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December 09, 2015, 05:23:25 PM
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The odds are always against so, just sometimes not...  Grin in other words, gamble dust and have fun, or let it be.

When a site says that it's probability fair, doesn't this mean you are playing at 50/50? Like 50% possibilities to win and 50% possibilities to lose? I think this is real probable fair, everything else is just bullshit, it's not fair even if it's 0.1+ in favor of the house.

No I think you are confusing it with Provably Fair, the house edge is different and most have a house edge, some very low but they have it. Provably Fair is that you can verify the play beforehand and after you bet so there's nothing shady going on.

Exactly. What you should look at is the house edge of the game. For example, for bitcoin dice games, most of the sites have a house edge of 1%, and it means the site is expected to take 1% of your wagered on the average in the probability sense.

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December 09, 2015, 07:00:22 PM
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Yeah if you bet the same thing over and over like just around 10 dollars then you will lose the money at the end.
I have heard when you bet more like 50 dollars you have a high chances that you will win some, but still lose.
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December 09, 2015, 07:03:16 PM
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Its because you are doing it wrong! Instead of depositing with very high amounts at first, try betting with smaller amounts and see how the game works.Even though the rolls or spins are completely random you can still study a sort of patters.
Here's how I do it:
First play any game with smaller bets ,like even free faucets would do.

Consider a simple dice game for example :
Assume I'm betting on high here
1st roll : Low win
2nd roll: Low win
3rd roll: Low win
Now 4th Roll I'm sure it WILL be more probability of HIGH win as there has already been 3 low's so I'll take a risk and put more money this time in the game (by more money i meant what I can afford to lose).
Works for me ,not every time but yeah obviously I carry out detailed analysis.
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December 09, 2015, 07:26:06 PM
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Its because you are doing it wrong! Instead of depositing with very high amounts at first, try betting with smaller amounts and see how the game works.Even though the rolls or spins are completely random you can still study a sort of patters.
Here's how I do it:
First play any game with smaller bets ,like even free faucets would do.

Consider a simple dice game for example :
Assume I'm betting on high here
1st roll : Low win
2nd roll: Low win
3rd roll: Low win
Now 4th Roll I'm sure it WILL be more probability of HIGH win as there has already been 3 low's so I'll take a risk and put more money this time in the game (by more money i meant what I can afford to lose).
Works for me ,not every time but yeah obviously I carry out detailed analysis.

Hahhaha well that is a crazy method if you lose 3rd roll that you will be more lucky in the 4th roll.
Well maybe I am such a gambler so if I lose the 2nd roll I just stop.
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December 09, 2015, 07:55:24 PM
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Its because you are doing it wrong! Instead of depositing with very high amounts at first, try betting with smaller amounts and see how the game works.Even though the rolls or spins are completely random you can still study a sort of patters.
Here's how I do it:
First play any game with smaller bets ,like even free faucets would do.

Consider a simple dice game for example :
Assume I'm betting on high here
1st roll : Low win
2nd roll: Low win
3rd roll: Low win
Now 4th Roll I'm sure it WILL be more probability of HIGH win as there has already been 3 low's so I'll take a risk and put more money this time in the game (by more money i meant what I can afford to lose).
Works for me ,not every time but yeah obviously I carry out detailed analysis.

by the way this won't change the odds , when you lose three rolls in a row the odds of winning the 4th roll will stay 49.5%
that way of thinking what makes people believe in martinagle , cause they think that after getting a big amount of highs they will get a low after that
dice will never remember what the previous roll was  Wink
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December 09, 2015, 08:00:23 PM
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by the way this won't change the odds , when you lose three rolls in a row the odds of winning the 4th roll will stay 49.5%
that way of thinking what makes people believe in martinagle , cause they think that after getting a big amount of highs they will get a low after that
dice will never remember what the previous roll was  Wink
Yeah that's true! But since we're gambling I tend to impose some behavior or pattern in the game which is completely stupid but it just gives me more confidence in betting rather then just lazily clicking the buttons.At the end of the day its all based on luck but its good to follow your own ideas and assumptions I reckon.
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December 09, 2015, 08:46:19 PM
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Because the owner is always win in the end no matter what happen even you reverse the world the owner always win...
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December 09, 2015, 09:55:11 PM
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hi, why a gambling site, the more i bet higher the possibility of the loss bigger.
till my balance is not sufficient anymore to bett again Smiley I often have it . whether other gambling sites are also the same, apply it as it also Huh Huh


I'm guessing you're using martingale as a system to bet on, which is bad because sooner or later you will get that losing streak and lose your balance.
You should know that the chances of you winning or losing have nothing to do with amount you're betting or the amount of bets you did,
if the site is provably fair that is, and you can easily check that out.

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December 10, 2015, 01:44:09 AM
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It seems like that to you because you pay more attention when betting bigger amounts, unless the site isnt provably fair. Sites like that cannot change the betting-win-probability dependig on the amount bet.

I think, your correct. Once one start playing dice games for longer time than they will realize that whether it is small or bigger bet they will surely lose the money. But if site is not probably fair than they can easily put some conditions like if any one bet certain amount than site should win, it is also possible. 
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December 10, 2015, 03:26:52 AM
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Its because you are doing it wrong! Instead of depositing with very high amounts at first, try betting with smaller amounts and see how the game works.Even though the rolls or spins are completely random you can still study a sort of patters.
Here's how I do it:
First play any game with smaller bets ,like even free faucets would do.

