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December 19, 2015, 11:12:25 PM
Last edit: December 19, 2015, 11:53:42 PM by jackringer
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Still didnt receive any payment. Huh OP will be help?

If you didn't do anything wrong they will pay. I played same freeroll last night suffered some horrendous beats on final table but made withdrawl and was paid in a few hours.

I also believe they will be paid. Last night ı was winner of weekly freeoll.

Edit:I received. Thanks Betcoin.tm
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December 20, 2015, 05:06:16 PM
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How long withdrawal in the confirmation ?
I request withdrawal of about 5 hours ago until now I have not received bitcoin.
Do I have to wait max 24 hours ?

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December 20, 2015, 05:12:46 PM
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How long withdrawal in the confirmation ?
I request withdrawal of about 5 hours ago until now I have not received bitcoin.
Do I have to wait max 24 hours ?

Afaik they do manual withdraw especially for new account to check that everything is OK, and it is Sunday so maybe they are not online atm.  I have no issue in withdrawal in the last few days, so just be patient and wait.

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December 20, 2015, 05:26:37 PM
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How long withdrawal in the confirmation ?
I request withdrawal of about 5 hours ago until now I have not received bitcoin.
Do I have to wait max 24 hours ?

Afaik they do manual withdraw especially for new account to check that everything is OK, and it is Sunday so maybe they are not online atm.  I have no issue in withdrawal in the last few days, so just be patient and wait.

Yes you are right I am using a new account I will follow your instructions wait CS online
Thank you for this info

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December 21, 2015, 01:51:27 AM
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This casino blackjack is set up wrong.

In rules dealer must hit Soft 17.

Dealer does not know true meaning of soft 17.

If Dealer is hitting for example 16 Ten + Six and receive an Ace for its next card the dealer will draw again. This is not definition of soft 17. This is dealer hitting a hard 17. I'm not sure if is advantage for player or house because dealer will bust many time hitting hard 17 but time against me dealer hit the hard 17 to 21 and beat my 20.

Soft 17 means when Dealer start with any Ace in their hand not when after they have drawn an Ace to make 17 do they not get to hit again.

This is serious flaw in their blackjack game and should be fixed immediately. Seem like amateur set up their blackjack game who did not know rules.
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December 21, 2015, 03:31:51 AM
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This casino blackjack is set up wrong.

In rules dealer must hit Soft 17.

Dealer does not know true meaning of soft 17.

If Dealer is hitting for example 16 Ten + Six and receive an Ace for its next card the dealer will draw again. This is not definition of soft 17. This is dealer hitting a hard 17. I'm not sure if is advantage for player or house because dealer will bust many time hitting hard 17 but time against me dealer hit the hard 17 to 21 and beat my 20.

Soft 17 means when Dealer start with any Ace in their hand not when after they have drawn an Ace to make 17 do they not get to hit again.

This is serious flaw in their blackjack game and should be fixed immediately. Seem like amateur set up their blackjack game who did not know rules.


dealer can draw an ace for soft 17, if the ace counts as 11 and the total is 17 it's soft.

T6A is a hard 17 though.  if they are hitting H 17 every time they draw ace it's gotta give player decent bump in ev


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December 21, 2015, 04:34:02 AM
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any problem with https://www.betcoin.tm/multiplayer-poker ?
I can't to play
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December 21, 2015, 04:43:06 AM
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any problem with https://www.betcoin.tm/multiplayer-poker ?
I can't to play

I also can not open poker
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December 21, 2015, 04:47:21 AM
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any problem with https://www.betcoin.tm/multiplayer-poker ?
I can't to play

Yeah seems that there is a problem on the site, it gives me an error message "service unavailable" http://prntscr.com/9gnv86. Not really sure what is happening, but I think they are doing maintenance on the poker games.


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December 21, 2015, 04:47:37 AM
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whether admin does not make for the version Windows client or Mobile version  ?
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December 21, 2015, 04:48:36 AM
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the same with me, i cant open and play.
Service Unavailable. server down or maintanance for poker games. maybe
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December 21, 2015, 04:51:54 AM
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the same with me, i cant open and play.
Service Unavailable. server down or maintanance for poker games. maybe

I've check all seem only to poker -_-
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December 21, 2015, 06:17:11 AM
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This casino blackjack is set up wrong.

In rules dealer must hit Soft 17.

Dealer does not know true meaning of soft 17.

If Dealer is hitting for example 16 Ten + Six and receive an Ace for its next card the dealer will draw again. This is not definition of soft 17. This is dealer hitting a hard 17. I'm not sure if is advantage for player or house because dealer will bust many time hitting hard 17 but time against me dealer hit the hard 17 to 21 and beat my 20.

Hitting soft 17 increases the house edge.

Hitting hard 17 decreases the house edge, but is almost certainly a bug, so maybe they'll use it as an excuse not to pay you if you win from it. It sounds like the game is coded to treat any 17 containing an ace as a soft 17. It would presumably hit like this: A6 -> A6T -> A6TT bust.

This clearly needs to be addressed before it is used to avoid paying out winners.



