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November 28, 2015, 03:19:16 AM Last edit: November 28, 2015, 04:35:50 PM by notaek |
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Bitcoinblackfriday.info is also trying to promote all sorts of "confirmed" scummy cloud mining websites and other HYIP ponzis, one such example as shown below... (cross-posted from this thread) I was just surfing casually for some best deals regarding Black Friday on Bitcoinblackfriday.info and I found this promotion!! Initially I thought of checking their announcement thread here before thinking of investing there and fortunately this thread saved my day! His way of writing fully proves he's a scammer!
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jdh015232
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November 28, 2015, 03:25:57 AM |
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they take 100% diehards like me and ruin their love for crypto by taking away everything ive saved its hard enough to explain anything crypto to people in real life, and now their is no way i will want to talk about it or even be involved in it at all anymore. i am extremely sad at the moment
Don't let a scammer ruin things for you. I know this is difficult to deal with for now but you will be alright. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) For example many people lost everything because of Mt. Gox. Some committed suicide but luckily most survived. There are far more important things in life than ~6 bitcoin. most survived, but probably will never feel right about bitcoin again, because at one point, they possibly had tons of money, enough to retire on or whatever. and possibly later on, it could have been a STUPID amount of moneys(If BTC is to rise in price alot from where it is again.) why would they want to buy a bitcoin now, when they had 20,000 that dissapeared from MT GOX. I do think it is amazing, the community got together and figured this out really quickly, that this was an elaborate scam. that is awesome, and how it should be, im just the lone idiot whos stuck with that differant feeling about bitcoin now, that one where, if it were to go up alot again, just like every mt gox customer, makes you feel the opposite passion of what you did before for bitcoin. now its just annoying to even hear of...i would have been fine, and done my usual research, double checked the site address, btc address creation of the order, and other things before sending the transaction, like i always do, but i was in between busy times with family and holidays and in a hurry, so my mistake.
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November 28, 2015, 03:26:53 AM |
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I didn't follow their announcements etc. so I don't know much about them. But just by looking at 5 of their top 8 ads: deals.bitcoinblackfriday.info/offer/primedice-deposit-at-least-1-btc-and-receive-1-btc-for-free/ links to primedice.io instead of https://primedice.comdeals.bitcoinblackfriday.info/offer/trezor-the-hardware-bitcoin-wallet/ links to buy-trezor.com instead of http://buytrezor.comdeals.bitcoinblackfriday.info/offer/spondoolies-tech-sp50/ links to sqondoolies-tech.com instead of http://www.spondoolies-tech.comdeals.bitcoinblackfriday.info/offer/gyft-25-discount-for-all-gift-cards/ links to appgyft.com instead of https://app.gyft.comObvious scam is obvious. Owner at forums: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525055And promoted by ~50 ppl in his signature campaign, PM-ed them. edit: seems like they also have 1 ad on this forum... - but gone now. This CALL is great and it has also been taken into consideration by the admins .. and staffs... I can see in the top of bitcointalk's Forum.. News : Warning: bitcoinblackfriday。info is a scam. More infoSo this program wont be able to scam anymore as it is now publicly posted on the Header of this forum that it is a scammm!!!
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November 28, 2015, 03:27:59 AM |
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Was tempted but not tempted enough for their signature campaign and buying stuff so happy I did not buy anything from them. Even with a lot of attractive offers like other people in here promoting cloud mining services and other stuff that I did see gave alarm bells so stuck well away from it. I wonder if going to setup a cyber Monday site up for Monday coming going to be staying away from it also if it does arise.
@theymos I think you should look into preventing scams happening or being allowed to post stuff without first been authenticated and other places that promote business need verification first before being allowed to be shown. Too many scams happen on here and am more than prepared to step up to the task of approving and disallowing or even getting a team in place to crack down on scams and preventing future cases happen and to crack down on it, and to prevent.
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November 28, 2015, 03:37:04 AM |
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it is not theymos fault, he cannot control everything. my issue is i had not checked these boards in a month or 2, and never saw a warning about scams like this. i got a link from twitter from what i thought was a bitmain related account..most scams are obvious and the general btc userbase recognizes them before, i bet this forum made alot of smarter people realize that this upcoming special from this guy seemed too good to be true and let them avoid it. unfortunately, for me, i have not been paying enough attention lately and jumped the gun.
