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November 28, 2015, 12:38:47 PM |
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it is correct - NO is there any direct way how to change it - NO is there any indirect way how to change it - YES. just disable signature campaigns at it will fix situation faster, than you can even imagine
That would indeed make forum accounts worth way less and probably no one would farm them anymore but in that case the only ones that would buy would be potential scammers because why else would you buy an account ? But I agree that disabling signatures is a good idea, it would also help with the spam, a lot.
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November 28, 2015, 03:35:41 PM |
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it is correct - NO is there any direct way how to change it - NO is there any indirect way how to change it - YES. just disable signature campaigns at it will fix situation faster, than you can even imagine
That would indeed make forum accounts worth way less and probably no one would farm them anymore but in that case the only ones that would buy would be potential scammers because why else would you buy an account ? But I agree that disabling signatures is a good idea, it would also help with the spam, a lot. not just spam but again and again posted bullshit just to have post. let's take gaming section as example. majority of signature campaigns are about promoting some casino/gambling site and because of this, they are usually encouraging involved whores to post in the section. you can avoid scammers if you are smart enough, but you can't avoid spamming whores to get some dollars for posting non-sense. ignoring them doesn't work at all, because account farming is in progress and new accounts still popping up..
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November 28, 2015, 03:42:26 PM |
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I voted yes as well. I don't believe there's any harm in selling an account as long as everything has gone smoothly between both parties. Most people use these account for signature campaigns anyway.
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November 28, 2015, 04:18:44 PM |
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I voted yes as well. I don't believe there's any harm in selling an account as long as everything has gone smoothly between both parties. Most people use these account for signature campaigns anyway.
you know nothing Thomas. or you are just naive, or stupid. or both.
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November 28, 2015, 11:11:08 PM |
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I voted yes as well. I don't believe there's any harm in selling an account as long as everything has gone smoothly between both parties. Most people use these account for signature campaigns anyway.
you know nothing Thomas. or you are just naive, or stupid. or both. probably both I don't know what to think about account selling to be honest! I guess that I have nothing against it. But trust should be reset to neutral during each account sale. Selling of trust is a big NO NO in my opinion since the trust is really the only way to have any confidence in members around here!
I recently talked with a guy who had an account with positive trust and was planning to sell it, and he told me that he didn't tell anyone simply because he knew you could make a lot more money selling with positive trust. Humans are naturally greedy and it's a lost cause hoping that they'll turn away extra money. There is little market for selling accounts with trust. Main reason being that almost all of the users are buying it for signature campaign. Secondly, it's easy to detect the change of ownership with address and posting styles. There is much more market for accounts with constructive post since many campaign now requires it. Bullshit detected, accounts with trust sell like hot bread, you may think there is no market because trusted accounts arent sold often I don't know what to think about account selling to be honest! I guess that I have nothing against it. But trust should be reset to neutral during each account sale. Selling of trust is a big NO NO in my opinion since the trust is really the only way to have any confidence in members around here!
ok, im on the quoting screen, based on your post, im sure you're wearing a paid signature
I have a plan guys, account selling shouold be documented, when an account is sold, it receives a neutral rating saying when it was sold and all positive trust gets removed
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November 28, 2015, 11:44:41 PM |
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I think my answer is yes. There's nothing bad to sell your account if you don't use it.
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November 28, 2015, 11:52:07 PM |
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I think my answer is yes. There's nothing bad to sell your account if you don't use it.
Well of course, for the seller there is nothing wrong, he wins money and for the buyer, it's not bad either but what about other people who have been here for a long time and they didn't buy their accounts, they had to post and earn their rank, isn't it unfair that someone can just buy a high level account even with trust when other people have been here for years and some of them without any trust ratings at all.
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November 29, 2015, 12:33:52 AM |
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I think it's a rather distasteful practice but it will always be with us. If sig campaigns are gone, buying rep will still count for something no matter what happens.
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November 29, 2015, 01:01:19 AM |
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I think it's a rather distasteful practice but it will always be with us. If sig campaigns are gone, buying rep will still count for something no matter what happens.
