[DASH] What happened to Masternode Blinding? [DARKSEND UNUSABLE]

[DrkLvr_]

DASH mixing takes a very long time






Months before, Evan made a big deal out of Masternode blinding

Masternode blinding is working  

It's super fast, secure and should reduce mixing time by 80%+

https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin/commits/masternode-blinding

There is NO issue with Darksend, in fact the new masternode blinding system is quite impressive.

Masternode blinding was announced with much fanfare. All the usual suspects were so excited!








But then it was delayed  

************ Please Update To 11.2.22! ****************

- DS Speed Improvements : Darksend should be lightning fast now on mainnet. We're going to delay the implementation of masternode blinding because there's two separate mobile wallets that are in the process of implementing Darksend and the reference implementation needs to be super stable during this period of time. Once we have the mobile wallets done (which should have Darksend and InstantX support) we can move back to improving Darksend.

So now that both mobile wallets have been implemented, why hasn't the working Masternode Blinding been implemented into DASH? Why is it still taking 20+ hours to send a simple anon tx with DASH ??

[smoothie]

Answer: because it isn't a top priority at the moment.

It was and now it isn't.

Much of it has to do with the current buzzword going around at the time.

[smoothie]

DASH mixing takes a very long time






Months before, Evan had made a big deal out of Masternode blinding

Masternode blinding is working  

It's super fast, secure and should reduce mixing time by 80%+

https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin/commits/masternode-blinding

There is NO issue with Darksend, in fact the new masternode blinding system is quite impressive.

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Wow so if we use the reduction of 80% then it originally took 100 hours to mix dash using dark send?

Either that or Evan spoke too soon because he behind the scenes developer wasnt done yet or evan straight up lied.

[DrkLvr_]

Wow so if we use the reduction of 80% then it originally took 100 hours to mix dash using dark send?

Either that or Evan spoke too soon because he behind the scenes developer wasnt done yet or evan straight up lied.

It seems the 20 hours should have been improved to 4 hours, but it was never actually implemented.

[generalizethis]

Wow so if we use the reduction of 80% then it originally took 100 hours to mix dash using dark send?

Either that or Evan spoke too soon because he behind the scenes developer wasnt done yet or evan straight up lied.

It seems the 20 hours should have been improved to 4 hours, but it was never actually implemented.

Was four hours suppose to be super fast?

[ArticMine]

Mixing Dash is actually very simple.

1) Sell Dash for XMR on Poloniex
2) Send XMR to own XMR address
3) Send XMR to a second XMR address with a mixin of say 5
4) Sell XMR for Dash on Shapeshift.io

Voila! Mixed Dash. No need to wait for weeks or worry about masternode blinding.

Edit: When sending the XMR to Shapeshift.io also use a mixin of say 5

[smoothie]

Wow so if we use the reduction of 80% then it originally took 100 hours to mix dash using dark send?

Either that or Evan spoke too soon because he behind the scenes developer wasnt done yet or evan straight up lied.

It seems the 20 hours should have been improved to 4 hours, but it was never actually implemented.

Was four hours suppose to be super fast?

In "Dash-talk" yes I guess so.

Their community appears to operate in an alternate dimension where time is not a factor of importance.

[DrkLvr_]

Are we going to get a response from the DASH crew on this or what?

Why is the Github showing 404 now? Has Masternode blinding been abandoned?

Are DASH users stuck with 20+ hours of mixing time to send a simple anon tx for the next 12-18 months?

[illodin]

Are DASH users stuck with 20+ hours of mixing time to send a simple anon tx for the next 12-18 months?

You can have standard coins and anonymous coins in your DASH wallet. You can mix standard coins and they will become anonymous coins. This process currently takes time. When you have anonymous coins in your wallet you have mixed a month ago for example, you can spend them immediately, there's no waiting as they have already been mixed.

[obit33]

Mixing Dash is actually very simple.

1) Sell Dash for XMR on Poloniex
2) Send XMR to own XMR address
3) Send XMR to a second XMR address with a mixin of say 5
4) Sell XMR for Dash on Shapeshift.io

Voila! Mixed Dash. No need to wait for weeks or worry about masternode blinding.

Edit: When sending the XMR to Shapeshift.io also use a mixin of say 5

hats of to you sir, I laughed a lot, especially because it seems to be true also...

best regards

[aleix]

What a surprise. The usual trolls from the Monero community talking about Dash in a new thread (as usual).

Lovely 

[DrkLvr_]

Are DASH users stuck with 20+ hours of mixing time to send a simple anon tx for the next 12-18 months?

You can have standard coins and anonymous coins in your DASH wallet. You can mix standard coins and they will become anonymous coins. This process currently takes time. When you have anonymous coins in your wallet you have mixed a month ago for example, you can spend them immediately, there's no waiting as they have already been mixed.

I see. So if I want to send an anon transaction of 100 DASH, I'll buy the coins on the exchange and send it to my DASH wallet.  Then I'll need to wait 20+ hours before I can send 100 DASH as an anon tx. How is that "Lighting fast" ? Have you ever seen a bolt of lightning in the sky for 20+ hours? Because I haven't  

[iCEBREAKER]

It takes 20+ hours for a Dash transaction.

The problem was supposedly fixed 8 months ago.

But Masternode blinding is MIA.

I'm sure there's a completely plausible Duffsplanation for this, just like there was for the "accidental" instamine.

[illodin]

Are DASH users stuck with 20+ hours of mixing time to send a simple anon tx for the next 12-18 months?

