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July 04, 2016, 02:50:35 AM
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So with China devaluing currency and the Chinese citizens looking to get their money out of Yuan, do you think buying BTC will be one of their means for doing so?  I dont know much about the capital controls, but if the citizens cant easily take their Yuan and buy other currencies maybe buying BTC will be easier and more efficient for them?  This would be very good news for the BTC price.  Thoughts?

Chinese buying bitcoins, their numbers are large which may bring an increase and huge demands on bitcoin. Given the supply of bitcoin at this moment if the consumers were actively demanding for bitcoins it is likely that the price will go up and many will enjoy. It is one of the most awaited event in bitcoin its increase in price. Chinas passion to bitcoin will help on the increase of its market value which is positive.
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July 04, 2016, 07:36:16 AM
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So with China devaluing currency and the Chinese citizens looking to get their money out of Yuan, do you think buying BTC will be one of their means for doing so?  I dont know much about the capital controls, but if the citizens cant easily take their Yuan and buy other currencies maybe buying BTC will be easier and more efficient for them?  This would be very good news for the BTC price.  Thoughts?

Chinese buying bitcoins, their numbers are large which may bring an increase and huge demands on bitcoin. Given the supply of bitcoin at this moment if the consumers were actively demanding for bitcoins it is likely that the price will go up and many will enjoy. It is one of the most awaited event in bitcoin its increase in price. Chinas passion to bitcoin will help on the increase of its market value which is positive.

I agree, if the price is really making a real demand continuously then we shouldn't see a big dump on the coin, we should only see a slow price increase on it. I really think that the price on the bitcoin is being manipulated by chinese considering the news that I've been reading that more and more chinese are adopting to bitcoin to make a good profit.
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July 04, 2016, 08:15:47 AM
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So with China devaluing currency and the Chinese citizens looking to get their money out of Yuan, do you think buying BTC will be one of their means for doing so?  I dont know much about the capital controls, but if the citizens cant easily take their Yuan and buy other currencies maybe buying BTC will be easier and more efficient for them?  This would be very good news for the BTC price.  Thoughts?

Chinese buying bitcoins, their numbers are large which may bring an increase and huge demands on bitcoin. Given the supply of bitcoin at this moment if the consumers were actively demanding for bitcoins it is likely that the price will go up and many will enjoy. It is one of the most awaited event in bitcoin its increase in price. Chinas passion to bitcoin will help on the increase of its market value which is positive.

I agree, if the price is really making a real demand continuously then we shouldn't see a big dump on the coin, we should only see a slow price increase on it. I really think that the price on the bitcoin is being manipulated by chinese considering the news that I've been reading that more and more chinese are adopting to bitcoin to make a good profit.
Not for long my friend, not chinese people are the major holders of bitcoins, they can move the price but not that much, if you look at the price now, it is starting to move to $700 again and we could easily see that in the next few days.

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July 04, 2016, 11:02:36 AM
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So with China devaluing currency and the Chinese citizens looking to get their money out of Yuan, do you think buying BTC will be one of their means for doing so?  I dont know much about the capital controls, but if the citizens cant easily take their Yuan and buy other currencies maybe buying BTC will be easier and more efficient for them?  This would be very good news for the BTC price.  Thoughts?

Chinese buying bitcoins, their numbers are large which may bring an increase and huge demands on bitcoin. Given the supply of bitcoin at this moment if the consumers were actively demanding for bitcoins it is likely that the price will go up and many will enjoy. It is one of the most awaited event in bitcoin its increase in price. Chinas passion to bitcoin will help on the increase of its market value which is positive.

I agree, if the price is really making a real demand continuously then we shouldn't see a big dump on the coin, we should only see a slow price increase on it. I really think that the price on the bitcoin is being manipulated by chinese considering the news that I've been reading that more and more chinese are adopting to bitcoin to make a good profit.
Not for long my friend, not chinese people are the major holders of bitcoins, they can move the price but not that much, if you look at the price now, it is starting to move to $700 again and we could easily see that in the next few days.

The Chinese are not the major holders. They are just the miners. The major holders are in the West.

