TheGr33k (OP)
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December 09, 2015, 03:23:46 PM |
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Razick
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December 10, 2015, 01:49:35 AM |
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I'm a Republican, but I am far more free-market, states-rights, pro-fiscal-restraint and pro-civil rights than the Republican party (for example I would repeal Social Security, at least in any thing close to its current form). I also don't agree with many Republicans on immigration and spying.
I'm basically a Libertarian except that I support a ban on abortion (although in my opinion that's compatible with Libertarian ideology since the baby, in my view, is a living person with a right to live),environmental regulation (ideally market-based), the FDIC, and a basic social safety net (to name a few less-Libertarian positions).
Today's political labels are far too simplistic. Almost no one I've ever met tows the party line on every issue.
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That said, I do tow the party line in one key way: On *almost* every issue, I prefer the GOP position to the Democratic position. Although on some I'm firmly in the middle and a few rare pet issues align me with Democrats. In any race except for local races I almost always vote for the GOP candidate or not at all.
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December 10, 2015, 01:53:26 AM |
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Today's political labels are far too simplistic. Almost no one I've ever met tows the party line on every issue.
this exactly. the two party system is flawed as is, and no one should feel compelled to associate themselves with one party because of a few political belifs / ideas that align with that particular party's ideas. i have my own opinions on varying issues, and those beliefs coincide with the beliefs / views of both parties. that aside, the candidates of both parties are shit to me.
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theres nothing here. message me if you want to put something here.
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cameronpalte
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December 10, 2015, 01:59:26 AM |
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bryant.coleman
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December 10, 2015, 02:11:10 AM |
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The Republicans are not an united block, unlike the case with the Democrats. They are mainly split in to three camps. The first group is the RINOs, who are basically Democrats in a republican coating (Lisa Murkowski, John McCain, Susan Collins.etc). The second group is the establishment Republicans (John Boner, Mitt Romney.etc). The third group consists of Libertarian Republicans (Rand Paul, Ted Cruz.etc). I am not a resident of the United States. But if it was so, then I would have supported the Libertarian wing of the Republican party.
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December 10, 2015, 02:45:43 AM |
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You should have included an independent in this group. I would not classify myself as neither. They are all crooks to one point or another.
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hey you, yeah you, fuck you!!!
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December 10, 2015, 02:50:07 AM |
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I am a democrat because, democrats have feelings for the poor, sick and unemployed. They are willing to help people in need. Even many rich folks will come to the aid of those in trouble.
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December 10, 2015, 04:37:04 AM |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemmaOP: are you Korean or Hawaiian? You can only choose one. I am a democrat because, democrats have feelings for the poor, sick and unemployed. They are willing to help people in need. Even many rich folks will come to the aid of those in trouble.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/naivenaive
adjective 2. having or showing a lack of experience, judgment, or information; credulous: She's so naive she believes everything she reads. He has a very naive attitude toward politics.
Democrats have zero intention of helping the needy; their only purpose is to make more needy people, which increases their power. Whether this is done by crippling the young from being able to function properly in the market, to importing needy people from 3rd world countries into the nation, to paying people off to do nothing with their lives and live off the well being of others (which makes it harder for others to survive), all that matters is that everyone is helpless so that democrats (well, more like progressives I guess) are necessary to care for them. If you truly want to help the needy, you would reject them, and encourage an environment where the needy can help themselves, which would mean lifting all the expensive restrictions on the poor which stops them from forming their own businesses, thereby becoming self-reliant. Please, don't support an institution which seeks to turn the nation into the pets of the ruling classes.
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BadBear
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December 10, 2015, 04:51:36 AM |
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The root of the problem is our election process. It inevitably leads to a 2 party system. The fact that neither party truly represents a majority, is a large part of the reason why so many people are disinterested in politics. I don't support either party, they're both terrible. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo
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justspare
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December 10, 2015, 05:21:09 AM |
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The root of the problem is our election process. It inevitably leads to a 2 party system. The fact that neither party truly represents a majority, is a large part of the reason why so many people are disinterested in politics. I don't support either party, they're both terrible. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyoI agree. I would like to see more independent people who run for the elections.
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zivone
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December 10, 2015, 05:23:32 AM |
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It doesn't matter anyway. I get they have differences but they are actually just the same making the nation worse.
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December 10, 2015, 05:30:22 AM |
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I still think US politics is pretty ridiculous, or maybe i don't understand it enough. Why does everything in the US has to be either or? Often the right solution is somewhere in the middle but you cant get there because....well.. http://extrafabulouscomics.com/comic/200/because thats you. You guys are so polarizing on your most important issues. Nothing in this world is either black or white, then why of all things should this apply to politics? I am not a US citizen so maybe i am not qualified to comment on this, but let me say that i live in a country that has much more than 2 parties in parlament, in a country that values diversity of opinios. And i would like to see some of this in the US too.
