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MPOE-PR (OP)
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January 27, 2013, 08:44:43 AM |
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In the real world, this problem is mooted by simply having someone with the authority to impose obedience by force, an option that we clearly do not have. The reason it's so hard to come up with a system for voluntarily resolving disputes is because most of the population is literally brain damaged. Most people start out in infancy having obedience extracted from them by force and threat instead of mutual negotiation. Those early experiences permanently impair their ability to resolve differences peacefully or have successful voluntary relationships. This is actually likely true. Cheaper to threaten kids innit. Look, they are forming an Aristocracy, to rule over the peasants  Hallo down there. How goes it?  |
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glon
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June 07, 2013, 04:55:51 PM |
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Sorry about necroing this thread but I've spoken to the OP and he's shown me a photo and said he personally knows the guy in the black overall in the middle of this photo: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-stuff-all-good-conspiracy-theories-start-with/WTF is this about you ask? Well, it looks like the OP is at a dinner party with the enterpreneur Wences Casares. So in real life, he happens to know this Wences guy, and in ROTA he then allows someone named Wences (of all names!) to be the plaintiff in the first (and what seems like last) BTC trial? LOL? |
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rini17
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June 07, 2013, 07:22:56 PM |
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Sorry about necroing this thread but I've spoken to the OP and he's shown me a photo and said he personally knows the guy in the black overall in the middle of this photo: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-stuff-all-good-conspiracy-theories-start-with/WTF is this about you ask? Well, it looks like the OP is at a dinner party with the enterpreneur Wences Casares. So in real life, he happens to know this Wences guy, and in ROTA he then allows someone named Wences (of all names!) to be the plaintiff in the first (and what seems like last) BTC trial? LOL? The trial was long before that dinner took place (full disclosure: I was there, too). And you clearly have much to learn if you really think lawsuits make mortal enemies or something. |
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bitcoinbear
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June 07, 2013, 07:26:22 PM |
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Sorry about necroing this thread but I've spoken to the OP and he's shown me a photo and said he personally knows the guy in the black overall in the middle of this photo: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-stuff-all-good-conspiracy-theories-start-with/WTF is this about you ask? Well, it looks like the OP is at a dinner party with the enterpreneur Wences Casares. So in real life, he happens to know this Wences guy, and in ROTA he then allows someone named Wences (of all names!) to be the plaintiff in the first (and what seems like last) BTC trial? LOL? The trial was long before that dinner took place (full disclosure: I was there, too). And you clearly have much to learn if you really think lawsuits make mortal enemies or something. I think that he was trying to go the other way with this conspiracy theory: Since they are friends, the only reason the case was brought before the Rota was because MP wanted it so, the whole thing was a made up excuse to hold the trial and get publicity for MP's little Rota experiment? |
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glon
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June 07, 2013, 07:42:21 PM |
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Sorry about necroing this thread but I've spoken to the OP and he's shown me a photo and said he personally knows the guy in the black overall in the middle of this photo: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-stuff-all-good-conspiracy-theories-start-with/WTF is this about you ask? Well, it looks like the OP is at a dinner party with the enterpreneur Wences Casares. So in real life, he happens to know this Wences guy, and in ROTA he then allows someone named Wences (of all names!) to be the plaintiff in the first (and what seems like last) BTC trial? LOL? The trial was long before that dinner took place (full disclosure: I was there, too). And you clearly have much to learn if you really think lawsuits make mortal enemies or something. Yeah, I figured it might have played out the way you describe - trial first, dinner later. The only reason I became interested in this matter is I recently had some coins stolen from my MtGox account and they are now in this wallet here: https://blockchain.info/address/19GBbg2dLgXC57mN9hx4PEqyN11PNqqg42From there I can trace the transactions back (and yes I know it does not really prove anything) to this address: http://blockchain.info/fb/19stxpIt is the same address that Mr. Wences used to send the "erroneous" 130BTC to Mpex in the ROTA case. And it holds no chump change, usually, either. And really I'm just grasping at straws here, no need to lecture me on how the real world works.... |
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rini17
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June 07, 2013, 08:12:01 PM |
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The only reason I became interested in this matter is I recently had some coins stolen from my MtGox account and they are now in this wallet here: https://blockchain.info/address/19GBbg2dLgXC57mN9hx4PEqyN11PNqqg42From there I can trace the transactions back (and yes I know it does not really prove anything) to this address: http://blockchain.info/fb/19stxpIt is the same address that Mr. Wences used to send the "erroneous" 130BTC to Mpex in the ROTA case. And it holds no chump change, usually, either. And really I'm just grasping at straws here, no need to lecture me on how the real world works.... Feel free to submit a case to Rota, then. |
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glon
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June 07, 2013, 08:15:48 PM |
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The only reason I became interested in this matter is I recently had some coins stolen from my MtGox account and they are now in this wallet here: https://blockchain.info/address/19GBbg2dLgXC57mN9hx4PEqyN11PNqqg42From there I can trace the transactions back (and yes I know it does not really prove anything) to this address: http://blockchain.info/fb/19stxpIt is the same address that Mr. Wences used to send the "erroneous" 130BTC to Mpex in the ROTA case. And it holds no chump change, usually, either. And really I'm just grasping at straws here, no need to lecture me on how the real world works.... Feel free to submit a case to Rota, then. Not sure if serious, but made me laugh either way.  |
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MPOE-PR (OP)
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June 07, 2013, 08:51:52 PM |
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Overall the idea that someone controls all the addresses they send BTC to is about as strong as the idea that someone is in cahoots with anyone they ever interact with.
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glon
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June 07, 2013, 09:02:38 PM
Last edit: June 08, 2013, 12:01:07 AM by glon |
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Overall the idea that someone controls all the addresses they send BTC to is about as strong as the idea that someone is in cahoots with anyone they ever interact with.
Mpex now being "in cahoots" with their former plaintiff (with whom you previously only "ever interacted" via Rota) proves it's not such a weak idea after all.  |
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