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November 20, 2015, 07:07:49 AM
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Anyone know if they plan an S8 ?
My predict would be 2600 W  with dual PSU with around 10-11 th/s


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November 20, 2015, 07:23:09 AM
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isn't this the same watt hash ratio of the s7 just bigger? what's the point for more density? i was thinking that they should focus on efficiency more if they want to release something new

they can do a s7+ for a bulkier miners based on the s7 board
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November 20, 2015, 09:19:02 AM
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Yes I think the Even numbered S series has been replaced with the + Series. So as Amph has said next logical step is the S7+, a 3 Bay S7, controller already has the connectors, should give us, dependant on what flavour of S7 we have progressed to.  Smiley At least 15GH/s.

As to S9 well who knows, probably depends on how the Samsung 14nm chip development goes? Will be interesting to see how  LECT /BW.com do with the B-Eleven?

I found this comment from Sean Walsh, Founder of BlockC in BitcoinMagazine interesting.

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“What I can tell you is that Avalon was offered the 14nm Samsung chip many months ago, and they declined,” explained Sean Walsh, Founder of BlockC, in an interview with Bitcoin Magazine . “The 14nm process node is very new, very slow to design/produce, very difficult, very expensive and doesn't currently yield efficiency gains that even come close to compensating for all this. Avalon will produce at smaller process nodes, but only once it actually makes financial sense to do so.”


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November 20, 2015, 10:21:05 AM
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I don't anticipate an S8 release.

 I WOULD bet on an eventual "S7+" release, once they get the bloody things working in a stable way.


 I also anticipate the Bitmain will join the 14/16nm mining chip crowd but they'll go straight to "full custom" with BitFury and KnC have claimed to have tape-out or production on rather than doing the non-custom design like the Lketc / Innosilicon chip design(s) appear to be.



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November 20, 2015, 12:46:13 PM
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First there should be S7+, actually no big reason how it is called, the best thing would be that the new miner could offer even greater efficienfy.

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November 20, 2015, 02:45:21 PM
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First there should be S7+, actually no big reason how it is called, the best thing would be that the new miner could offer even greater efficienfy.

I think it is likely they will lead to the S7+ eventually.  I think they need to get a design down first and stick with it on speed.   As of right now every batch seems to be a new speed.... which is interesting and odd.

Once they get it finnaly down.  I think it is likely a S7+.   It might take the B-11 coming out.  They show it with different speeds up to 10T (Hashrate: 3TH/s, 5TH/s or 10TH/s options).   If they come out with that I think there then would be a push for S7+.  But I think bitmain will need a little push to do it.
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November 20, 2015, 10:16:59 PM
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I don't anticipate an S8 release.

 I WOULD bet on an eventual "S7+" release, once they get the bloody things working in a stable way.


 I also anticipate the Bitmain will join the 14/16nm mining chip crowd but they'll go straight to "full custom" with BitFury and KnC have claimed to have tape-out or production on rather than doing the non-custom design like the Lketc / Innosilicon chip design(s) appear to be.





True knowing bitcoin they will first launch there S7 +, even though the hashrate of the last batches were different

Batch 8  Hash Rate: 4.73 TH/s ±5%
Batch 7 Hash Rate: 5.06 TH/s ±5%
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November 20, 2015, 10:27:30 PM
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S8 will almost certainly be a 14nm or 10nm design, otherwise it doesnt have a hope in hell of competing after the halving.

We will probably see an S7+ first, but who knows what that will actually be, will it be a bunch of S7 strapped together (like S5+), or will it be a more stable and efficient s7 (like s3+).
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I'm guessing (hoping) we don't see an S8 until July of 2016.  I would expect we'd see something like 8TH/s @ 1250 watts.

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November 20, 2015, 10:38:35 PM
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S8 will almost certainly be a 14nm or 10nm design, otherwise it doesnt have a hope in hell of competing after the halving.

We will probably see an S7+ first, but who knows what that will actually be, will it be a bunch of S7 strapped together (like S5+), or will it be a more stable and efficient s7 (like s3+).

One thing to keep in mind was S5+ was pretty short amount of time and one batch.  There were S7 rumors all around during the release so we had a good guess it would be soon. 

But they can switch pretty quick as we have seen.   I mean really every batch of S7's is a question on speed at this point.   So I still think we have a while with it as their new product.