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November 28, 2015, 03:44:53 AM |
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I woke up and got two warnings in my pm ( thanks guys ) Anyway, i didn't expect for them to be a scam, their sig campaign looks pretty legit ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Guess we are not gonna get our 0.05 bonus ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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November 28, 2015, 03:45:19 AM |
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it is not theymos fault, he cannot control everything. my issue is i had not checked these boards in a month or 2, and never saw a warning about scams like this. i got a link from twitter from what i thought was a bitmain related account..most scams are obvious and the general btc userbase recognizes them before, i bet this forum made alot of smarter people realize that this upcoming special from this guy seemed too good to be true and let them avoid it. unfortunately, for me, i have not been paying enough attention lately and jumped the gun.
I am aware it is not his fault but he should look into the matter in more detail of how many have been going on and how to prevent it or make more stronger for the future. It is indeed not his fault that this has happened but would be far better if put things into place to prevent stuff like this happening and continue to happen and scammers get away with it all the time and then come back with another account and post more scams. If their was things in place to check for or even to carry out some checks before hand then a team in place to allow or disallowed sure would stop stuff like this from happening in future or stop a lot of scams from being posted.
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November 28, 2015, 03:47:57 AM |
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It seems like Firefox is already blocking appgyft.com so that is pretty good/fast: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMyKlo9W.png&t=665&c=7uGnSN1D9BX8fg) I hope the others will be blocked soon too. I reported some to https://www.google.com/safebrowsing/report_phish/ too (FF uses that too AFAIK.)
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November 28, 2015, 03:51:46 AM |
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here are the known addresses i could get while generating fake invoices on the fake website
18jXhWToqix3jybpCNGTB75gFQULuV6guX 16kLWoe8yab4dbTR3h26d9eJARBfueC3cY 14Jgcr7wWx2C9nmTW5jLSasVrgFvsHrvjt 18jP3xv6cEx3nvf3bdnVVm4tXHNzyAYyju 1Nx7m1q2DuPtA6ZtuhcDxBJa2CPfBEErDx 1HyVFLUewenfqkKkaMkQE2wuqSHkvw5AyE 1NbA3NtMtt39mQxSEr55Ai1VhHWehNukj5
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November 28, 2015, 03:53:52 AM Last edit: November 28, 2015, 04:13:14 AM by Lutpin |
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Just checked it, yes, Firefox uses googles list. That being said, obviously my google chrome also is blocking appgyft.com already. Cool. Chrome blocked it too. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ndnhc confirms. here are the known addresses i could get while generating fake invoices on the fake website
None of the addresses moved funds yet, but sadly some are holding funds (I'd asume those are the profits made from this). 1NbA3NtMtt39mQxSEr55Ai1VhHWehNukj5 has over 6 btc 18jXhWToqix3jybpCNGTB75gFQULuV6guX has near 3 BTC 16kLWoe8yab4dbTR3h26d9eJARBfueC3cY is the same. near 3 BTC 18jP3xv6cEx3nvf3bdnVVm4tXHNzyAYyju has near 3 BTC
Addresses to watch.