This is correct. There will always be a market for users who wish to be able to post more than once every 360 seconds. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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November 29, 2015, 05:17:20 AM |
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I think it's a rather distasteful practice but it will always be with us. If sig campaigns are gone, buying rep will still count for something no matter what happens.
If signature campaigns gone means more than 60% traffic to this forums also will reduce. Most people are active here because of signature campaign.
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November 29, 2015, 06:57:25 AM |
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I don't know what to think about account selling to be honest! I guess that I have nothing against it. But trust should be reset to neutral during each account sale. Selling of trust is a big NO NO in my opinion since the trust is really the only way to have any confidence in members around here!
I recently talked with a guy who had an account with positive trust and was planning to sell it, and he told me that he didn't tell anyone simply because he knew you could make a lot more money selling with positive trust. Humans are naturally greedy and it's a lost cause hoping that they'll turn away extra money. There is little market for selling accounts with trust. Main reason being that almost all of the users are buying it for signature campaign. Secondly, it's easy to detect the change of ownership with address and posting styles. There is much more market for accounts with constructive post since many campaign now requires it. Bullshit detected, accounts with trust sell like hot bread, you may think there is no market because trusted accounts arent sold often I'd say hot cakes but everyone has a different way of saying it. Anyway, even if they do, I see no reason why it's a huge threat. The forum members are much more clever right now. It isn't worth it to use it to scam. If they aren't sold often, they would be more expensive. Furthermore, most account didn't have much BTC risked which makes it difficult for scammers to make profit. I have a plan guys, account selling shouold be documented, when an account is sold, it receives a neutral rating saying when it was sold and all positive trust gets removed
Great plan! How are you going to implement it? Not many people are as honest as you.
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November 29, 2015, 10:55:07 AM |
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I think it's fine, as long as it's not morally wrong, like selling an account with an open loan, or selling a marked account. Doesn't that give the buyer some units of evil?
If it was really wrong, then Theymos would've banned traded accounts long ago.
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November 29, 2015, 11:00:55 AM |
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I think it's fine, as long as it's not morally wrong, like selling an account with an open loan, or selling a marked account. Doesn't that give the buyer some units of evil?
If it was really wrong, then Theymos would've banned traded accounts long ago.
Units of evil are only given when users gets banned or spam frequently. Scamming isn't moderated. It's important to note that if a negative trust is given to the account and the user knowingly buy it, it will not be removed. There's a reason why many choose to use escrow when dealing with accounts. There is no concrete way to ban trading accounts completely as it isn't possible to tell even with IP change.
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November 29, 2015, 11:39:40 AM |
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I think it's a rather distasteful practice but it will always be with us. If sig campaigns are gone, buying rep will still count for something no matter what happens.
If signature campaigns gone means more than 60% traffic to this forums also will reduce. Most people are active here because of signature campaign. Where do you get those numbers from? Signatures are fairly new and people was here before signatures, the peak of people online was in 2013 no signatures back then so deleting signatures will not affect the traffic of the forum at all, only spammers would leave, if you are here just because of signature campaigns means you are probably a spammer.
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November 29, 2015, 11:46:31 AM |
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I have always been against selling accounts on this forum. It not only leads to scam but farming accounts makes this forum looks dull with all spam posts due to signature campaigns. There have been many users who have been scammed because of this. However, I don't believe that the users who are selling their accounts deserve any negative trust or neutral trust but only I can request them to add a neutral trust to their accounts they are selling to make sure people are aware of the account sales.
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November 29, 2015, 12:19:56 PM |
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I voted as 'yes' because, i didn't found anything wrong with selling/buying account. I have always been against selling accounts on this forum. It not only leads to scam but farming accounts makes this forum looks dull with all spam posts due to signature campaigns. There have been many users who have been scammed because of this. However, I don't believe that the users who are selling their accounts deserve any negative trust or neutral trust but only I can request them to add a neutral trust to their accounts they are selling to make sure people are aware of the account sales.
If signature campaign is one of the problem, i want to say that this forum itself having an ads campaign. And this forum needs 10BTC for one month of hosting (?) and/so this forum having an unigue ads campaign (not the ads publishing provides by some advertising company like adsense, yahoo ads, etc.,) becuase lot of members are active here because of signature campaign.