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HarHarHar9965
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December 10, 2015, 07:49:40 AM |
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I am republican But Still I like Democratic rule. Its completely go with every common people and little similar to communism too. In democratic countries President and other cabinet are select by voting system.thats also a good part.
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Pastafarian
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December 10, 2015, 07:53:07 AM |
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December 10, 2015, 02:12:57 PM |
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I am a democrat because, democrats have feelings for the poor, sick and unemployed. They are willing to help people in need. Even many rich folks will come to the aid of those in trouble.
Thanks for the good laugh mate . I've almost wet myself when I read that "They are willing to help people in need". You could make a great carrier as a gagman .
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TheGr33k (OP)
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December 10, 2015, 03:37:01 PM |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemmaOP: are you Korean or Hawaiian? You can only choose one. I am a democrat because, democrats have feelings for the poor, sick and unemployed. They are willing to help people in need. Even many rich folks will come to the aid of those in trouble.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/naivenaive
adjective 2. having or showing a lack of experience, judgment, or information; credulous: She's so naive she believes everything she reads. He has a very naive attitude toward politics.
Democrats have zero intention of helping the needy; their only purpose is to make more needy people, which increases their power. Whether this is done by crippling the young from being able to function properly in the market, to importing needy people from 3rd world countries into the nation, to paying people off to do nothing with their lives and live off the well being of others (which makes it harder for others to survive), all that matters is that everyone is helpless so that democrats (well, more like progressives I guess) are necessary to care for them. If you truly want to help the needy, you would reject them, and encourage an environment where the needy can help themselves, which would mean lifting all the expensive restrictions on the poor which stops them from forming their own businesses, thereby becoming self-reliant. Please, don't support an institution which seeks to turn the nation into the pets of the ruling classes. You didn't have to shame him by calling him naive. Be more polite when it comes to your opinions and beliefs, please
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bryant.coleman
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December 10, 2015, 03:52:56 PM |
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The root of the problem is our election process. It inevitably leads to a 2 party system. The fact that neither party truly represents a majority, is a large part of the reason why so many people are disinterested in politics. A two party system prevents the need for unstable alliances, thereby giving the government the luxury of ruling for the fixed term without bothering about the need for finding additional support every now and then. I agree that one of the disadvantages is the exclusion of the smaller parties, but then every system has its own merits and demerits.
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Razick
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December 11, 2015, 01:01:30 AM |
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I still think US politics is pretty ridiculous, or maybe i don't understand it enough. Why does everything in the US has to be either or? Often the right solution is somewhere in the middle but you cant get there because....well.. http://extrafabulouscomics.com/comic/200/because thats you. You guys are so polarizing on your most important issues. Nothing in this world is either black or white, then why of all things should this apply to politics? I am not a US citizen so maybe i am not qualified to comment on this, but let me say that i live in a country that has much more than 2 parties in parlament, in a country that values diversity of opinios. And i would like to see some of this in the US too. Well, let me ask you this: I believe that the U.S. government spends *far* too much money (and that's basically a fact because our debt is out of control and our social programs heading towards bankruptcy despite record tax revenue). The Democrats want to waste even more money, and there is no chance of a third party candidate winning office. How can I compromise? ---- The problem is that the two parties, although they do compromise, represent people with VERY different ways of living. One side wants freedom to live our own lives with minimal government interference, while the other side wants a MASSIVE, economy crushing, life-altering, irresponsibly out-of-control, government. The choice is between America being the land of the free as it was and being like Greece in 10-20 years. We likely will compromise and end up with something like France, but the reality is that to someone like me that sounds like a horrible outcome since everyone will be poorer and less free. Should I stand aside and compromise or fight for what is right? You say the middle is the best but is it really? On some issues, sure, but on others not only is the middle not the best place to be, but we're also far beyond it. ---- It's really a battle between the ideas that made the United States one of the best places on earth to live and the ideas that made Mexico, Cuba, North Korea and Syria countries that people want to leave for the US. We shouldn't even be debating this because the evidence (economic, statistical and historical) all points to freedom being the answer, and yet we are.
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Beliathon
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December 12, 2015, 04:14:58 AM |
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I'm a Nukeocrat
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bryant.coleman
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December 12, 2015, 06:11:59 AM |
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Well, let me ask you this:
I believe that the U.S. government spends *far* too much money (and that's basically a fact because our debt is out of control and our social programs heading towards bankruptcy despite record tax revenue). The Democrats want to waste even more money, and there is no chance of a third party candidate winning office. Well.. that is the advantage you have, when your national currency is widely regarded as the reserve currency of the world. It is very easy to sell the 30-year or 20-year treasury bonds, at little or no interest. The Americans can accumulate as much debt as they want. There will always be people who are ready to purchase it.
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