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July 05, 2016, 03:41:15 AM
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Yes to an extent China's currency has being a major role in playing btc rates shooting up and down. But majorly its China that dominates the world btc prices . If they decide to sell prices will crash within no time ,



It's not good that so much of bitcoin's potential, future and even price depends of 1 entity. Wasn't that exactly what we didn't want? Centralization?
With china so dominant in the bitcoin scene, too much control is in the hands of 1 entity which we should avoid at all time. The only possible solution is another mining manufacturer stepping up. Along with new (non-chinese) investors.

We do belief in De-centralization of bitcoin, but if chinese people get united and invested a lot in bitcoins, this is probably fair and it is not violating any rules. Other countries should also show such commitments if they want to hold a major share of bitcoins.

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July 05, 2016, 10:30:05 AM
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Yes to an extent China's currency has being a major role in playing btc rates shooting up and down. But majorly its China that dominates the world btc prices . If they decide to sell prices will crash within no time ,



It's not good that so much of bitcoin's potential, future and even price depends of 1 entity. Wasn't that exactly what we didn't want? Centralization?
With china so dominant in the bitcoin scene, too much control is in the hands of 1 entity which we should avoid at all time. The only possible solution is another mining manufacturer stepping up. Along with new (non-chinese) investors.

We do belief in De-centralization of bitcoin, but if chinese people get united and invested a lot in bitcoins, this is probably fair and it is not violating any rules. Other countries should also show such commitments if they want to hold a major share of bitcoins.

That is right. The people in the West or other part of the world should mine and use the bitcoin as well.

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July 05, 2016, 01:09:08 PM
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China have probably some largest BTC mining farms, so of course China have effect on BTC. Chinese BTC mining farms can also exchange BTC to USD, not to local currency, keeping in mind their mining power.  Wink
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July 05, 2016, 02:25:30 PM
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So with China devaluing currency and the Chinese citizens looking to get their money out of Yuan, do you think buying BTC will be one of their means for doing so?  I dont know much about the capital controls, but if the citizens cant easily take their Yuan and buy other currencies maybe buying BTC will be easier and more efficient for them?  This would be very good news for the BTC price.  Thoughts?

Chinese buying bitcoins, their numbers are large which may bring an increase and huge demands on bitcoin. Given the supply of bitcoin at this moment if the consumers were actively demanding for bitcoins it is likely that the price will go up and many will enjoy. It is one of the most awaited event in bitcoin its increase in price. Chinas passion to bitcoin will help on the increase of its market value which is positive.

I agree, if the price is really making a real demand continuously then we shouldn't see a big dump on the coin, we should only see a slow price increase on it. I really think that the price on the bitcoin is being manipulated by chinese considering the news that I've been reading that more and more chinese are adopting to bitcoin to make a good profit.
Not for long my friend, not chinese people are the major holders of bitcoins, they can move the price but not that much, if you look at the price now, it is starting to move to $700 again and we could easily see that in the next few days.
If chinese are not the most holder that hold bitcoin then who? I see on the market cap. that chinese is the one who hold most of the  coin followed by US.
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July 07, 2016, 08:54:40 AM
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So with China devaluing currency and the Chinese citizens looking to get their money out of Yuan, do you think buying BTC will be one of their means for doing so?  I dont know much about the capital controls, but if the citizens cant easily take their Yuan and buy other currencies maybe buying BTC will be easier and more efficient for them?  This would be very good news for the BTC price.  Thoughts?

Chinese buying bitcoins, their numbers are large which may bring an increase and huge demands on bitcoin. Given the supply of bitcoin at this moment if the consumers were actively demanding for bitcoins it is likely that the price will go up and many will enjoy. It is one of the most awaited event in bitcoin its increase in price. Chinas passion to bitcoin will help on the increase of its market value which is positive.

I agree, if the price is really making a real demand continuously then we shouldn't see a big dump on the coin, we should only see a slow price increase on it. I really think that the price on the bitcoin is being manipulated by chinese considering the news that I've been reading that more and more chinese are adopting to bitcoin to make a good profit.
Not for long my friend, not chinese people are the major holders of bitcoins, they can move the price but not that much, if you look at the price now, it is starting to move to $700 again and we could easily see that in the next few days.
If chinese are not the most holder that hold bitcoin then who? I see on the market cap. that chinese is the one who hold most of the  coin followed by US.

Most of the bitcoin service providers are in the west. The Chinese are just employed as miners to secure the network.

