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Question: Do you Have a Bitcoin Inheritance Plan in Place?
A what now? - 2 (28.6%)
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its on a qr code that was printed on a transparency that was folded multiple times so it splits up and looks like garbage...and now I have to kill you for knowing my secret - 0 (0%)
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Yes - 4 (57.1%)
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November 18, 2015, 08:35:21 PM
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November 18, 2015, 11:16:47 PM
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Mmm.. im on my early 30's.. honestly I don't think about this sort of thing right now. I hope I don't have to think about it in a lot of years. I hope that I can be very wealthy in 10-15 years and enjoy the wealth myself. No one knows I own Bitcoin, I don't have many, but they could be very valuable in that time. I don't think my parents and family would know how to use it anyway.
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November 29, 2015, 05:23:05 AM
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I thinks that's probably more the norm than we could care to admit Sad

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November 29, 2015, 07:02:22 AM
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Shameless plug to my latest guide.  Love it?  Hate it?  Got other feedback?  Let's talk about it.

if i am to believe how nlocktime works (sorry havent looked deep into it), but by going by your description the tx wont be mined until it reaches a certain blockheight.
this means that the tx just fills up the mempool of miners and nodes waiting for the right blockheight to then finally be mined..

with that said writing this tx on a piece of paper in your legal Will is meaningless..
afterall whats it preventing? you dont know when you are going to die, you dont know if the intended recipient will know what to do with the funds received when this psychically predicted death time passes..

you might aswell just sign a standard tx and write that encrypted tx data into a will with instructions on how to push it..

as for your set up seeds.. if you write the seeds in your legal Will, nothing is there to stop the lawyer from reading it and draining it of funds because they have the private keys to send it wherever they want..

however, only writing a signed tx where the destinations are already encrypted into the TX in a legal Will means no one knows the privkey/seed of the originating fnds. no one can change the destination. and thus the only thing that can happen is the tx is pushed, where the intended recipients get the funds.. or its not pushed and the funds remain untouched because no one knows the privkey of the originating funds to tamper or move elsewhere.

which at the reading of the legal Will.. where you would have lets say 3 recipients. there are in total (including the lawyer) 4 people that would have motivation to push the tx.

so knowing your own privkey wont be spread about and abused by greedy people, your at ease, and now you can the give out the other privkeys(of the receiving addresses, not the origin funds) to the intended recipients right away and tell them to keep hold of it as inheritance.

because ofcourse them only having the receiver addresses is meaningless while your alive.. there is no funds in them and the privkeys are nothing to do with your own address that has the funds. it also means the lawyer wont ever see any privkeys, either because you only handed a signed tx to the lawyer and because you handed the recipient privkeys direct to the inheritors, and not via the lawyer.

in short
just write a signed tx in your will.. and hand the recipient addresses to the recipients. then you dont have to worry about anyone else messing with the funds because they wont have the privkeys to the original funds

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November 29, 2015, 07:11:48 AM
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Shameless plug to my latest guide.  Love it?  Hate it?  Got other feedback?  Let's talk about it.

if i am to believe how nlocktime works (sorry havent looked deep into it), but by going by your description the tx wont be mined until it reaches a certain blockheight.
this means that the tx just fills up the mempool of miners and nodes waiting for the right blockheight to then finally be mined..
Yes.
-snip-
in short
just write a signed tx in your will.. and hand the recipient addresses to the recipients. then you dont have to worry about anyone else messing with the funds because they wont have the privkeys to the original funds
A signed TX requires the inputs to be unspent to be valid. Unless you're sure that you are not going to spend those inputs, you can do it. However, it isn't the case, you are most likely going to do it. And, what if the private keys of the destination address gets forgotten after a long time? Isn't it a better idea to just create a n of m multisig and give one each to the heirs, one in your will and keep a few for yourself. This way, you can spend them and there isn't much risk to it.

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November 29, 2015, 07:31:25 AM
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Shameless plug to my latest guide.  Love it?  Hate it?  Got other feedback?  Let's talk about it.

if i am to believe how nlocktime works (sorry havent looked deep into it), but by going by your description the tx wont be mined until it reaches a certain blockheight.
this means that the tx just fills up the mempool of miners and nodes waiting for the right blockheight to then finally be mined..
Yes.
-snip-
in short
just write a signed tx in your will.. and hand the recipient addresses to the recipients. then you dont have to worry about anyone else messing with the funds because they wont have the privkeys to the original funds
A signed TX requires the inputs to be unspent to be valid. Unless you're sure that you are not going to spend those inputs, you can do it. However, it isn't the case, you are most likely going to do it. And, what if the private keys of the destination address gets forgotten after a long time? Isn't it a better idea to just create a n of m multisig and give one each to the heirs, one in your will and keep a few for yourself. This way, you can spend them and there isn't much risk to it.

if you put multisig into a legal Will and hand out privkeys to recipients... the recipients could forget them too...
so pretending the recipients wont forget.. then my idea remains valid.
same goes for the bit where you said if i was going to spend it or not.. again if i spend it there will be no funds to inherit. thus lets pretend i put aside funds i WONT touch... my idea still stands.

i still think giving anyone the privkeys of the original funds, allows recipients collude and work together to raid your funds before death.
so best to just have a signed tx. and only give out recipient address privkeys

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November 29, 2015, 07:38:49 AM
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Shameless plug to my latest guide.  Love it?  Hate it?  Got other feedback?  Let's talk about it.

if i am to believe how nlocktime works (sorry havent looked deep into it), but by going by your description the tx wont be mined until it reaches a certain blockheight.
this means that the tx just fills up the mempool of miners and nodes waiting for the right blockheight to then finally be mined..
Yes.
-snip-
in short
just write a signed tx in your will.. and hand the recipient addresses to the recipients. then you dont have to worry about anyone else messing with the funds because they wont have the privkeys to the original funds
A signed TX requires the inputs to be unspent to be valid. Unless you're sure that you are not going to spend those inputs, you can do it. However, it isn't the case, you are most likely going to do it. And, what if the private keys of the destination address gets forgotten after a long time? Isn't it a better idea to just create a n of m multisig and give one each to the heirs, one in your will and keep a few for yourself. This way, you can spend them and there isn't much risk to it.

if you put multisig into a legal Will and hand out privkeys to recipients... the recipients could forget them too...
so pretending the recipients wont forget.. then my idea remains valid.
same goes for the bit where you said if i was going to spend it or not.. again if i spend it there will be no funds to inherit. thus lets pretend i put aside funds i WONT touch... my idea still stands.

i still think giving anyone the privkeys of the original funds, allows recipients collude and work together to raid your funds before death.
so best to just have a signed tx. and only give out recipient address privkeys


I'll clarify this part. There is a way that was discussed in the technical support section which only makes a transaction valid if a specific key is used to sign. Include that into your will and there is nothing much to worry. You can create redundancy with multisig.

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November 29, 2015, 08:13:21 AM
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A signed transaction seems to be a good idea.
I have right now kept the seed of my electrum wallet in a secure place, which will be accessible to my heirs after my death.
I should have a relook at my plan.


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November 29, 2015, 09:07:29 AM
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Nope, but I wouldn't spend all my coin before I die.
Maybe I will make a plan to save some coins for inheritance, it's a good idea actually.

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