If anyone is desperate frys has 5830s@$129 (after $50 rebate)
don't bother asking about the 5850s they have "exhausted all available fulfillment resources"
I was looking yesterday and they had 5850's and 5830's listed for the same price of $179.99. Only difference was $50 rebate for the 5830 and $40 rebate for the 5850.