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November 29, 2015, 06:24:37 AM
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Trump Calls For Amnesty

Trump’s supporters loved his promise this week to create a “deportation force” to remove all 11 million illegal immigrants living in America, and his repeated declaration that everyone here illegally will “have to go.”

But his supporters tend to overlook is his other promise — repeated in Tuesday’s Fox Business debate — that under his immigration plan “they will come back.”

That’s right. Under Trump’s immigration plan almost all of 11 million illegal aliens (save for a small minority with criminal records) will get to return and get permanent legal status to stay here in America.

Trump supports amnesty.

On the Kelly File Thursday, Trump’s son Eric expressed frustration that the media overlooks this:

"The point isn’t just deporting them, it’s deporting them and letting them back in legally. He’s been so clear about that and I know the liberal media wants to misconstrue it, but its deporting them and letting them back legally."

Eric Trump is right. His father has been crystal clear that he wants all the illegals to return and live in America.

Listen closely to what Trump is actually proposing. In an interview with CNN’s Dana Bash earlier this year, Trump explained his plan this way:

"I would get people out and then have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal…. A lot of these people are helping us … and sometimes it’s jobs a citizen of the United States doesn’t want to do. I want to move ’em out, and we’re going to move ’em back in and let them be legal."

This is a policy called “touchback” and it was first proposed in 2007 by moderate Republican Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (TX). She offered a “touchback” amendment on the Senate floor that would have required illegal immigrants to return to their home countries to apply for a special “Z visa” that would allow them to reenter the United States in an expedited fashion and work here indefinitely.


Her amendment lost by a relatively close margin, 53-45. It was supported by most Republicans and even got five Democratic votes — Sens. Claire McCaskill, Max Baucus, Jon Tester, Byron Dorgan and John Rockefeller all voted for it.

...https://www.aei.org/publication/message-to-the-gop-trump-supports-amnesty/
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November 29, 2015, 08:21:49 PM
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Isnt that what obama is already doing - just without the extra cost of sending them back first?

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November 29, 2015, 08:40:28 PM
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Do you know why immigration is a problem? It's because you have this conglomerate mishap that occurs in corporate boardrooms regularly; a place where the owners of this country decide on future goals for their businesses; in fact, they talk about donating, sponsoring, lobbying, etc. for the candidate they feel is more suitable for their interest. The political system is a hoax, a big fallacy. The corporate industry sends lobbyist to Washington regularly to buy politicians; they sponsor these candidates running for office, so when they're elected; they have to pay off their debt. The reason Donald is highly liked by many, is because he's not being bought by special interest groups, which in return, he will owe nothing to nobody, but the people who elected him. Unfortunately, it doesn't matter who's elected into public office, because even though the elected official represents you; they still have to show their allegiance to the State.
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November 29, 2015, 09:30:46 PM
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no he isn't, he says things like this to make the spics who can vote think he doesn't hate them, he is for keeping america a white majority country

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November 30, 2015, 02:50:35 AM
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no he isn't, he says things like this to make the spics who can vote think he doesn't hate them, he is for keeping america a white majority country

Even if there is zero immigration from Mexico, the US will lose its white majority in less than two decades time. Already less than half of all the children born in the United States are white. Once the baby boomers die of old age, the white dominance will end in the US. And I am afraid that as far as the economy is concerned, it is going to be bad news. Remember what happened to Detroit when the whites lost their majority.
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November 30, 2015, 09:20:04 AM
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Even if there is zero immigration from Mexico, the US will lose its white majority in less than two decades time. Already less than half of all the children born in the United States are white. Once the baby boomers die of old age, the white dominance will end in the US. And I am afraid that as far as the economy is concerned, it is going to be bad news. Remember what happened to Detroit when the whites lost their majority.
get rid of the 11 million (probably double that) illegals and some of their citizen family members will leave with them

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November 30, 2015, 01:02:52 PM
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Trump Calls For Amnesty

Trump’s supporters loved his promise this week to create a “deportation force” to remove all 11 million illegal immigrants living in America, and his repeated declaration that everyone here illegally will “have to go.”

But his supporters tend to overlook is his other promise — repeated in Tuesday’s Fox Business debate — that under his immigration plan “they will come back.”

That’s right. Under Trump’s immigration plan almost all of 11 million illegal aliens (save for a small minority with criminal records) will get to return and get permanent legal status to stay here in America.

Trump supports amnesty.

On the Kelly File Thursday, Trump’s son Eric expressed frustration that the media overlooks this:

"The point isn’t just deporting them, it’s deporting them and letting them back in legally. He’s been so clear about that and I know the liberal media wants to misconstrue it, but its deporting them and letting them back legally."

Eric Trump is right. His father has been crystal clear that he wants all the illegals to return and live in America.

Listen closely to what Trump is actually proposing. In an interview with CNN’s Dana Bash earlier this year, Trump explained his plan this way:

"I would get people out and then have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal…. A lot of these people are helping us … and sometimes it’s jobs a citizen of the United States doesn’t want to do. I want to move ’em out, and we’re going to move ’em back in and let them be legal."

This is a policy called “touchback” and it was first proposed in 2007 by moderate Republican Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (TX). She offered a “touchback” amendment on the Senate floor that would have required illegal immigrants to return to their home countries to apply for a special “Z visa” that would allow them to reenter the United States in an expedited fashion and work here indefinitely.


Her amendment lost by a relatively close margin, 53-45. It was supported by most Republicans and even got five Democratic votes — Sens. Claire McCaskill, Max Baucus, Jon Tester, Byron Dorgan and John Rockefeller all voted for it.

...https://www.aei.org/publication/message-to-the-gop-trump-supports-amnesty/

As the word is used in US politics, "amnesty" means a special path, or an expedited to citizenship.  I don't see that the process constitutes amnesty.  Providing a new kind of work visa without any provision for citizenship except the processes already existing is definitely not amnesty.
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November 30, 2015, 01:29:47 PM
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get rid of the 11 million (probably double that) illegals and some of their citizen family members will leave with them

It is too late for any of this. There are some 55 million legal Hispanics residing in the United States, and their birth rate remains much higher than that of the non-Hispanic population. All the populous US states (Texas, California, NY, NJ.etc) will become majority non-white in the next two or three decades time (if they are not already so).
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