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Every time the Dark Web is mentioned, people immediately accept that Bitcoin was associated with it, they would not have used stolen credit cards or hacked PayPal accounts...
No No No.... it has to be Bitcoin. So if these guys, went there and they did odd jobs for cash and they used that cash to buy knifes and they stabbed people to death... would
they have made accusations against cash or the store where it was bought? Guess not... It's just that Bitcoin is special.
No gun illegal gun merchant would accept stolen credit cards or hacked Paypal accounts. And they've already arrested the illegal gun merchant. And terrorists would most likely not use a regular gun shot. Because, you know, they're terrorists. You have any proof of that? In my country, you can buy a gun on the streets without a credit card or PayPal and nobody will ask any questions. How would a gun shop owner know it is a stolen credit card, if it is accompanied with a fake ID document? All these things can be bought online.  Suppose someone brought a gun with a stolen credit card before the credit card owner realized it had been stolen. How could a gun shop refuse that stolen credit card before it had been reported stolen? The shop could do a check on the card to ascertain if it's reported stolen, but if the check came up clean how could the shop know it's stolen? If it was accompanied with fake ID the shop would sell without a shadow of a doubt. Try buying a gun with Bitcoin in that shop and you would ge refused. Freshly stolen credit cards would be useful for buying uns from brick and mortar shops, not Bitcoin. From the naivety of this comment, I would guess you haven't ever gone through the process of purchasing a weapon have you ? If you are going to illegally purchase a weapon, why would you go to a Store (with cameras, paperwork & honest, trained, licensed sales people) to do it ? No store is going to risk their future over 1 sale. They would rather send a single potential sale out the door rather than risk it. |
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TheGr33k
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December 06, 2015, 05:04:39 AM |
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Oh yeah. I forgot we were considered as "The dark side of transaction". Bitcoin could have also been easily used to prevent the terrorist attacks, but my explanation to why is a little complicated.
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December 06, 2015, 07:28:46 AM |
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i think this is one of many way to make people hate or be wary with bitcoin,some people may not respect or dont like bitcoin,and they use some way to make bitcoin have bad image. but i dont think its will succed,some people can't ignore the ease of bitcoin,and also the future payment. |
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December 06, 2015, 08:38:05 AM |
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So what? What about all the weapons that they are using in Syria? Or the Russian rockets that shot down a plan abovo Hungary?
Those were bought with fiat..
That is the right argument. Most weapons are bought with fiat. Most of them are supplied by governments. |
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December 06, 2015, 08:42:18 AM |
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Oh yeah. I forgot we were considered as "The dark side of transaction". Bitcoin could have also been easily used to prevent the terrorist attacks, but my explanation to why is a little complicated.
How so, then? If bitcoin could have helped, in what way? I have never seen such a statement like this before, because all I see were bitcoin being tagged as "the bad guys' money." It's been like that for ages, since bitcoin first saw its purpose on the SR. |
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December 06, 2015, 02:05:44 PM |
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If they were bought from Germany isnt the real question how did they get the guns from Germany to Paris, thats the real issue.
Uhm,i live in Europe. You can travel from germany to France WITHOUT showing your ID on the borders, because they are OPEN! You can carry anything you want in a car or truck in Europe. Gus, terrorists, drugs, ... |
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December 06, 2015, 02:15:18 PM |
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If they were bought from Germany isnt the real question how did they get the guns from Germany to Paris, thats the real issue.
Uhm,i live in Europe. You can travel from germany to France WITHOUT showing your ID on the borders, because they are OPEN! You can carry anything you want in a car or truck in Europe. Gus, terrorists, drugs, ... Open borders, are one of the issues that is being put on rather big spotlight, Because we have a flood of immigrants coming from all sides. And forcefully splitting them equally among all nations will not work if they decide to travel cross Europe to the country with biggest benefits. Also terrorists and whatnot. Didn't a car full of guns get busted just a day before the attacks? |
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December 06, 2015, 02:59:27 PM |
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I don't think this can actually be proven. It actually shouldn't matter if they are using bitcoin as their currency.
If they are using bitcoin, they are probably using the dollar and euro currency more often, that doesn't have any effect on those currenies.
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December 06, 2015, 03:17:47 PM |
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I have been exploring the dark web recently (this was actually how I came across Bitcoins in particular). From what I have seen without even trying to find it, you could easily buy guns, drugs and many other stuff over there.
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December 06, 2015, 03:17:55 PM |
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Oh yeah. I forgot we were considered as "The dark side of transaction". Bitcoin could have also been easily used to prevent the terrorist attacks, but my explanation to why is a little complicated.
How could bitcoin prevent these terrorist attacks? I don't think there's anyway someone outside of that organization would've known that they planned this. Unless there were threats of course. |
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December 06, 2015, 03:30:11 PM |
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I have been exploring the dark web recently (this was actually how I came across Bitcoins in particular). From what I have seen without even trying to find it, you could easily buy guns, drugs and many other stuff over there.