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November 28, 2015, 04:05:44 AM |
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I'm surprised that theymos issued warnings about this, I thought the forum doesn't moderate scams or does anything about them. Folks from Gyft reached out to me and I sent out a newsletter warning people not to use .info. So, The 'founder' of .info is 'Thomas Silva' No prior history in Bitcoin, released a couple press releases. Used some really shady shit to downvote almost all of my social media posts and upvote his own. Listed this as his phone number: +1 (424) 241-3613 Listed his first address on his press release as 3370 E Pershing Ave, Orlando, Florida, 32806 which was up for rent some time ago, you can get the property owner's info if you look for it, I didn't bother calling and verifying if a Thomas Silva lives there. The next address he put up was in his newsletters: Bloomspring Avenue 122 Seattle, Wa 98144 Which just doesn't exist. Whois is privacy protected, we're sending in a request to namecheap to take down the website. "Thomas" sent me an email on November 12th: "Hello Jon, My name is Thomas Silva and I'm the owner of bitcoinblackfriday.info. I have seen a hostile reaction from you in some of our posts so I would like to reach out to you and offer my apologies regarding the similarity between our two domains and to express my sincere regret that you are upset with us offering our expertise to help bitcoiners reach the best bitcoin black friday deals on November 27th. Me and my team have the utmost respect for you and your website, it has been of great help so far but please understand that we feel we can do a great job also and we do not want to compete with your website. We only want to help Bitcoin and advertise this big day for the greater good of the community and spread the word as best as possible. I hope you understand that we do not want to hold grudges and maybe we can work togheter to make Bitcoin Black Friday as successful as possible. Sincerely, Thomas Silva BitcoinBlackFriday.info contact@bitcoinblackfriday.info" I have the headers information if someone who's trusted in the community wants to take a look at it and parse out the relevant bits so I don't give out my IP. I'm mad that this happened, I knew he was shady since people who actually exist aren't that hard to find, but I just thought he was going to sell people's emails or some crap, never expected it to go so bad. Are you able to post all of the headers and just scrub out your ip address? Just replace all instances of your ip with an xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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November 28, 2015, 04:06:07 AM |
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1NbA3NtMtt39mQxSEr55Ai1VhHWehNukj5 has over 6 btc. 5.716 of which was my stupid ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) self 18jXhWToqix3jybpCNGTB75gFQULuV6guX has near 3 BTC 16kLWoe8yab4dbTR3h26d9eJARBfueC3cY is the same. near 3 BTC, both must be for 1 miner order 14Jgcr7wWx2C9nmTW5jLSasVrgFvsHrvjt has none 18jP3xv6cEx3nvf3bdnVVm4tXHNzyAYyju has near 3 BTC, another 1 miner order 1Nx7m1q2DuPtA6ZtuhcDxBJa2CPfBEErDx has none 1HyVFLUewenfqkKkaMkQE2wuqSHkvw5AyE has none so 12 btc total in the "known " addressess not very succesful because of the help of all of you guys, thank you very much. i am such an idiot ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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November 28, 2015, 04:07:04 AM |
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This is/was a nasty little scam no wasn't it. ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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saturn643
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November 28, 2015, 04:07:56 AM |
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1NbA3NtMtt39mQxSEr55Ai1VhHWehNukj5 has over 6 btc. 5.716 of which was my stupid ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) self 18jXhWToqix3jybpCNGTB75gFQULuV6guX has near 3 BTC 16kLWoe8yab4dbTR3h26d9eJARBfueC3cY is the same. near 3 BTC, both must be for 1 miner order 14Jgcr7wWx2C9nmTW5jLSasVrgFvsHrvjt has none 18jP3xv6cEx3nvf3bdnVVm4tXHNzyAYyju has near 3 BTC, another 1 miner order 1Nx7m1q2DuPtA6ZtuhcDxBJa2CPfBEErDx has none 1HyVFLUewenfqkKkaMkQE2wuqSHkvw5AyE has none so 12 btc total in the "known " addressess not very succesful because of the help of all of you guys, thank you very much. i am such an idiot ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) Sorry for your loss. How did you find these addresses? Were you just creating orders but not paying and these were the addresses that came up? Was this across all of the fake sites or just one of them?
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November 28, 2015, 04:11:49 AM |
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Nice work. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Cool. Chrome blocked it too. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Deceptive site ahead
Google Safe Browsing recently detected phishing on appgyft.com. Phishing sites pretend to be other websites to trick you. Edit: Looks like I am subscribed to .info emails too. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Found them in the spam folder lol.
