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November 29, 2015, 03:18:07 PM |
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I think it's true because illegal stuff can buy only with BTC.
Yes, exactly. I wonder if we ban BTC completely there will be no more illegal weapons, drugs, and black markets and terrorism will be gone. Oh, wait. It won't be gone, because evil doers will always find a way! That is why it is completely wrong to blame: BTC, FIAT or other currencies for it. Lets talk for a moment: how terrorists are financed exactly? Money and BTC are magically appearing in their wallets? No. Someone is giving them money. And without fixing that problem first, there won't be end of a terror, ever. My neighbors little kid terrorizes my cat when it ends up in his back yard. There's only one way to end terrorism worldwide: kill everyone on the planet.
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November 29, 2015, 03:47:09 PM |
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No, it's not true. 2 years ago there is an hacker stealing BTC wallet and transfer all BTC on the hacked to his wallet. After a week, police caught him. Finally BTC is anonymous.
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November 29, 2015, 04:39:22 PM |
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No, it's not true. 2 years ago there is an hacker stealing BTC wallet and transfer all BTC on the hacked to his wallet. After a week, police caught him. Finally BTC is anonymous.
What did you mean? Probably this hacker make some mistake… try to catch block 0 owner
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November 29, 2015, 09:20:34 PM |
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This is just fud. C'mon why does everytime that something bad happens it has to do with bitcoin? Even if it was bought through the darkweb it doesn't mean that it was bought with bitcoin. Besides, the buyer would need to meet with the seller to receive the guns so probably the was done when they meet, therefore it would be more certain that it would be paid in cash.
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November 29, 2015, 09:26:56 PM |
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I'll guess that 50% or more of 'dark web' arms and drug dealers are law enforcement or compromised by them. You'd buy terrorist arms from the usual fanatics in the Balkans, not some random asshole at the other end of Tor.
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November 29, 2015, 10:31:37 PM |
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I saw a video with a skilled Pakistani arms vendor who would make a gun or rifle to order while you wait like fast-food. Any gun you wanted, he would forge all the parts from scratch in sand pit. A $2k gun made from scrap wood and rusty bits of metal in minuets.
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November 29, 2015, 11:20:47 PM |
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Before 2009 there wasn't any gun selling. Such a shame Bitcoin! You're a bad boy, really really bad boy.
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November 30, 2015, 05:10:29 AM |
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I think it's true because illegal stuff can buy only with BTC.
Yes, exactly. I wonder if we ban BTC completely there will be no more illegal weapons, drugs, and black markets and terrorism will be gone. Oh, wait. It won't be gone, because evil doers will always find a way! That is why it is completely wrong to blame: BTC, FIAT or other currencies for it. Lets talk for a moment: how terrorists are financed exactly? Money and BTC are magically appearing in their wallets? No. Someone is giving them money. And without fixing that problem first, there won't be end of a terror, ever. AH HA ! ..look at the bold part i quoted ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I was wondering why most of you here we're being so defensive about this topic. Did i miss the part where ANYONE said Bitcoin causes terrorism ? Try reading the topic title and the comments etc carefully people. Nothing EVER changes. Some type of negative story makes it's rounds about Bitcoin. And we get the brigade storming in with anti-FUD Way i see it yeah they probably did buy guns with Bitcoin BUT ! so what.. it's a currency ..those things are going to happen. who cares, move on it's not a big deal. I would be more inclined to take BTC more seriously as a True Currency if it's adopted by illegal markets.
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November 30, 2015, 05:28:23 AM Last edit: November 30, 2015, 05:45:53 AM by Kakmakr |
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Every time the Dark Web is mentioned, people immediately accept that Bitcoin was associated with it, they would not have used stolen credit cards or hacked PayPal accounts...
No No No.... it has to be Bitcoin. So if these guys, went there and they did odd jobs for cash and they used that cash to buy knifes and they stabbed people to death... would
they have made accusations against cash or the store where it was bought? Guess not... It's just that Bitcoin is special.
No gun illegal gun merchant would accept stolen credit cards or hacked Paypal accounts. And they've already arrested the illegal gun merchant. And terrorists would most likely not use a regular gun shot. Because, you know, they're terrorists. You have any proof of that? In my country, you can buy a gun on the streets without a credit card or PayPal and nobody will ask any questions. How would a gun shop owner know it is a stolen credit card, if it is accompanied with a fake ID document? All these things can be bought online. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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November 30, 2015, 07:01:22 AM |
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Bitcoin is a digital (crypto) currency and it can be used for everything, what if they bought them usingi dollar? should dollar be banned? of course not it is only a currency and people should not think like bitcoin is dangerous.
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911, 2001.
Halloween, 2008.
Friday the 13th, 2015.
September October November
If the pattern continues, the next major event will be in December, 2022.
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November 30, 2015, 10:09:42 AM |
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911, 2001.
Halloween, 2008.
Friday the 13th, 2015.
September October November
If the pattern continues, the next major event will be in December, 2022.
It's possible but I doubt terrorists will wait that long to strike a western country again. They're already destroying the middle east. However, I don't think there's any solid prove that the guns were bought with bitcoins. I believe they used blackmarket to get their weapons.
