hashflare.io best mining pool setting

[merrlis]

Maintenance fee: 0.0035 $ / 10 GH/s / 24h"

This is not an unfair price.  In November when BTC was 7k a coin it was the same.  It just takes longer to make your money back.  And if  you do not think BTC will continue to grow why would  buy in at all.   For me it was simple math.  I bought 10 th's  before the price increase.  150/th vs 220/th now.  at 15k per coin you were looking at about 2 months to Break Even if price and difficulty stayed the same.  To me I had a better chance of that vs BTC doubling again in 2 months. 

this is all just gambling.  BTC could be back to 1k if someone hacks one of the main sites and steals a bunch of BTC.  Just don't put anything in this that you are not willing to loose. 

Good Luck and lets all hope BTC keeps moving up. 

[ShadowBJ21]

I bought 10 th's  before the price increase.  150/th vs 220/th now.  at 15k per coin you were looking at about 2 months to Break Even if price and difficulty stayed the same.  To me I had a better chance of that vs BTC doubling again in 2 months. 

With the current BTC price ROI is now closer to 4 months than 2 but you still make money. Beside that absolutely agree with what you said.

[sumolpunk]

Saw an interesting post on HF's facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/HashFlare/posts/1972295183040794) where someone was asking them to explain why the payout per th/s seems to be based on a smaller block reward than what the pools are actually receiving (12.5 BTC vs 17.5 BTC = 30% less)...they have yet to answer the question.

[JanpriX]

Saw an interesting post on HF's facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/HashFlare/posts/1972295183040794) where someone was asking them to explain why the payout per th/s seems to be based on a smaller block reward than what the pools are actually receiving (12.5 BTC vs 17.5 BTC = 30% less)...they have yet to answer the question.

The post has been made last last Dec 23 and Hashflare never gave a response to it. The question is good and should be answered by their team to clarify things up. Hopefully, they are just in vacation (they are very silent after their Dec. 22 announcement) and should get some answers from them in the coming days. If the analysis of the FB post is true, we are missing out huge payouts from them and we should be making more BTC than we are getting right now. 

[cryptoshine]

40% - Antpool
40% - Slush
20% - F2pool

2017.12.24: 0.00012594 - (19,8% fee)
2017.12.25: 0.00012340 - (22,9% fee)
2017.12.26: 0.00012318 - (20,1% fee)
2017.12.27: 0.00012741 - (16,8% fee)
2017.12.28: 0.00013050 - (17,1% fee)

propably i will switch to 100% ant...

[Doug E. Dee]

12/27/17 0.00013058 BTC Revenue per 1 TH 50/50 F2/AP

[Spiffer]

Minergate.com is a better choise since their cloud mining price is lower and the same go for their fees.

Hashflare pays you according to how much you have bought of the total hashrate in their system. I guess this means that you can't hit a good block and keep it to yourself.

"Next, all mined cryptocurrency is distributed among all customers of HashFlare depending on their share of hashrate in the whole system."

[sumolpunk]

2017.12.14: 0.00015274 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.15: 0.00016215 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.16: 0.00015657 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.17: 0.00014935 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.18: 0.00015026 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.19: 0.00014398 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.20: 0.00012560 - 34% Antpool / 33% F2Pool / 33% Slush
2017.12.21: 0.00013179 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.22: 0.00013496 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.23: 0.00012280 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.24: 0.00012809 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.25: 0.00012465 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.26: 0.00012443 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.27: 0.00012870 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.28: 0.00013183 - 100% Antpool

[SaltyDog]

.68 TH/s   ( BW / SL / BC )


2017.12.23 .00008161 BW 33% / SL 34% / BC %33
2017.12.24 .00008512 BW 33% / SL 34% / BC %33
2017.12.25 .00008284 BW 33% / SL 34% / BC %33
2017.12.26 .00008270 BW 33% / SL 34% / BC %33
2017.12.27 .00008554 BW 33% / SL 34% / BC %33
2017.12.28 .00008761 BW 33% / SL 34% / BC %33

This is after +-19% fee

[SaltyDog]

Minergate.com is a better choise since their cloud mining price is lower and the same go for their fees.

Hashflare pays you according to how much you have bought of the total hashrate in their system. I guess this means that you can't hit a good block and keep it to yourself.

"Next, all mined cryptocurrency is distributed among all customers of HashFlare depending on their share of hashrate in the whole system."

Minergate is a little cheaper and fees look much, much lower but I haven't seen what people are getting back on returns.

I assume there is a finite amount of Hash Rate at Hashflare, so buying a bigger contract I would hope I would receive a lager percentage from the pool.

And hence your mining in a pool you have to share good blocks..

[sumolpunk]

.68 TH/s   ( BW / SL / BC )


2017.12.23 .00008161 BW 33% / SL 34% / BC %33
2017.12.24 .00008512 BW 33% / SL 34% / BC %33
2017.12.25 .00008284 BW 33% / SL 34% / BC %33
2017.12.26 .00008270 BW 33% / SL 34% / BC %33
2017.12.27 .00008554 BW 33% / SL 34% / BC %33
2017.12.28 .00008761 BW 33% / SL 34% / BC %33

This is after +-19% fee

Just an FYI, these numbers look like what you are actually being paid out.  We are posting the numbers from when you hover the blue bars in the "Revenue per 1 TH/s" section of the dashboard.  The consensus is that we should be able to compare our results amongst each other here and the results should be relatively the same, especially if same pool(s), keeping the mining service honest so-to-speak.