Consider a simple dice game for example :
Assume I'm betting on high here
1st roll : Low win
2nd roll: Low win
3rd roll: Low win
Now 4th Roll I'm sure it WILL be more probability of HIGH win as there has already been 3 low's so I'll take a risk and put more money this time in the game (by more money i meant what I can afford to lose).
Works for me ,not every time but yeah obviously I carry out detailed analysis.

Hahhaha well that is a crazy method if you lose 3rd roll that you will be more lucky in the 4th roll.
Well maybe I am such a gambler so if I lose the 2nd roll I just stop.

I think people even lost continuously 40+ rolls in dice games so I don't think these games are fair enough to believe them. So for what I know is, no one can make money from dice game except site owner. I just played some time for fun with free money from sites but surely they will win at the end for sure.
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December 10, 2015, 04:06:19 AM
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I think people even lost continuously 40+ rolls in dice games so I don't think these games are fair enough to believe them. So for what I know is, no one can make money from dice game except site owner. I just played some time for fun with free money from sites but surely they will win at the end for sure.

I don't see how "someone getting a long lost streak" would draw the conclusion that the game is not fair enough. Seriously, if you flip a fair 50/50 coin yourself, you won't expect to see "HTHTHTHTHT...", will you? Instead, long H streaks and long T streaks should appear naturally as you flip it millions of times. Plus, most of the dice sites are provably fair and players could (and should) verify the bets themselves.

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December 10, 2015, 04:08:24 AM
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hi, why a gambling site, the more i bet higher the possibility of the loss bigger.
till my balance is not sufficient anymore to bett again Smiley I often have it . whether other gambling sites are also the same, apply it as it also Huh Huh


yeah I experienced the same thing as you, when I try a small bet for fishing red betting always win, when I increase my bet and I lost. I do not know if this is just my feelings or the other Sad

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December 10, 2015, 04:10:13 AM
Last edit: December 10, 2015, 06:07:15 AM by Arcteryx
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You just notice it more when you bet a larger amount. The smaller ones don't hurt as much so less noticeable by you when you are on a streak or in other words not a winning streak.
Just bet small then if you win bet +1 on top of that or if you lose -1. For betting larger amounts so to win, is to bet in increments, that is the key to successful winning on increasing amounts. Not going all in in or betting half your bank in one shot. That is just carelessness.

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December 10, 2015, 04:21:03 AM
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hi, why a gambling site, the more i bet higher the possibility of the loss bigger.
till my balance is not sufficient anymore to bett again Smiley I often have it . whether other gambling sites are also the same, apply it as it also Huh Huh


yeah I experienced the same thing as you, when I try a small bet for fishing red betting always win, when I increase my bet and I lost. I do not know if this is just my feelings or the other Sad

i think it is more just of a feeling or so. i also try to play with firends on poker which i always win but when we talk about money, end up i lose. so it is mainly a feeling. i do win but most of the time i end up losing.
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December 10, 2015, 04:24:01 AM
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If you are upset about the amount of a losing bet(s), then you are betting too much, my friend.
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December 10, 2015, 05:42:52 AM
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hi, why a gambling site, the more i bet higher the possibility of the loss bigger.
till my balance is not sufficient anymore to bett again Smiley I often have it . whether other gambling sites are also the same, apply it as it also Huh Huh


This is just some luck. Dont really apply it for me though. I dont really think that there have this kind of things in every site because things like this will never exist in gambling. All gambling things are based on luck so whether you win on small and lose on big bet. Just try to always do small betting you will suffer much loss too if you are playing it too long
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December 10, 2015, 09:14:41 AM
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hi, why a gambling site, the more i bet higher the possibility of the loss bigger.
till my balance is not sufficient anymore to bett again Smiley I often have it . whether other gambling sites are also the same, apply it as it also Huh Huh


yeah I experienced the same thing as you, when I try a small bet for fishing red betting always win, when I increase my bet and I lost. I do not know if this is just my feelings or the other Sad

i think it is more just of a feeling or so. i also try to play with firends on poker which i always win but when we talk about money, end up i lose. so it is mainly a feeling. i do win but most of the time i end up losing.

but not only in the dice game I experienced the same thing. I ever played casino like head n tails, when I choose 3x head appearing always tails and vice versa. I felt like there was fraud

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December 10, 2015, 09:30:26 AM
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When you start to lose you should have some kind of strategy to try to win next rounds. I find it with dice harder to come up with a strategy.
If you keep losing while playing the same game, you should try something else before you run out of funds.

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December 10, 2015, 09:32:37 AM
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When you start to lose you should have some kind of strategy to try to win next rounds. I find it with dice harder to come up with a strategy.
If you keep losing while playing the same game, you should try something else before you run out of funds.

True is the third round I will lose again I just stop like dice, but if it is roullete I can go on and on.
I don't know what but roullete is so much fun.
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December 10, 2015, 09:58:46 AM
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Why would you do this?
When you start to lose you should either lower your bets or take a break for a couple of minutes.
Increasing your bets while you're losing is just not logical.
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