If we make it to July as OgNasty mentioned I would be thrilled.  I hope it's around then when they move to next gen I want to ride out this gen as long as we can.
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November 20, 2015, 10:41:13 PM
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I'm guessing (hoping) we don't see an S8 until July of 2016.  I would expect we'd see something like 8TH/s @ 1250 watts.

interesting to think the s-7 is only 60 day old and we are talking s-8

the s-7+  may have 4 s-7 cases  slide them together use 2 boards each with 2 heatsinks each.  8 boards slight downclock  = 8 x 1500 or 12th  but .2 watts or 2400 watts.

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November 21, 2015, 12:42:25 AM
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I don't anticipate an S8 release.

 I WOULD bet on an eventual "S7+" release, once they get the bloody things working in a stable way.


 I also anticipate the Bitmain will join the 14/16nm mining chip crowd but they'll go straight to "full custom" with BitFury and KnC have claimed to have tape-out or production on rather than doing the non-custom design like the Lketc / Innosilicon chip design(s) appear to be.





True knowing bitcoin they will first launch there S7 +, even though the hashrate of the last batches were different

Batch 8  Hash Rate: 4.73 TH/s ±5%
Batch 7 Hash Rate: 5.06 TH/s ±5%

Yes, how can the latter batch be less efficient?

I don't understand it.
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November 21, 2015, 05:32:59 AM
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The way things are going the S7 will be obsolete in 6 months or less the way difficulty is going, so ya something twice as efficient will have to come out.  I think a 10 th unit that consumes 1200 watts or a little less could be a prediction.  Who knows what will really happen and in what time frame but it would have to be before the halving to even keep us going in the future.
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November 21, 2015, 05:39:11 AM
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I don't anticipate an S8 release.

 I WOULD bet on an eventual "S7+" release, once they get the bloody things working in a stable way.


 I also anticipate the Bitmain will join the 14/16nm mining chip crowd but they'll go straight to "full custom" with BitFury and KnC have claimed to have tape-out or production on rather than doing the non-custom design like the Lketc / Innosilicon chip design(s) appear to be.





True knowing bitcoin they will first launch there S7 +, even though the hashrate of the last batches were different

Batch 8  Hash Rate: 4.73 TH/s ±5%
Batch 7 Hash Rate: 5.06 TH/s ±5%
Yes, how can the latter batch be less efficient?

I don't understand it.

It makes me wonder if their chips are varying a lot on quality.  Where each batch they make it's pretty random on what quality of chip comes out.  There has to be something as they sure are not changing speed just for fun of it.

But we likely will never know as most of the information like that will be locked tight under NDA and anyone who knows chances are can't tell.
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November 21, 2015, 06:21:35 PM
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Well they could tell but you know its China so they would just cut your throat if you leak info.  We will never know these deep Chinese secrets.
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November 21, 2015, 06:34:02 PM
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they should think of the little guys like us who mine at home and can't afford those expensive S7's !
they should make an S7 home edition.which has fans that are really quiet and doesn't consume alot of wattage that hashes around 1.5/2 Ths and is affordable :-P

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November 21, 2015, 08:32:21 PM
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The Antminer  S8? What about the Antminer S6

The Antminer  S6 should be like the Antminer S2, S4 so a bigger unit with more hashing power and higher shipping cost.
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November 21, 2015, 11:05:44 PM
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they should think of the little guys like us who mine at home and can't afford those expensive S7's !
they should make an S7 home edition.which has fans that are really quiet and doesn't consume alot of wattage that hashes around 1.5/2 Ths and is affordable :-P

S7 is the "@home" miner, asic makers only want to sell to large company's now and they basically don't give a shit about the hobbyist.  So we have to be happy that at least we still have bitmain to buy from, otherwise we would be out of the game.  But I agree a true light version of the S7 would be amazeballs, like a 2 th unit that uses 500 watts or so and then we could use all our old PSUs that are collecting dust.
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your ideea with a light miner seems good to me.
A miner with like 2.5 Th/s and just 700 W or so, that would be nice !


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November 22, 2015, 12:17:35 AM
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S7 is the "@home" miner, asic makers only want to sell to large company's now and they basically don't give a shit about the hobbyist.  So we have to be happy that at least we still have bitmain to buy from, otherwise we would be out of the game.  But I agree a true light version of the S7 would be amazeballs, like a 2 th unit that uses 500 watts or so and then we could use all our old PSUs that are collecting dust.

for  now the best home use from bitmain is the S3 IMHO,and the reason why I say that is because it does not run loud compared to the s5 and s7. I know we can change the fans on the latters but still :-p
I do look forward to the new products that they will eventually come out with hehe

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