on hold.
Thank you everyone for helping me out, Locking this thread as no one can personally fix this issue.

Cheers.
Lt.Bitcoin