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July 08, 2016, 03:05:54 AM
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So with China devaluing currency and the Chinese citizens looking to get their money out of Yuan, do you think buying BTC will be one of their means for doing so?  I dont know much about the capital controls, but if the citizens cant easily take their Yuan and buy other currencies maybe buying BTC will be easier and more efficient for them?  This would be very good news for the BTC price.  Thoughts?

Chinese buying bitcoins, their numbers are large which may bring an increase and huge demands on bitcoin. Given the supply of bitcoin at this moment if the consumers were actively demanding for bitcoins it is likely that the price will go up and many will enjoy. It is one of the most awaited event in bitcoin its increase in price. Chinas passion to bitcoin will help on the increase of its market value which is positive.

I agree, if the price is really making a real demand continuously then we shouldn't see a big dump on the coin, we should only see a slow price increase on it. I really think that the price on the bitcoin is being manipulated by chinese considering the news that I've been reading that more and more chinese are adopting to bitcoin to make a good profit.
Not for long my friend, not chinese people are the major holders of bitcoins, they can move the price but not that much, if you look at the price now, it is starting to move to $700 again and we could easily see that in the next few days.
If chinese are not the most holder that hold bitcoin then who? I see on the market cap. that chinese is the one who hold most of the  coin followed by US.

Most of the bitcoin service providers are in the west. The Chinese are just employed as miners to secure the network.
I believe it too, the chinese people will not control the majority and even if they do they cannot unite because they have a different interest so they cannot control the market.

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July 08, 2016, 06:56:32 AM
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So with China devaluing currency and the Chinese citizens looking to get their money out of Yuan, do you think buying BTC will be one of their means for doing so?  I dont know much about the capital controls, but if the citizens cant easily take their Yuan and buy other currencies maybe buying BTC will be easier and more efficient for them?  This would be very good news for the BTC price.  Thoughts?

Chinese buying bitcoins, their numbers are large which may bring an increase and huge demands on bitcoin. Given the supply of bitcoin at this moment if the consumers were actively demanding for bitcoins it is likely that the price will go up and many will enjoy. It is one of the most awaited event in bitcoin its increase in price. Chinas passion to bitcoin will help on the increase of its market value which is positive.

I agree, if the price is really making a real demand continuously then we shouldn't see a big dump on the coin, we should only see a slow price increase on it. I really think that the price on the bitcoin is being manipulated by chinese considering the news that I've been reading that more and more chinese are adopting to bitcoin to make a good profit.
Not for long my friend, not chinese people are the major holders of bitcoins, they can move the price but not that much, if you look at the price now, it is starting to move to $700 again and we could easily see that in the next few days.
If chinese are not the most holder that hold bitcoin then who? I see on the market cap. that chinese is the one who hold most of the  coin followed by US.

Most of the bitcoin service providers are in the west. The Chinese are just employed as miners to secure the network.
I believe it too, the chinese people will not control the majority and even if they do they cannot unite because they have a different interest so they cannot control the market.
Lol what? Most chinese investors moved to bitcoin and most of their money has been converted to bitcoin. Isn't that a unity for them? And they plan to pump the coin too to make a better profit once they sell their coins.
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July 08, 2016, 07:54:59 AM
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Most of bitcoin transactions carried out in the past through the state currency Yuan over the past 30 days in China.
In total, 71% of operations were carried out at some points it cryptocurrency in the state. And of course, the famous Chinese statistics on their territory shows that the majority of transactions throughout China have been conducted in yuan


Effect of China on Bitcoin prices should not be underestimated. China is home to some of the largest bitcoin exchanges on the planet.
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July 08, 2016, 08:18:02 AM
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Most of bitcoin transactions carried out in the past through the state currency Yuan over the past 30 days in China.
In total, 71% of operations were carried out at some points it cryptocurrency in the state. And of course, the famous Chinese statistics on their territory shows that the majority of transactions throughout China have been conducted in yuan


Effect of China on Bitcoin prices should not be underestimated. China is home to some of the largest bitcoin exchanges on the planet.
Most everything that happens nowadays seem to involve China, not just bitcoin. There are territorial disputes, the economy, our mobile phones, the food we eat, the list goes on. This powerhouse nation has brought a lot of good things and along with it the problems and enemies that resulted in them dabbling in everything they think is worth their time.
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July 08, 2016, 09:46:18 AM
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So with China devaluing currency and the Chinese citizens looking to get their money out of Yuan, do you think buying BTC will be one of their means for doing so?  I dont know much about the capital controls, but if the citizens cant easily take their Yuan and buy other currencies maybe buying BTC will be easier and more efficient for them?  This would be very good news for the BTC price.  Thoughts?