I posted in the other betcoin.tm thread but never got a reply:

I just signed up at betcoin.tm to take a look around, and I see confusing information about various bonuses. For example, under "FIRST DEPOSIT BONUS":

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if you deposit 1 BTC you will receive an additional 3.01 BTC in your account. to withdraw any winnings from this you need to bet 888x 4.01 BTC ( 1 from deposit and 3.01 from the bonus ) so in total you would need to wager 1555.88 BTC

Fair enough - I deposit 1 BTC and have to wager 1.5k to clear the bonus. But then:

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If you meet the unlock requirement for your bonus, the maximum amount of your balance which becomes available is the original bonus amount.

What does that mean? Suppose I deposit 1 BTC and manage to turn it into 1000 BTC while wagering 1.5k BTC. Am I only allowed to keep 4.01 BTC of it? That seems to be what that condition is saying, and it seems very wrong. The wagering requirement is huge. After wagering 1.5k times my initial deposit I am very likely to either be bust or up a lot. It's unlikely that I'm only up a few BTC by that point. Putting a tiny cap on the amount I can withdraw in the unlikely event that I profit a lot makes this a very unattractive offer.

Edit: I found another problem. The "About" page says:

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Advanced computer encryption algorithms ensure that every game is provably fair, and BetCoin™ games have the lowest house edge and the highest return to player ratio (RTP) available worldwide.

but I checked out the dice game and it actually has the highest house edge and lowest return to player ration (RTP) available worldwide. I guess there's something wrong with the advanced computer encryption algorithms!



>>> 100 - 1.9574 * 50
2.13

That's a massive 2.13% house edge, biggest even than Satoshidice's 1.9% (last time I checked).

Just-Dice, bitdice.me, primedice, prcdice, betcoin.ag, safedice, fastdice, and pretty much every other dice game I can think of has a 1% house edge. So how can you claim this 2.13% game has the lowest house edge available worldwide?

Edit: I was wrong. safedice is 0.5%:

PrimeDice 1%:

bitdice.me 1%:

betcoin.ag 1%:

etc.

I'd like to sign a message saying I love you guys, but my first impressions aren't good.

Edit: I also don't see any way to secure my account with 2FA. You say "BetCoin™ customers don’t need to worry about their funds’ safety, as they enjoy state-of-the-art, hacker-proof security", but you don't even offer google authenticator protection?

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With our system, even if your account password or your email account are compromised, the funds on your BetCoin™ account will be safe as the perpetrators will not be able to cash them out to another wallet than the one you have registered with.

Maybe you're going to ask me for a signed message before I can withdraw, but that's little comfort if a hacker is able to log in and gamble away my balance using just my username and password. Or do I need to sign a message each time I log in as well?

Can I has answers?

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December 21, 2015, 02:43:06 PM
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not confrimed from admin about poker

why,,,I've been using multiple browsers,but still can not open the poker :/
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December 21, 2015, 02:57:36 PM
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not confrimed from admin about poker

why,,,I've been using multiple browsers,but still can not open the poker :/

I also can not open poker perhaps the problem is not in the browser but the site is in trouble should wait for the update

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December 21, 2015, 03:03:27 PM
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It works on both explorer and firefox for me no problem https://www.betcoin.tm/multiplayer-poker
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December 21, 2015, 03:44:26 PM
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It works on both explorer and firefox for me no problem https://www.betcoin.tm/multiplayer-poker

whether a problem with my account -_-
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December 21, 2015, 03:47:44 PM
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It works on both explorer and firefox for me no problem https://www.betcoin.tm/multiplayer-poker
Maybe work on computer browser.
But im using mobile. Its wont load the poker pages.
Been whole day actually. Wondering what happen there. 2more hours for freeroll 0.1 Grin excited

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December 21, 2015, 04:46:19 PM
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Regarding Poker & Other Concerns

Sorry for the problems you all are facing. Right now we are implementing some important security updates to the poker system that may have created some problems.

1. We are implementing VPN blocks for poker. This policy may change, but it may not. VPNs make it much easier for people to try to circumvent the rules and collude while playing. We are in the business of giving you a fun, safe place to play poker against other users. There will be a way for you to be whitelisted in the future, but for now we aren't accepting VPN use. If you have multiple accounts, you WILL be banned from poker if any of the other accounts attempt to play - and we WILL confiscate those winnings and apply them to our weekly 1 BTC freeroll to sweeten the deal for those who are not cheating.

2. Regarding blackjack - looks like you found a mistake, and you'll get a nice 'bug bonus'. We'll be changing BlackJack, but we're not going to stop any of your cashouts. This is our mistake and you shouldn't be punished for finding, and you certainly should be rewarded for pointing it out.

3. Dooglus' calculation of the house edge is incorrect, as it does not take in the 'consolation prize' if you do not win. 0.5% of your bet is returned when you lose. However, since our house edge is 1.65%, it is clear that it isn't the lowest worldwide and we'll have to look into a.) the person that wrote the content for the About Me page and b.) any more mistakes that could have been made such as this. Thanks for pointing it out.

4. The bonus info is super clear on the website - we aren't trying to hide anything and there have been people that have unlocked it. There was one recently that cashed out 5 BTC (though he was promptly called a shill). 888x rollover requirement and you can withdraw the original bonus amount. If you're playing games that have super high odds (95%+) and betting high to try and unlock it, the amount applied to the rollover requirement is reduced.

Please let us know if we missed something.


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December 21, 2015, 04:54:05 PM
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U PMed that u would like to give me 0.01 bonus to try your site, but after i replied u, u didn't credit that money to my account, could u recheck my pm pls? thanks
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