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November 29, 2015, 12:20:51 PM |
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I think it's a rather distasteful practice but it will always be with us. If sig campaigns are gone, buying rep will still count for something no matter what happens.
If signature campaigns gone means more than 60% traffic to this forums also will reduce. Most people are active here because of signature campaign. Where do you get those numbers from? Signatures are fairly new and people was here before signatures, the peak of people online was in 2013 no signatures back then so deleting signatures will not affect the traffic of the forum at all, only spammers would leave, if you are here just because of signature campaigns means you are probably a spammer. Advising or blaming others is very easy job because it won't ask money. If you're pointing signature campaign, who ever joined are spammer means. I would say you're the first most spammer. First remove your signature and advice others. Do not post some useless posts to earn money for you.
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November 29, 2015, 01:56:09 PM |
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I think it's a rather distasteful practice but it will always be with us. If sig campaigns are gone, buying rep will still count for something no matter what happens.
If signature campaigns gone means more than 60% traffic to this forums also will reduce. Most people are active here because of signature campaign. Where do you get those numbers from? Signatures are fairly new and people was here before signatures, the peak of people online was in 2013 no signatures back then so deleting signatures will not affect the traffic of the forum at all, only spammers would leave, if you are here just because of signature campaigns means you are probably a spammer. Advising or blaming others is very easy job because it won't ask money. If you're pointing signature campaign, who ever joined are spammer means. I would say you're the first most spammer. First remove your signature and advice others. Do not post some useless posts to earn money for you. Your post was impossible to understand. The guy said the forum would lose traffic if signature campaigns are disabled and that's simply not true. This forum shouldn't be about signature campaigns in the first place, this forum is about bitcoin and people should be here because of bitcoin. You can join a signature campaign, nothing wrong with that but if you are here just because of the signature campaigns then something is wrong. Signature campaigns are the reason why btc accounts are worth anything.
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November 29, 2015, 02:20:22 PM |
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I voted as 'yes' because, i didn't found anything wrong with selling/buying account. I have always been against selling accounts on this forum. It not only leads to scam but farming accounts makes this forum looks dull with all spam posts due to signature campaigns. There have been many users who have been scammed because of this. However, I don't believe that the users who are selling their accounts deserve any negative trust or neutral trust but only I can request them to add a neutral trust to their accounts they are selling to make sure people are aware of the account sales.
If signature campaign is one of the problem, i want to say that this forum itself having an ads campaign. And this forum needs 10BTC for one month of hosting (?) and/so this forum having an unigue ads campaign (not the ads publishing provides by some advertising company like adsense, yahoo ads, etc.,) becuase lot of members are active here because of signature campaign. Signature campaign is not a problem but the accounts are mainly sold for this purpose and in order to sell their accounts, users start spamming the forum and farm accounts. That's why I dislike account sales.
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December 03, 2015, 06:11:22 AM |
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I think it's a rather distasteful practice but it will always be with us. If sig campaigns are gone, buying rep will still count for something no matter what happens.
If signature campaigns gone means more than 60% traffic to this forums also will reduce. Most people are active here because of signature campaign. Where do you get those numbers from? Signatures are fairly new and people was here before signatures, the peak of people online was in 2013 no signatures back then so deleting signatures will not affect the traffic of the forum at all, only spammers would leave, if you are here just because of signature campaigns means you are probably a spammer. Advising or blaming others is very easy job because it won't ask money. If you're pointing signature campaign, who ever joined are spammer means. I would say you're the first most spammer. First remove your signature and advice others. Do not post some useless posts to earn money for you. Your post was impossible to understand. The guy said the forum would lose traffic if signature campaigns are disabled and that's simply not true. This forum shouldn't be about signature campaigns in the first place, this forum is about bitcoin and people should be here because of bitcoin. You can join a signature campaign, nothing wrong with that but if you are here just because of the signature campaigns then something is wrong. Signature campaigns are the reason why btc accounts are worth anything. I really believe your explanation only if you remove you signature and still post on this forum for some time. Otherwise your just posting on this thread also to earn some money. Hope you will prove that what you said.
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