[sumolpunk]

Minergate.com is a better choise since their cloud mining price is lower and the same go for their fees.

Hashflare pays you according to how much you have bought of the total hashrate in their system. I guess this means that you can't hit a good block and keep it to yourself.

"Next, all mined cryptocurrency is distributed among all customers of HashFlare depending on their share of hashrate in the whole system."

Minergate is a little cheaper and fees look much, much lower but I haven't seen what people are getting back on returns.

I assume there is a finite amount of Hash Rate at Hashflare, so buying a bigger contract I would hope I would receive a lager percentage from the pool.

And hence your mining in a pool you have to share good blocks..

One thing I like about the minergate client is that you don't even have to use Minergate's mining service, you can enable custom pools and connect to any freely accessible pool you like.  For example, I do this with BCN and Minergate takes zero profit.

[SaltyDog]

.68 TH/s   

2017.12.23 .00012001 BW 33% / SL 34% / BC %33
2017.12.24 .00012518 BW 33% / SL 34% / BC %33
2017.12.25 .00012182 BW 33% / SL 34% / BC %33
2017.12.26 .00012162 BW 33% / SL 34% / BC %33
2017.12.27 .00012579 BW 33% / SL 34% / BC %33
2017.12.28 .00012884 BW 33% / SL 34% / BC %33

[sumolpunk]

Anyone know where to find something like this that is up to date?  Looks like this might have been last updated in 2015.

Taking the data as if it was current (again, not 100% sure):

AntPool - PPLNS & PPS - fees kept by pool - PPS fee 2.5% - other fee 0%
BTC.com - FPPS - fees shared w/ miners - PPS fee 0% - other fee 4%
Slush - Score - fees shared w/ miners - PPS fee 0% - other fee 2%
F2Pool - PPS - fees kept by pool - PPS fee 3% - other fee 0%

At quick glance it would seem Slush is the best paying depending on how that "other" 2% of fees are applied but based on our payouts (the last few weeks at least) we have NOT been getting any of the transaction fees on top of the block reward and is being kept by Hashflare.

Their website says this:  "After the system calculates your hashrate's input and the total payout from that pool you will be given your share of the mined BTC"

Since it says "total payout" from that pool one would deduce that actually means "total" which would include the fees if said pool pays fees to miners...but then again, there is the part about "given your share of the mined BTC" of which "fees" themselves are not mined.

So yeah, we're not getting paid the fees and I'm not so sure we have anything to complain about and might just have to chalk this up as one of the caveats of mining with Hashflare..

[shmocs]

I can say I am OK with SlushPool. See my video for the last 10 days earnings.

http://cloudmining.tools/img/hashflare-24_12-30_12.png
2017.12.24   0.00012612   100% SlushPool
2017.12.25   0.00012273   100% SlushPool
2017.12.26   0.00012252   100% SlushPool
2017.12.27   0.00012672   100% SlushPool
2017.12.28   0.00012980   100% SlushPool
2017.12.29   0.00012950   100% SlushPool
2017.12.30   0.00013686   100% SlushPool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feNa_jyZKBQ

I also explain why I stick with 100% SlushPool.
Hope it helps. Keep you posted.

[TekCoinz]

I have been collecting information on HashFlare pools and aggregating it here for others to use, so I wanted to share it as a resource.  It would also be great if others contribute as well since there is a wealth of information in this thread.

http://www.cryptocron.org/wiki/HashFlare_Mining_Pools

[Doug E. Dee]

12/29/17 0.00013769 BTC Revenue per 1 TH 50/50 F2/AP.

Date and amount info gathered by hovering over latest bar in Revenue per 1 TH/s area.

[shmocs]

...
2017.12.27: 0.00012870 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.28: 0.00013183 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.29: 0.00013153 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.30: 0.00013900 - 100% Antpool

yep... it seems you beat me with Antpool
Anyways I will stick some more days/weeks with SlushPool 100% to see the evolution.

[sumolpunk]

2017.12.14: 0.00015274 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.15: 0.00016215 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.16: 0.00015657 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.17: 0.00014935 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.18: 0.00015026 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.19: 0.00014398 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.20: 0.00012560 - 34% Antpool / 33% F2Pool / 33% Slush
2017.12.21: 0.00013179 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.22: 0.00013496 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.23: 0.00012280 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.24: 0.00012809 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.25: 0.00012465 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.26: 0.00012443 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.27: 0.00012870 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.28: 0.00013183 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.29: 0.00013153 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.30: 0.00013900 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.31: 0.00014293 - 100% Antpool

I wanted to change to slush based on the transaction fees being shared among the miners and antpool having too much "weight" in the faith system but realized we don't know enough details about HF as to what pay structure within slush that it chooses to use, (might also not pay transaction fees).  Also I think someone mentioned it already but I also recall reading on the HF website that the daily payout is also based on some kind of averaging system across all of it's users mining operations but clearly that's not the case otherwise one would expect our daily per TH/s metrics to be the same across the board.  The fact that they are very close is reassuring to say the least from one perspective, just still really curious about the extra profits from the blockchain saturation.

[manduul]

Wow, Cloud mining sucks! Sorry guys, but for reals.

I have an S9 and I'm averaging like .000222 per Th. I'm 100% on Slush Some days you like .0038 a day, some days .0012. And it all equals to .0028