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November 23, 2015, 08:13:02 PM
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The average guy in Saudi Arabia may be getting shafted, but it's by the princes not the contractors at the wells.

Same in Venezuela, etc.

Its not quite the same in Venezuela, no.

The oil revenue goes towards funding decent social housing.

Whereas the revenue in Saudi goes towards this :-



- its so the young Saudi/Kuwait/Qatar "in crowd" can come to London to avoid the hot summers in their homelands. The streets are full of em in London - racing up and down like they fuckin own the place, apparently.



So no - its not quite the same.
LOL, y it's not quite the same, no.

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November 24, 2015, 08:45:24 PM
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Its not quite the same in Venezuela, no.
The oil revenue goes towards funding decent social housing.

It is not that simple. The cost of producing a barrel of oil is around $4 in Saudi Arabia, $20 in Venezuela, $12 in Russia, $36 in the United States and about $49 in Brazil. So if oil goes down to $45 per barrel, the Saudis will be left with $41 per barrel in profit, while the Venezuelans will get only $25 per bl. So the Venezuelans can't afford the same luxuries, which the Saudis are indulging in.
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November 24, 2015, 10:35:48 PM
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Its not quite the same in Venezuela, no.
The oil revenue goes towards funding decent social housing.

It is not that simple. The cost of producing a barrel of oil is around $4 in Saudi Arabia, $20 in Venezuela, $12 in Russia, $36 in the United States and about $49 in Brazil. So if oil goes down to $45 per barrel, the Saudis will be left with $41 per barrel in profit, while the Venezuelans will get only $25 per bl. So the Venezuelans can't afford the same luxuries, which the Saudis are indulging in.

Yep - fair point - I can't find too much fault there.
Not that this detracts away from my point regarding the socio-political priorities and aspirations of the respective governments in question.

Here is Rystad Energy’s list of production costs for the 20 largest oil-producing countries:

    Kuwait – $8.50 a barrel
    Saudi Arabia – $9.90
    Iraq – $10.70
    United Arab Emirates – $12.30
    Iran – $12.60
    Russia – $17.20
    Algeria – $20.40
    Venezuela – $23.50
    Libya – $23.80
    Kazakhstan – $27.80
    Mexico – $29.10
    China – $29.90
    Nigeria – $31.60
    Colombia – $35.30
    Angola – $35.40
    Norway – $36.10
    United States – $36.20
    Canada – $41.00
    Brazil – $48.80
    United Kingdom – $52.50

Interesting to note the cost of extraction of Iraqi oil - and we all know who owns the Iraq oil. With the possible exception of spendulus that is  Roll Eyes

Draw from this list the conclusions that you see fit about the reasons the US's oligarchs have shelled out $trillions of taxpayers hard earned in military spending in the Persian Gulf/Middle East over the last 40 years.

I'll not go into the 4.5 thousand US lives lost in the Iraq conflict (none were ExxonMobil Execs afaik) - or the half million Iraqi deaths.


It has to be said, however, that the balance of power has shifted in the energy security wars - it has shifted well and truly away from the Seven Sisters towards the BRICS loose coalition - and they seem to be able to do it without spending almost 1/5 of their publics tax revenue on the military for some reason.


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January 21, 2016, 07:42:32 PM
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Why are we there ?

Should we be there ?

yankee go home... you dont need to be in middle east..

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January 24, 2016, 06:40:16 PM
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Why are we there ?

Should we be there ?

you are there for its oil resources and suck blood of people in middle east.. you have to withdraw your troops from this lands and then peace will come again to this lands .
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January 24, 2016, 09:46:25 PM
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Why are we there ?

Should we be there ?

you are there for its oil resources and suck blood of people in middle east.. you have to withdraw your troops from this lands and then peace will come again to this lands .

Yea, they are just there to rob oil reserves.
NOT

They are actually helping the war-torn middle east to come out of its terrible ways.
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January 25, 2016, 12:05:13 AM
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Why are we there ?

Should we be there ?

It's too expensive to not be there. It would cost he military industry millions. I don't think there will be peace in the middle east regardless of presence of western forces. Israel/Palestina, Iran/Saudi, Kurds/Turkey don't mix very well.

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February 01, 2016, 11:21:24 PM
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we should not be there, and muslims should not be here

your quote explains the solution well. nothing more to say...

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