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November 30, 2015, 02:54:15 PM |
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It's simply propaganda to try to keep people away from Bitcoin... pay attention to mainstream media,you are going to see more and more stuff coming being negative to Bitcoin in this fashion. Of course they will never address the fact goverment distributed fiat money is an absolutely scam and that it is the real ponzi and not Bitcoin. You should use this to keep taking advantage of the early adopter phase which will be extended to at least 2 more years.
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November 30, 2015, 03:11:27 PM |
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Well perhaps they are buying it with Bitcoin. And perhaps they bought litecoin first, then dogecoin, then Bitcoin to keep off further traces.
Perhaps they used an apple computer to do the buying too. My point is, lots and lots of means can be used to finally get the guns. Does that say something about those means being evil or good? I think not. But press keeps pushing it like that it seems.
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November 30, 2015, 03:14:10 PM |
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It's simply propaganda to try to keep people away from Bitcoin... pay attention to mainstream media,you are going to see more and more stuff coming being negative to Bitcoin in this fashion. Of course they will never address the fact goverment distributed fiat money is an absolutely scam and that it is the real ponzi and not Bitcoin. You should use this to keep taking advantage of the early adopter phase which will be extended to at least 2 more years.
But why would anyone bother to do that? Do you see any propaganda campaigns against any other payment systems like Authorize.Net, PayPal, Google Checkout, Amazon Payments, Dwolla, Stripe, Braintree, Samurai, WePay, 2Checkout, Applepay, Square or any other? What makes Bitcoin so hated and if people feel that negatively about it how could it ever go mainstream?
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December 01, 2015, 03:50:26 AM |
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It's simply propaganda to try to keep people away from Bitcoin... pay attention to mainstream media,you are going to see more and more stuff coming being negative to Bitcoin in this fashion. Of course they will never address the fact goverment distributed fiat money is an absolutely scam and that it is the real ponzi and not Bitcoin. You should use this to keep taking advantage of the early adopter phase which will be extended to at least 2 more years.
But why would anyone bother to do that? Do you see any propaganda campaigns against any other payment systems like Authorize.Net, PayPal, Google Checkout, Amazon Payments, Dwolla, Stripe, Braintree, Samurai, WePay, 2Checkout, Applepay, Square or any other? What makes Bitcoin so hated and if people feel that negatively about it how could it ever go mainstream? Silk road rep is legendary so it makes sense people draw assumptions.. Viewing the outside world honestly is important. I wouldn't be thinking Propaganda because the public think Bitcoin is for buying drugs and guns.. long before Paris. Do i think the guy in the picture below used Bitcoin ? probably not but i bet it does happen sometimes. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.tinypic.com%2F2rqzhgo.jpg&t=665&c=dUqMbVgLo8qXkQ)
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It's simply propaganda to try to keep people away from Bitcoin... pay attention to mainstream media,you are going to see more and more stuff coming being negative to Bitcoin in this fashion. Of course they will never address the fact goverment distributed fiat money is an absolutely scam and that it is the real ponzi and not Bitcoin. You should use this to keep taking advantage of the early adopter phase which will be extended to at least 2 more years.
But why would anyone bother to do that? Do you see any propaganda campaigns against any other payment systems like Authorize.Net, PayPal, Google Checkout, Amazon Payments, Dwolla, Stripe, Braintree, Samurai, WePay, 2Checkout, Applepay, Square or any other? What makes Bitcoin so hated and if people feel that negatively about it how could it ever go mainstream? Silk road rep is legendary so it makes sense people draw assumptions.. Viewing the outside world honestly is important. I wouldn't be thinking Propaganda because the public think Bitcoin is for buying drugs and guns.. long before Paris. Do i think the guy in the picture below used Bitcoin ? probably not but i bet it does happen sometimes. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.tinypic.com%2F2rqzhgo.jpg&t=665&c=dUqMbVgLo8qXkQ) That image is so nasty looking I couldn't even read what you said. lol
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December 01, 2015, 07:14:56 PM Last edit: December 28, 2015, 09:40:46 PM by jertsy |
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Every time the Dark Web is mentioned, people immediately accept that Bitcoin was associated with it, they would not have used stolen credit cards or hacked PayPal accounts...
No No No.... it has to be Bitcoin. So if these guys, went there and they did odd jobs for cash and they used that cash to buy knifes and they stabbed people to death... would
they have made accusations against cash or the store where it was bought? Guess not... It's just that Bitcoin is special.
No gun illegal gun merchant would accept stolen credit cards or hacked Paypal accounts. And they've already arrested the illegal gun merchant. And terrorists would most likely not use a regular gun shot. Because, you know, they're terrorists. You have any proof of that? In my country, you can buy a gun on the streets without a credit card or PayPal and nobody will ask any questions. How would a gun shop owner know it is a stolen credit card, if it is accompanied with a fake ID document? All these things can be bought online. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Suppose someone bought a gun with a stolen credit card before the credit card owner realized it had been stolen. How could a gun shop refuse that stolen credit card before it had been reported stolen? The shop could do a check on the card to ascertain if it's reported stolen, but if the check came up clean how could the shop know it's stolen? If it was accompanied with fake ID the shop would sell without a shadow of a doubt. Try buying a gun with Bitcoin in that shop and you would ge refused. Freshly stolen credit cards would be useful for buying uns from brick and mortar shops, not Bitcoin.
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