Ok, you can buy such stuff with bitcoin it doesn't mean bitcoin is illegal, before bitcoin was release there was not terrorist,drug dealers, or any illegal activity ? bitcoin is not reason for this, people always find ways. so there is nothing wrong with bitcoin but with people,we can't blame bitcoin for this.it depends on user how they use it, there are many people using it for innovation and legal use. |
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December 06, 2015, 03:44:02 PM |
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I have been exploring the dark web recently (this was actually how I came across Bitcoins in particular). From what I have seen without even trying to find it, you could easily buy guns, drugs and many other stuff over there.
ok but those that earn bitcoin by selling illegal stuff must dump at some point, and it's there that they risk to get caught actually there is a way to connect or at least limit the possibility of a buy order of something to a movements of coins, you need to know the exact amount that was used |
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December 06, 2015, 07:09:43 PM |
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I have been exploring the dark web recently (this was actually how I came across Bitcoins in particular). From what I have seen without even trying to find it, you could easily buy guns, drugs and many other stuff over there.
ok but those that earn bitcoin by selling illegal stuff must dump at some point, and it's there that they risk to get caught actually there is a way to connect or at least limit the possibility of a buy order of something to a movements of coins, you need to know the exact amount that was used No, not necessarily even that. If you know whom the suspect is, then just track the devices that person uses (with a warrant of course). Every device has an IP Address, no matter where it is connecting from (and very often it is not illegal to 'listen' to the data floating through the air on a wireless signal). You would see one of those devices make a transaction to the Public Ledger (ala "man in the middle" attack). If the suspect is then found to have a illegal *Weapon/Widgit/Whatever* ... Bingo ! Illegal Transaction confirmed, as well as BOTH wallets to the transaction. Follow the money to the 'exchange for cash' point, and the dealer is then also busted. THAT is why no intelligent Arms Dealer would use Bitcoins as a currency. |
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December 06, 2015, 07:21:37 PM |
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I have been exploring the dark web recently (this was actually how I came across Bitcoins in particular). From what I have seen without even trying to find it, you could easily buy guns, drugs and many other stuff over there.
ok but those that earn bitcoin by selling illegal stuff must dump at some point, and it's there that they risk to get caught actually there is a way to connect or at least limit the possibility of a buy order of something to a movements of coins, you need to know the exact amount that was used No, not necessarily even that. If you know whom the suspect is, then just track the devices that person uses (with a warrant of course). Every device has an IP Address, no matter where it is connecting from (and very often it is not illegal to 'listen' to the data floating through the air on a wireless signal). You would see one of those devices make a transaction to the Public Ledger (ala "man in the middle" attack). If the suspect is then found to have a illegal *Weapon/Widgit/Whatever* ... Bingo ! Illegal Transaction confirmed, as well as BOTH wallets to the transaction. Follow the money to the 'exchange for cash' point, and the dealer is then also busted. THAT is why no intelligent Arms Dealer would use Bitcoins as a currency. Monero and other coins claim to be untraceable.. and YOU ALL KNOW IT ! why are you all hiding from that point dodging it here ? And ignore TheGr33k his/her fanboyism and excessive positivity is overly jubilant LOL bitcoin prevents Terrorist Attacks News @11 ROFL And that guy said earlier.. SR was the first major use for Bitcoin.. exchange trading does not count. Usage as a trade commodity and usage as a currency are two separate things. So since that is reality then.. uhh what is the debate here ? |
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December 06, 2015, 08:38:00 PM |
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Who the fuck cares with what type of money they bought them guns? This is an invalid argument, and the mainstream media is cocked up in the head, as usual. The darkweb aspect of all this is intriguing, but the accusation that they used bitcoin to buy is not.
It would be funny if they had used buttsexcoin.
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Backside walkaround has lost access to their account as they used someone else's email address to sign up, and the owner of the email address got tired of random email notifications from this site after a few months and reset the password.
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Xubu
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December 06, 2015, 09:00:29 PM |
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I cannot believe that organisations as ISIS (Islamic State) buy their weapons on marketplaces at the darknet. They only rely on trusted sources within the organisation.
Its easy to blame BTC here because it has already a negative reputation.
I don't believe it!
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December 06, 2015, 10:07:29 PM |
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If you blame Bitcoin ... then you must also blame the US $. Mexican Drug Lord home after being raided https://imgur.com/a/y62XaThats right, thats BILLIONS of US $'s, not Millions. |
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December 07, 2015, 12:30:00 PM |
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If you blame Bitcoin ... then you must also blame the US $. Mexican Drug Lord home after being raided https://imgur.com/a/y62XaThats right, thats BILLIONS of US $'s, not Millions. 22 Billion USD in cash stored in a closet LOL. |
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December 07, 2015, 12:44:49 PM |
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If you blame Bitcoin ... then you must also blame the US $. Mexican Drug Lord home after being raided https://imgur.com/a/y62XaThats right, thats BILLIONS of US $'s, not Millions. 22 Billion USD in cash stored in a closet LOL. This humble man had enough to buy in cash all Bitcoins in circulation plus every other shitcoin ever created and still have plenty of cash left for basic life necessities such as gold plated AKs and lion pets. You don't find trezors or paper wallets at drug lords' homes after a raid, just good old USD cash |
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January 07, 2016, 04:31:48 PM |
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If you blame Bitcoin ... then you must also blame the US $. Mexican Drug Lord home after being raided https://imgur.com/a/y62XaThats right, thats BILLIONS of US $'s, not Millions. 22 Billion USD in cash stored in a closet LOL. Does the case prove US dollar is the most used drug money. $22 billion is a lot. He can buy most of the bitcoins in the world. |
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