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November 28, 2015, 04:12:16 AM |
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I'm surprised that theymos issued warnings about this, I thought the forum doesn't moderate scams or does anything about them. Folks from Gyft reached out to me and I sent out a newsletter warning people not to use .info. So, The 'founder' of .info is 'Thomas Silva' No prior history in Bitcoin, released a couple press releases. Used some really shady shit to downvote almost all of my social media posts and upvote his own. Listed this as his phone number: +1 (424) 241-3613 Listed his first address on his press release as 3370 E Pershing Ave, Orlando, Florida, 32806 which was up for rent some time ago, you can get the property owner's info if you look for it, I didn't bother calling and verifying if a Thomas Silva lives there. The next address he put up was in his newsletters: Bloomspring Avenue 122 Seattle, Wa 98144 Which just doesn't exist. Whois is privacy protected, we're sending in a request to namecheap to take down the website. "Thomas" sent me an email on November 12th: "Hello Jon, My name is Thomas Silva and I'm the owner of bitcoinblackfriday.info. I have seen a hostile reaction from you in some of our posts so I would like to reach out to you and offer my apologies regarding the similarity between our two domains and to express my sincere regret that you are upset with us offering our expertise to help bitcoiners reach the best bitcoin black friday deals on November 27th. Me and my team have the utmost respect for you and your website, it has been of great help so far but please understand that we feel we can do a great job also and we do not want to compete with your website. We only want to help Bitcoin and advertise this big day for the greater good of the community and spread the word as best as possible. I hope you understand that we do not want to hold grudges and maybe we can work togheter to make Bitcoin Black Friday as successful as possible. Sincerely, Thomas Silva BitcoinBlackFriday.info contact@bitcoinblackfriday.info" I have the headers information if someone who's trusted in the community wants to take a look at it and parse out the relevant bits so I don't give out my IP. I'm mad that this happened, I knew he was shady since people who actually exist aren't that hard to find, but I just thought he was going to sell people's emails or some crap, never expected it to go so bad. Are you able to post all of the headers and just scrub out your ip address? Just replace all instances of your ip with an xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Never done much work with headers so I honestly don't know which ones are related to my email. I can probably look into it tomorrow and post it.
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November 28, 2015, 04:14:27 AM |
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1NbA3NtMtt39mQxSEr55Ai1VhHWehNukj5 has over 6 btc. 5.716 of which was my stupid ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) self 18jXhWToqix3jybpCNGTB75gFQULuV6guX has near 3 BTC 16kLWoe8yab4dbTR3h26d9eJARBfueC3cY is the same. near 3 BTC, both must be for 1 miner order 14Jgcr7wWx2C9nmTW5jLSasVrgFvsHrvjt has none 18jP3xv6cEx3nvf3bdnVVm4tXHNzyAYyju has near 3 BTC, another 1 miner order 1Nx7m1q2DuPtA6ZtuhcDxBJa2CPfBEErDx has none 1HyVFLUewenfqkKkaMkQE2wuqSHkvw5AyE has none so 12 btc total in the "known " addressess not very succesful because of the help of all of you guys, thank you very much. i am such an idiot ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) Sorry for your loss. How did you find these addresses? Were you just creating orders but not paying and these were the addresses that came up? Was this across all of the fake sites or just one of them? yes that is exactly what i did. i did it for a good 20 minutes so those were the only ones that came up. i also screen capped them all just in case for evidence. if you create an invoice, you dont even have to fill out your name or anything and it still gives you an address(obvious sign of scam) but i was in such a hurry. i did not notice any of this until after. i know nobody really cares, but if you are feeling sympathetic for my stupidity(which you shouldnt be) here is my address, where you can see me send my 5 BTC into OBLIVION 1EMCsaEGYet55Eu7mFv9BMPHXjyMNx2Qp thank you for everybodys help
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November 28, 2015, 04:18:52 AM |
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Never done much work with headers so I honestly don't know which ones are related to my email. I can probably look into it tomorrow and post it.
The only ones related to your email are the ip for your server. It shouldn't have any sensitive information anyways so I think it would be safe to post the whole thing. Your ip address for the email server should already be public anyways. yes that is exactly what i did. i did it for a good 20 minutes so those were the only ones that came up. i also screen capped them all just in case for evidence. if you create an invoice, you dont even have to fill out your name or anything and it still gives you an address(obvious sign of scam) but i was in such a hurry. i did not notice any of this until after. i know nobody really cares, but if you are feeling sympathetic for my stupidity(which you shouldnt be) here is my address, where you can see me send my 5 BTC into OBLIVION 1EMCsaEGYet55Eu7mFv9BMPHXjyMNx2Qp thank you for everybodys help I will also take a look and look for the other sites.
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November 28, 2015, 04:20:48 AM |
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i am hoping a cpl of the other ppl who sent the 3 BTC can come and join the conversation. im guessing they do not realize yet it is a scam. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif)
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