Chinese buying bitcoins, their numbers are large which may bring an increase and huge demands on bitcoin. Given the supply of bitcoin at this moment if the consumers were actively demanding for bitcoins it is likely that the price will go up and many will enjoy. It is one of the most awaited event in bitcoin its increase in price. Chinas passion to bitcoin will help on the increase of its market value which is positive.

I agree, if the price is really making a real demand continuously then we shouldn't see a big dump on the coin, we should only see a slow price increase on it. I really think that the price on the bitcoin is being manipulated by chinese considering the news that I've been reading that more and more chinese are adopting to bitcoin to make a good profit.
Not for long my friend, not chinese people are the major holders of bitcoins, they can move the price but not that much, if you look at the price now, it is starting to move to $700 again and we could easily see that in the next few days.
If chinese are not the most holder that hold bitcoin then who? I see on the market cap. that chinese is the one who hold most of the  coin followed by US.

Most of the bitcoin service providers are in the west. The Chinese are just employed as miners to secure the network.
I believe it too, the chinese people will not control the majority and even if they do they cannot unite because they have a different interest so they cannot control the market.
Lol what? Most chinese investors moved to bitcoin and most of their money has been converted to bitcoin. Isn't that a unity for them? And they plan to pump the coin too to make a better profit once they sell their coins.
It would be bold to imagine that people are massively buying out Bitcoin blindly, ignoring the risks, just like that. So, again, there is no rational argument here supporting that Yuan devaluations are driving up the bitcoin price.
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July 09, 2016, 07:06:53 AM
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It would be bold to imagine that people are massively buying out Bitcoin blindly, ignoring the risks, just like that. So, again, there is no rational argument here supporting that Yuan devaluations are driving up the bitcoin price.

That is right. The hack of the Ethereum DAO give us a good lesson. If there is a big bug found in the bitcoin, it will be disastrous.

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July 09, 2016, 12:31:59 PM
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So with China devaluing currency and the Chinese citizens looking to get their money out of Yuan, do you think buying BTC will be one of their means for doing so?  I dont know much about the capital controls, but if the citizens cant easily take their Yuan and buy other currencies maybe buying BTC will be easier and more efficient for them?  This would be very good news for the BTC price.  Thoughts?

My thoughts on China buying large volume of bitcoin can bring positive effects to consumers. In terms of price inflation we can expect that to happen if Chinese people will going to use bitcoin as an exchange. Given the population of the biggest country in the world their activity will bring higher demands and as we all know since bitcoins supply is limited this huge demand can bring about a tremendous price increase. For us it will be advantageous so its time to save some bitcoins in our wallet for an expected price increase.
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July 09, 2016, 01:12:52 PM
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i dont actually get why about 40% of bitcoin is mined in China ( maybe im wrong but someone's here said like this i think ),
i know the china is pretty greedy for earnings ( hehe as we all ) but why china especially,not let's say USA?
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July 11, 2016, 06:47:57 AM
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i dont actually get why about 40% of bitcoin is mined in China ( maybe im wrong but someone's here said like this i think ),
i know the china is pretty greedy for earnings ( hehe as we all ) but why china especially,not let's say USA?

The USA people are not interested in the development of the bitcoin miners. They might think the bitcoin is useless.

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July 13, 2016, 11:54:01 AM
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i dont actually get why about 40% of bitcoin is mined in China ( maybe im wrong but someone's here said like this i think ),
i know the china is pretty greedy for earnings ( hehe as we all ) but why china especially,not let's say USA?
Because china has the money to buy rigs for mining and they are the early adopters that use to profit in mining so they just continued it even mining is no longer profitable.
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i dont actually get why about 40% of bitcoin is mined in China ( maybe im wrong but someone's here said like this i think ),
i know the china is pretty greedy for earnings ( hehe as we all ) but why china especially,not let's say USA?
Knowing what were the prices of electricity in Eastern Europe under socialism and what now they are,  We can assume that overhead costs there are considerably smaller.

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