You can have standard coins and anonymous coins in your DASH wallet. You can mix standard coins and they will become anonymous coins. This process currently takes time. When you have anonymous coins in your wallet you have mixed a month ago for example, you can spend them immediately, there's no waiting as they have already been mixed.

I see. So if I want to send an anon transaction of 100 DASH, I'll buy the coins on the exchange and send it to my DASH wallet.  Then I'll need to wait 20+ hours before I can send 100 DASH as an anon tx. How is that "Lighting fast" ? Have you ever seen a bolt of lightning in the sky for 20+ hours? Because I haven't  

I'm sorry you didn't like the answer.

If you don't have any anonymous coins mixed already and your use case is to keep buying them on an exchange so you can send them immediately, that opens you to all kinds of timing attack vulnerabilities. Perhaps rethinking your approach would be advisable.

[generalizethis]

Are DASH users stuck with 20+ hours of mixing time to send a simple anon tx for the next 12-18 months?

You can have standard coins and anonymous coins in your DASH wallet. You can mix standard coins and they will become anonymous coins. This process currently takes time. When you have anonymous coins in your wallet you have mixed a month ago for example, you can spend them immediately, there's no waiting as they have already been mixed.

I see. So if I want to send an anon transaction of 100 DASH, I'll buy the coins on the exchange and send it to my DASH wallet.  Then I'll need to wait 20+ hours before I can send 100 DASH as an anon tx. How is that "Lighting fast" ? Have you ever seen a bolt of lightning in the sky for 20+ hours? Because I haven't  

I'm sorry you didn't like Dash's answer to anonymity.

With Dash if you don't have any anonymous coins mixed already and your use case is to keep buying them on an exchange so you can send them immediately, that opens you to all kinds of timing attack vulnerabilities. Perhaps rethinking using Dash would be would be advisable.

FTFY

[DrkLvr_]

On April 9 2015 eduffield said anon Darksend transactions were "Lighting fast"

************ Please Update To 11.2.22! ****************

- DS Speed Improvements : Darksend should be lightning fast now on mainnet. We're going to delay the implementation of masternode blinding because there's two separate mobile wallets that are in the process of implementing Darksend and the reference implementation needs to be super stable during this period of time. Once we have the mobile wallets done (which should have Darksend and InstantX support) we can move back to improving Darksend.

Yet it still takes atleast 20+ hours to send one. How is that lighting fast?

The failure to implement Masternode Blinding as promised would seem to explain the dumps for the past 6 months. Is this also the reason Stonehedge abandoned DASH?

[DrkLvr_]

Can we get an update from the DASH team about the ETA for Masternode Blinding? DASH mixing is horribly slow and unuseable. Thanks.

[smoothie]

DASH mixing takes a very long time





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************ Please Update To 11.2.22! ****************

- DS Speed Improvements : Darksend should be lightning fast now on mainnet. We're going to delay the implementation of masternode blinding because there's two separate mobile wallets that are in the process of implementing Darksend and the reference implementation needs to be super stable during this period of time. Once we have the mobile wallets done (which should have Darksend and InstantX support) we can move back to improving Darksend.

You missed that one where he says Darksend should be lightning fast now.

20 hours from that user above....is "LIGHTNING FAST" 

[smoothie]

Mixing Dash is actually very simple.

1) Sell Dash for XMR on Poloniex
2) Send XMR to own XMR address
3) Send XMR to a second XMR address with a mixin of say 5
4) Sell XMR for Dash on Shapeshift.io

Voila! Mixed Dash. No need to wait for weeks or worry about masternode blinding.

Edit: When sending the XMR to Shapeshift.io also use a mixin of say 5

hats of to you sir, I laughed a lot, especially because it seems to be true also...

best regards

Artic that was pretty smoooth. 

[smoothie]

It takes 20+ hours for a Dash transaction.

The problem was supposedly fixed 8 months ago.

But Masternode blinding is MIA.

I'm sure there's a completely plausible Duffsplanation for this, just like there was for the "accidental" instamine.

20 hours is just the tip of the iceberg look at below 72 hours:

This reddit discussion from a few months ago gives insight into how long darksend mixing should/could take:


link: https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/3etq0y/what_is_the_point_of_darksend_mixing_in_the/

2d2d2d2aasdasd

In the dashcore wallet it has darksend mixing, it doesnt give any options but says 1000drk/2 rounds, so it will try to mix my balance of 10drk 100x over? or 200x over? Whats the point of this if i can darksend when i send payment?
edit: Its been over 2 hours and only says 8% which it said 20minutes into it, it keeps saying it failed will retry like theres something wrong with the network, is darksend a working feature?

Tungfa:

You can change the mixing settings in " Wallet Preferences"
Mixing makes pre mixed coins available for DS ! For the mixing you need other coins/wallets to be mixing with you, so if nobody is online mixing it will take longer. be patient, DS works

2d2d2d2aasdasd:

Its been running since i made this post and its only at 9%, how patient do i have to be, like 72 hours patient?

Tungfa:

depends on how many coins, how many rounds
what are you doing 1000 Dash / 2 Rounds ? 72 hours definitely

2d2d2d2aasdasd:

I dont even have 1000 dash, i have like $20 worth. Its set at 1000 dash by default but im assuming that means it will mix up to 1000, right, like how could it mix more than there is?
So basically to use dash anonymously i got to leave my computer on for 3 days?